Which makes you rage hardest in-game?

tinythinker · January 2018

phairdon wrote: »

Reading discussions about limiting group sizes in Cyrodiil to 6 or 8 or 10, or pretty much turn Cyrodiil into small scale pvp.

In game. Mounts coming to a complete stand still when riding over a tiny pebble on a road somewhere.
The horrible jumping mechanics.

The mounts still do that? Haven't had that happen since they patched it a year or two ago, my mounts usually even roll over fences now. Sorry to hear it isn't totally fixed.

phairdon · January 2018

tinythinker wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

Reading discussions about limiting group sizes in Cyrodiil to 6 or 8 or 10, or pretty much turn Cyrodiil into small scale pvp.

In game. Mounts coming to a complete stand still when riding over a tiny pebble on a road somewhere.
The horrible jumping mechanics.

The mounts still do that? Haven't had that happen since they patched it a year or two ago, my mounts usually even roll over fences now. Sorry to hear it isn't totally fixed.

Yes. Mounts still do that.

tinythinker · January 2018

Waffennacht wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

I don't see how getting hit outside of a red circle wouldn't make any upset

This was a problem at PC launch but they worked to fix it. I hadn't heard that the issue is back outside of lag. Are you on PC or Console? Anyway, yeah, that sucks. Had the same problem in another MMORPG until I learned that there was an intentional partial disconnect between in the telegraph and the effect, so you had to learn to adjust your timing.

Xbox, seems every update it appears for a bit

Ah, OK, yeah, haven't played on consoles. I am kind of curious how the game feels on them, but I don't own one

Vaoh · January 2018

I don’t. It has always confused me why people get so frustrated when playing games though. If you’re not having fun, why are you even playing....

getemshauna · January 2018

When I got killed in Imperial City prison having 10k+ telvar stones.

tinythinker · January 2018

Vaoh wrote: »

I don’t. It has always confused me why people get so frustrated when playing games though. If you’re not having fun, why are you even playing....

People enjoy things in different ways. Some examples of why people rage:

1. easily irritable (personality, blood sugar, displacement of stress, etc.)
2. immaturity (haven't learned skills and acquired perspective necessary to deal with disappointment)
3. competitive (they really get into something and this is reflected in various forms of strong emotional response)

So, for example, you may love the game and enjoy it but are having a bad day (#1), or still haven't grown up (#2), or are just really "into it" and may be cheering one minutes and yelling "Noooooo!" the next (#3).

Not everyone will respond in these ways, but some people do.

tinythinker · January 2018

gethemshauna wrote: »

When I got killed in Imperial City prison having 10k+ telvar stones.

Yeah, been there. I didn't have a recall stone on me and I'm bad at 1v1

Tandor · January 2018

tinythinker wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

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tinythinker wrote: »

fgoron2000 wrote: »

it may not be in-game, but polls on this forum that so frequently omit having an "Other" option...and I may not rage about it, but it certainly is an annoyance for those of us who participate in the forum here

I often do, but sometimes I'm trying to get people to commit to one of the specific options.

Whilst denying them the opportunity to put forward some other problem, or none.

If you're so confident that people are raging over the issues that you're raising, why deny them the opportunity to say otherwise? A biased poll is a biased poll, whichever way you look at it, and the reason that frustrates players is because it means that the devs need take no notice of the valid concerns it could have raised, they can just dismiss it out of hand because of the obvious bias.

People are already putting additional things in posts, which are being acknowledged.

But let me ask you something:

What is your purpose in this thread? You claim in a thread about what people rage over that the game is fine and you never rage (not raging is perfectly fine) and imply people who get upset playing a game are throwing a tantrum (which is insulting), and now you are being confrontational over the options in the poll for a thread about something you disagree with.

I mean, are you just here to argue? I'm not interested in that.

This thread lets people admit that they get upset sometimes and give a reason why without focusing on a particular issue, hence helping it from breaking down into a bitter fight over a single topic which is the usual MO. I also have a thread about what compliments people have been giving/would like to give the game as well for those who don't like this one

I'm not here to argue at all, you're the one arguing with my original comment. I'm simply pointing out that if you give people a fixed option to say they're raging about one of a few specific things and no other options then the result is meaningless to the devs. If you give them the additional option to vote for some other problem or to say that they have no problems and most players still vote for the same problem then the devs can pick up on that.

You say some people get upset (I agree) and that this poll enables people to "give a reason why without focusing on a particular issue" but that is precisely my point - it doesn't, it requires them to focus on one of the particular issues that you have selected.

