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Finally Encountered the Infamous Build
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I bet this was on PS4 Vivec. The cesspool of shady garbage.
It was indeed, PS4-NA in Vivec. I’ve been talking it over with a few PvP guildies on Skype, and supposedly the players in DC on PS4-NA have a huge reputation for dishonest play (exploiting, buying from bots, buying from gold sellers, and account sharing, etc.). And this particular player had been banned in the past for AP exploitation (back when ZOS did the ban wave regarding the double AP event). Sooo, I’m not too sure now if we were mopped up legit. Or, if it was in fact something else at play here.
This was the main reason I left Vivec. I saw too much like this example that didn’t add up quite right.
I suppose it could be some bugged out armor setup, but I’ll say this. When ten solid players are beating on me plus resource poisions, it’s going to be a quick ending.
Same here. And I PvP on a DK as well (MagDK). I look at these players sometimes who can have 28k-30k health, have over 2.3k resource regeneration, manage to hit over 3k SD or WD, and it blows my mind. It really does. Because as I mentioned previously, usually there is a trade off that must occur.
For example, on my MagDK I run: 5pcs. Alteration Mastery, 5pcs. Seducer (all heavy), 2pcs. Grothdarr (in medium and light, but sometimes Blood Spawn), and a Lightning Staff on my back bar (Alteration Mastery as well). And while it does give absolutely amazing sustain, I don’t have over 2k SD (non-buffed). But, that is the trade-off. To sacrifice power for solid sustain and defense. You know? There’s a give and take thing going on. Then I come across another MagDK who mood me up, and I ask to see their character sheets... And I see them with just about the same amount of regeneration as me (sometimes more), around 2.5k SD (non-buffed), and usually with more health than me. And they’re more tanky than me 9x out of 10. Mind you, I’m no pushover. I sit at 28k health, about 1.6k or 1.8k SD, about 1.8k magicka regeneration, and crit resistance over 2k (like 2.1k or 2.2k). I’m in all heavy armor and previoisly mentioned, and have sturdy on 3 pieces of gear. Plus 1 shield play jewelry enchantment. So yes, I’m a “block caster” and “perma-blocker”. But still, I get steamrolled by some of these fellows. And it is as if I have no resistances and am not blocking at all. It’s the craziest thing.
And it’s not always that this happens, but usually up against people who are apart of the “in circle” of Cyrodiil’s PvP. You know. The leaderboard crowd, and ones who dictate who gets emperor and don’t. The folks who decide which alliance wins and loses campaigns (yes this exists, as PS4-NA Vivec is pure politics). It’s never against the average player, and regular Joe when I experience these crushing losses. In fact, I win most of those fights from CC pressure and block casting. But these other players? N’ah. I can’t even dent them it feels like. The players which have MagBlades that sit at around 20k HP (if that), but I can never land a blow on or scratch their shields. Yet, they can absolutely annihilate me without any issues. The folks who have StamWardens and StamPlars can get near 5k WD on their character sheets, all the while sitting at around 30k Health. You know?
Ugh @ your armor choices. Seducer was so last year!
When you have choices like BSW, Shackle breaker, (not dk - but Necropotence) Alchemist, