LiquidPony wrote: »

The simpler explanation is that there are just a lot of players out there who are better than me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbEtN24VS4E

Fine. I will admit it. These guys are a lot better than me. Someone teach me a MagDK build that can counter that so I can get gud.

P.S. For anyone that wants to make a "that was just one time on PC and ZOS fixed it argument" I have plenty more recent clips - even on console. Just to lazy too edit out the names but if you want them, PM me.

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

The simpler explanation is that there are just a lot of players out there who are better than me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbEtN24VS4E

Fine. I will admit it. These guys are a lot better than me. Someone teach me a MagDK build that can counter that so I can get gud.

P.S. For anyone that wants to make a "that was just one time on PC and ZOS fixed it argument" I have plenty more recent clips - even on console. Just to lazy to edit out the names but if you want them, PM me.

19 months ago on PC.

I don't buy the PS4 Cheat Engine explanation for one second, not without evidence.

If you've got evidence then post it.

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

The simpler explanation is that there are just a lot of players out there who are better than me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbEtN24VS4E

Fine. I will admit it. These guys are a lot better than me. Someone teach me a MagDK build that can counter that so I can get gud.

P.S. For anyone that wants to make a "that was just one time on PC and ZOS fixed it argument" I have plenty more recent clips - even on console. Just to lazy to edit out the names but if you want them, PM me.

19 months ago on PC.

I don't buy the PS4 Cheat Engine explanation for one second, not without evidence.

If you've got evidence then post it.

Sure. So ZOS can use that as an excuse to lock the thread because it contains names? Remember this is the company that un-banned 40 of the 42 "permanent bans" for confirmed cheat engine users in the aftermath of that event. They have a demonstrated a vested interest in sweeping this under the rug and will use any excuse to do so. PM me if you really care about this issue and aren't just sticking your head in the sand because you would rather live in a world where console cheating doesn't exist and everyone who beats you is just better.

Why should we have to PM you to share this info? If you have proof of this post here and now. Seems like you're the one sweeping it under the rug.

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

The simpler explanation is that there are just a lot of players out there who are better than me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbEtN24VS4E

Fine. I will admit it. These guys are a lot better than me. Someone teach me a MagDK build that can counter that so I can get gud.

P.S. For anyone that wants to make a "that was just one time on PC and ZOS fixed it argument" I have plenty more recent clips - even on console. Just to lazy to edit out the names but if you want them, PM me.

19 months ago on PC.

I don't buy the PS4 Cheat Engine explanation for one second, not without evidence.

If you've got evidence then post it.

Sure. So ZOS can use that as an excuse to lock the thread because it contains names? Remember this is the company that un-banned 40 of the 42 "permanent bans" for confirmed cheat engine users in the aftermath of that event. They have a demonstrated a vested interest in sweeping this under the rug and will use any excuse to do so. PM me if you really care about this issue and aren't just sticking your head in the sand because you would rather live in a world where console cheating doesn't exist and everyone who beats you is just better.

Why should we have to PM you to share this info? If you have proof of this post here and now. Seems like you're the one sweeping it under the rug.

Read the TOS of the forum you are posting on. Look at the history of closed threads on these forums when they start talking about specific instances of cheating. Posting any video footage without names completely blocked out gets "interpreted" as naming and shaming, which is against the forum TOS and usually gets the post locked or flat out deleted. Lol there was a time where you couldn't even say "blinxey" without getting your thread nerfed but it seems ok now since its ancient history.

I'm not asking for a video I'm merely asking for a plausible theory as to how it's even possible to use something like cheat engine on a ps4 or Xbox. That's it. Becuase I can't even come up with a half-baked explanation as to how that'd be possible.

drkfrontiers wrote: »

As a new player, this thread really turns me off trying out PvP.

In 25 years of gaming, its always the same storyline. Pvpers are their own worst enemy, and kill their own game.

Please don't let this thread turn you off of PvP. I've never encountered anything like what people are claiming in this thread. Seems like a bunch of crack-pot conspiracy theories. I think everyone needs to take the tinfoil hats off.

Waffennacht wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

The simpler explanation is that there are just a lot of players out there who are better than me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbEtN24VS4E

Fine. I will admit it. These guys are a lot better than me. Someone teach me a MagDK build that can counter that so I can get gud.

P.S. For anyone that wants to make a "that was just one time on PC and ZOS fixed it argument" I have plenty more recent clips - even on console. Just to lazy to edit out the names but if you want them, PM me.

19 months ago on PC.

I don't buy the PS4 Cheat Engine explanation for one second, not without evidence.

If you've got evidence then post it.

Sure. So ZOS can use that as an excuse to lock the thread because it contains names? Remember this is the company that un-banned 40 of the 42 "permanent bans" for confirmed cheat engine users in the aftermath of that event. They have a demonstrated a vested interest in sweeping this under the rug and will use any excuse to do so. PM me if you really care about this issue and aren't just sticking your head in the sand because you would rather live in a world where console cheating doesn't exist and everyone who beats you is just better.

Why should we have to PM you to share this info? If you have proof of this post here and now. Seems like you're the one sweeping it under the rug.

Read the TOS of the forum you are posting on. Look at the history of closed threads on these forums when they start talking about specific instances of cheating. Posting any video footage without names completely blocked out gets "interpreted" as naming and shaming, which is against the forum TOS and usually gets the post locked or flat out deleted. Lol there was a time where you couldn't even say "blinxey" without getting your thread nerfed but it seems ok now since its ancient history.