No, not doing this dance. The poll is what it is, people are still posting additional things. Thanks for your input.

That's fine, like I said I'm not here to argue.

May I respectfully suggest then that when the discussion looks like it has run its course, you add a final post (or preferably an amendment to your opening one if that option is still open to you) collating the other concerns people have raised. That way the devs can pick up on the dominant issues without having to read through the whole thread.

menedhyn · January 2018

Honestly? Nothing. The occasional latency spikes and disconnects can be mildly irritating I guess. I'm a laid back gamer.

I save my raging and anger for things that matter

tinythinker · January 2018

Tandor wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

fgoron2000 wrote: »

it may not be in-game, but polls on this forum that so frequently omit having an "Other" option...and I may not rage about it, but it certainly is an annoyance for those of us who participate in the forum here

I often do, but sometimes I'm trying to get people to commit to one of the specific options.

Whilst denying them the opportunity to put forward some other problem, or none.

If you're so confident that people are raging over the issues that you're raising, why deny them the opportunity to say otherwise? A biased poll is a biased poll, whichever way you look at it, and the reason that frustrates players is because it means that the devs need take no notice of the valid concerns it could have raised, they can just dismiss it out of hand because of the obvious bias.

People are already putting additional things in posts, which are being acknowledged.

But let me ask you something:

What is your purpose in this thread? You claim in a thread about what people rage over that the game is fine and you never rage (not raging is perfectly fine) and imply people who get upset playing a game are throwing a tantrum (which is insulting), and now you are being confrontational over the options in the poll for a thread about something you disagree with.

I mean, are you just here to argue? I'm not interested in that.

This thread lets people admit that they get upset sometimes and give a reason why without focusing on a particular issue, hence helping it from breaking down into a bitter fight over a single topic which is the usual MO. I also have a thread about what compliments people have been giving/would like to give the game as well for those who don't like this one

I'm not here to argue at all, you're the one arguing with my original comment. I'm simply pointing out that if you give people a fixed option to say they're raging about one of a few specific things and no other options then the result is meaningless to the devs. If you give them the additional option to vote for some other problem or to say that they have no problems and most players still vote for the same problem then the devs can pick up on that.

You say some people get upset (I agree) and that this poll enables people to "give a reason why without focusing on a particular issue" but that is precisely my point - it doesn't, it requires them to focus on one of the particular issues that you have selected.

No, not doing this dance. The poll is what it is, people are still posting additional things. Thanks for your input.

That's fine, like I said I'm not here to argue.

May I respectfully suggest then that when the discussion looks like it has run its course, you add a final post (or preferably an amendment to your opening one if that option is still open to you) collating the other concerns people have raised. That way the devs can pick up on the dominant issues without having to read through the whole thread.

Sure. I wasn't planning for/intending to facilitate data collection, just trying to give a fun outlet that didn't devolve into "This sucks!"/"No it doesn't"/"YOU suck!"/"No YOU"

(And the reason I asked if you were looking to argue wasn't intended as an accusation, but I've been on various forums for many years and I try to avoid getting into needless bickering.)

tinythinker · January 2018

phairdon wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

Reading discussions about limiting group sizes in Cyrodiil to 6 or 8 or 10, or pretty much turn Cyrodiil into small scale pvp.

In game. Mounts coming to a complete stand still when riding over a tiny pebble on a road somewhere.
The horrible jumping mechanics.

The mounts still do that? Haven't had that happen since they patched it a year or two ago, my mounts usually even roll over fences now. Sorry to hear it isn't totally fixed.

Yes. Mounts still do that.

PC or console?

phairdon · January 2018

tinythinker wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

Reading discussions about limiting group sizes in Cyrodiil to 6 or 8 or 10, or pretty much turn Cyrodiil into small scale pvp.

In game. Mounts coming to a complete stand still when riding over a tiny pebble on a road somewhere.
The horrible jumping mechanics.

The mounts still do that? Haven't had that happen since they patched it a year or two ago, my mounts usually even roll over fences now. Sorry to hear it isn't totally fixed.

Yes. Mounts still do that.

PC or console?

PC.

Vaoh · January 2018

tinythinker wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

I don’t. It has always confused me why people get so frustrated when playing games though. If you’re not having fun, why are you even playing....

People enjoy things in different ways. Some examples of why people rage:

1. easily irritable (personality, blood sugar, displacement of stress, etc.)
2. immaturity (haven't learned skills and acquired perspective necessary to deal with disappointment)
3. competitive (they really get into something and this is reflected in various forms of strong emotional response)

So, for example, you may love the game and enjoy it but are having a bad day (#1), or still haven't grown up (#2), or are just really "into it" and may be cheering one minutes and yelling "Noooooo!" the next (#3).

Not everyone will respond in these ways, but some people do.

Yeah true.

For me personally though, even if I’m doing something very competitive and lose (wiping at 1% last boss vHoF HM in Morrowind -_-) or get rekt in PvP because I Streaked into a load screen, I never get angry.

Back when I played CoD (I was that guy winning every game easily in free-for-all lol) I would always hear people rage over their mics. When I did fail to place #1 or lost games it never bothered me at all.

You’re absolutely right that people handle this stuff differently. If I ever raged hard at a game I’d question why I was playing at all.

tinythinker · January 2018

Vaoh wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

I don’t. It has always confused me why people get so frustrated when playing games though. If you’re not having fun, why are you even playing....

People enjoy things in different ways. Some examples of why people rage:

1. easily irritable (personality, blood sugar, displacement of stress, etc.)
2. immaturity (haven't learned skills and acquired perspective necessary to deal with disappointment)
3. competitive (they really get into something and this is reflected in various forms of strong emotional response)

So, for example, you may love the game and enjoy it but are having a bad day (#1), or still haven't grown up (#2), or are just really "into it" and may be cheering one minutes and yelling "Noooooo!" the next (#3).

Not everyone will respond in these ways, but some people do.

Yeah true.

For me personally though, even if I’m doing something very competitive and lose (wiping at 1% last boss vHoF HM in Morrowind -_-) or get rekt in PvP because I Streaked into a load screen, I never get angry.

Back when I played CoD (I was that guy winning every game easily in free-for-all lol) I would always hear people rage over their mics. When I did fail to place #1 or lost games it never bothered me at all.

You’re absolutely right that people handle this stuff differently. If I ever raged hard at a game I’d question why I was playing at all.

For some people it's kind of fans of competitive teams who BOOOOOOOO!!! and CHEEEEEER!!! during a game, but as long as people don't get abusive, I don't really care if they rage or not. I don't rage much myself, but I do let a few curses fly now and then, unless I've got a mic on (and I rarely ever have a mic on). Ironically, I know of some streamers who get lots of viewers waiting for them to rage a little now and again.

Aliyavana · January 2018

node stealers

KramUzibra · January 2018

Perma block builds

Mettaricana · January 2018

Last night me and wife had a pug group for vet cradle we cleared kelphiden but once we got to dranos we realized these lvl 690 players dont know wth bashing is and no matter how much we told them to do it they couldn't put together a braincell between them to bash the shadows at all... 20 wipes later we bailed waste of repair kits

Aurielle · January 2018

Bow light attack/snipe spammers will be the eventual cause of my inevitable hypertension. I've lost track of the number of times I've had to do most of the DPS (and sometimes most of the tanking!) in normal dungeons while trying to get better at healing on my Warden.

No amount of patient explanation helps these players. I don't even care that they don't have Caltrops -- FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, USE ENDLESS HAIL OR SOMETHING.

Nightfall12 · January 2018

When you wait in a queue, either PvP or Dungeon Finder for 30+ minutes and then get DC'ed within minutes. Like when my power flickers out and the computer turns off for like 3 seconds…So angry when that happens, or the fire alarm goes off in the building you have have to evacuate.

tinythinker · January 2018

Mettaricana wrote: »

Last night me and wife had a pug group for vet cradle we cleared kelphiden but once we got to dranos we realized these lvl 690 players dont know wth bashing is and no matter how much we told them to do it they couldn't put together a braincell between them to bash the shadows at all... 20 wipes later we bailed waste of repair kits

I've been there. Not sure the issue was because of (insufficient/defective) brain cells but it was reeeeally frustrating. Then again, I'm sure I've been on the other side of that kind of situation.

tinythinker · January 2018

Aurielle wrote: »

Bow light attack/snipe spammers will be the eventual cause of my inevitable hypertension. I've lost track of the number of times I've had to do most of the DPS (and sometimes most of the tanking!) in normal dungeons while trying to get better at healing on my Warden. No amount of patient explanation helps these players. I don't even care that they don't have Caltrops -- FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, USE ENDLESS HAIL OR SOMETHING.

It'll be OK... but if not, metoprolol works pretty well.