I'm not asking for a video I'm merely asking for a plausible theory as to how it's even possible to use something like cheat engine on a ps4 or Xbox. That's it. Becuase I can't even come up with a half-baked explanation as to how that'd be possible.

IDK if its cheat engine or not. The exact methodology is unclear to me and I never stated otherwise. All I know is that there is recorded evidence of cheating/exploiting on consoles. Whether they found some way to bug something out or they are actually modifying their system, who knows? We go through this same song and dance every time we see something suspicious. Maybe its a bug, maybe its a gear set, maybe its Maybeline, who knows?

How cheat programs work on console is you connect your console to a computer, the computer then adjusts values in the game that is being hacked. This works because the computer modifies what's going on in the console.

This was being done originally when a lot of calculations we're being done console side - not server side.

To combat this they made calculations be server side. Why we got so much lag etc.

I have not heard of console cheat programs functioning ever since that change.

- now what ever information is provided by the Xbox to server can be modified - this is where I can see current cheat programs working.

This would mean adjusted stats as the gear selection etc is prob console side. This would allow for a little play in stats, this however, would not result in one player being a "God"

Even if this kind of program was working, I would say 10 pro PvP players would still take him out.

Either way, I doubt we will see unlimited meteors again

@Waffennacht Yeah? You really believe that? Tell you what. Slide me your PSN or Skype via PM, and I’ll show you just how deep the rabbit hole goes. After what I’ve seen for myself in the past few hours, I definitely can say without a doubt that anyone who denies CE existing on PS4 is a complete fool. A complete fool up and down.

You all really believe that consoles can’t be modified, and or have certain scripts ran on them eh? As @Yolokin_Swagonborn has stated, the only reason why I haven’t posted documented proof of any of this is due to the fact that I will most likely get permanently banned from these forums (I have no more warnings or chances to screw up here), and this thread would end up locked and or nuked. Only to be swept under the rug like the vast majority of exploiting threads, or anything remotely naming and shaming.

Let me ask you all a serious question. Why is it that when things involve consoles, people claim that such and such things don’t exist? Only until of course things can no longer be contained, and become a widespread problem that picks up traction on media outlets (e.g. IGN, Kotaku, Giant Bomb, etc.). This happened in GTA5. People swore out that cheat menues didn’t exist, and there was no such a thing as “modded accounts”. Then of course what happened happened, and R* ended having to do a money sweep of every single account on GTA:O (regardless of the platform). And even now, modding is extremely prevalent on console. People swore out how people weren’t cheating, and using keyboard and mouse on Overwatch. Claimed it wasn’t just people naturally better than others. Until Blizzard could no longer sweep it under the rug, and officially spoke out against console players using adapters such as XIM to keyboard and mouse peripherals. Warning said players to cease it immediately, and supposedly lobbying against it within their game. Why? Because of the ridiculous edge on anyone with a controller these players were having, and the unnatural accuracy some of these players were having. Even on the same topic of Blizzard, the entire Diablo 3 incident, and how modded items and gear completely ruined the game for years. On both PS3 and PS4 systems by the way. People again claimed it didn’t exist, until those “Professional Russian Swords” and “Professional Russian Crossbows” started appearing everywhere. And ridiculously high-leveled gems. And gear with 3 sockets on every piece became apparent.

So why is this? Why don’t you all take heed when things are in the beginning phases? Why don’t you ever heed these warnings and cries out of something wrong? Why is it always a “not on console it doesn’t exist”, until things get way too problematic and serious to be contained anymore? Why do you all do this, my fellow gaming brothers and sisters? I may prefer my gaming experiences to be on console, but this is 1 trait about us console gamers that will forever be something that irks the **** out of me.

Edit: I’m logging out of these forums for the weekend, and possibly next week too. I need a serious break from this community for a little while.

- Five 7th Legion
- Five WW hide
- 2 BS
- Asylum 2h
- Lingering health pots
- 4 sturdy
- 72 cp into block cost reduction
- Forward momentum

I do like how you noted it was a dk... as if stam dk is over performing when thats not the case at all. Stam dk on its own is definitely not in a good spot currently unless you want to tank. The build can work on any class and its very common on console. The counters are dots, bleeds, ground AOEs, penetration, and any ability such as curse that can't be blocked. The fact 10 people died to this build is astonishing and only proves your lack of knowledge on how to go on defense. The build is definitely over-performing but don't pretend the dk is the only one capable of running it. Moreover, 10 people couldn't heal through the damage put out by SnB and 2h? I hope the man was also specced to reduce healing, otherwise you have a lot to learn. I also hope he wasn't using dizzy swing because thats the easiest ability to counter in the game.

Y’all some salty plebs if you think people are cheating on console.

To alter ANYTHING on a ps4 you have to jailbreak it, which is something that is only done by master coders in Russia or India.

Any jail broken ps4 has been known to be bricked by Sony within a couple weeks.

If you are so sure someone is cheating, report it to Sony; it will be dealt with and y’all can stop QQ’ing.

Why don’t you ever heed these warnings and cries out of something wrong?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

umagon wrote: »

I can’t link the video because of forum rules but google search “Researcher Cracks Elder Scrolls Online” and watch the youtube video. Cheating exists in eso, not every case of suspicious behavior is cheating but it does exist. Other times it can be just Wrobel Mechanics™.

The video is only about pc, has been patched, and the only exploit was for guild trader bidding. So again nobody can provide evidence on something that doesn't exist on ps4. Unless you can somehow link a guild trader bid exploit to someone doing a 1v10 as cheating??? Ummmm no!