DeadlyRecluse · January 2018

No option for earthgore means no vote from me : P

disintegr8 · January 2018

People who use group/dungeon finder for normal dungeons but once they get a dungeon/group, they run the dungeon as an individual.

I don't give a fat rats who you are, how many CP you have or how good you (think you) are - of you are not prepared to progress with the group, do your specific role, or intend to charge into fights ahead of the group, stay the heck away from group/dungeon finder.

cool_frood88 · January 2018

Dying for the umpteenth time when trying to kill a boss, requesting help from the zone and receiving none, then to have someone come in and kill the boss when I'm "regenerating" so I can't help!

Also frustrating (but not raging) is the chat vocab. Is there a dictionary somewhere I can look what all the acronyms and codes mean?! It baffles me sometimes what the zone chat is about...

Shimmer · January 2018

VMA

tinythinker · January 2018

transGemini wrote: »

Dying for the umpteenth time when trying to kill a boss, requesting help from the zone and receiving none, then to have someone come in and kill the boss when I'm "regenerating" so I can't help!

Also frustrating (but not raging) is the chat vocab. Is there a dictionary somewhere I can look what all the acronyms and codes mean?! It baffles me sometimes what the zone chat is about...

Was very confusing for me as well when I started ESO (my first real attempt at an MMORPG).

This might help some:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136290/the-eso-slang-and-abbreviation-dictionary/p1

cool_frood88 · January 2018

tinythinker wrote: »

transGemini wrote: »

Dying for the umpteenth time when trying to kill a boss, requesting help from the zone and receiving none, then to have someone come in and kill the boss when I'm "regenerating" so I can't help!

Also frustrating (but not raging) is the chat vocab. Is there a dictionary somewhere I can look what all the acronyms and codes mean?! It baffles me sometimes what the zone chat is about...

Was very confusing for me as well when I started ESO (my first real attempt at an MMORPG).

This might help some:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136290/the-eso-slang-and-abbreviation-dictionary/p1

Thank you so much!

Aurielle · January 2018

disintegr8 wrote: »

People who use group/dungeon finder for normal dungeons but once they get a dungeon/group, they run the dungeon as an individual.

I don't give a fat rats who you are, how many CP you have or how good you (think you) are - of you are not prepared to progress with the group, do your specific role, or intend to charge into fights ahead of the group, stay the heck away from group/dungeon finder.

Did I group with you earlier?

Someone raged at me today for doing normal Crypt of Hearts 1 (aka one of the easiest faceroll normal dungeons in this game outside of FG1/BC1) too quickly. I found it utterly hilarious, as I didn't skip any bosses, didn't do any big trash pulls, everyone was there for boss kills, etc. I didn't wait for the tank to start boss fights because I soloed normal CoH1 for Ebon gear on my DD characters until my eyes practically bled and knew my chances of dying were nil. The person who raged didn't say they were doing the quest (but even if they were, we did everything we needed to do for the quest, so...). Seriously, if you're learning a new role in a normal dungeon or doing the quest, the onus is on you to make that clear from the outset, because I'm not going to light attack my way through a normal dungeon. And if you're not learning a new role or doing the quest, why on earth do you care if the dungeon is completed quickly and with no deaths? If I could solo normal dungeons without queuing and still get the daily XP bonus, I would.

phileunderx2 · January 2018

Not being able to break free when you get cced by a clanifear. Even if I have plenty of stamina.

tinythinker · January 2018

transGemini wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

transGemini wrote: »

Dying for the umpteenth time when trying to kill a boss, requesting help from the zone and receiving none, then to have someone come in and kill the boss when I'm "regenerating" so I can't help!

Also frustrating (but not raging) is the chat vocab. Is there a dictionary somewhere I can look what all the acronyms and codes mean?! It baffles me sometimes what the zone chat is about...

Was very confusing for me as well when I started ESO (my first real attempt at an MMORPG).

This might help some:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136290/the-eso-slang-and-abbreviation-dictionary/p1

Thank you so much!

It's a little old but still useful, @transGemini VR/Veteran Rank is gone, replaced by CP/Champion Points (how many CP a character has, which you earn at level 50).

Also, people aren't hybrids as often now, so, you will see terms specifying build type such as:

StamDK=Stamina Dragonknight
Stamplar=Stamina Templar
Stamsorc=Stamina Sorcerer
Stamblade=Stamina Nightblade
Stamward=Stamina Warden

MagDK=Magicka Dragonknight
Magplar=Magicka Templar
Magsorc=Magicka Sorcerer
Magblade=Magicka Nightblade
Magward=Magicka Warden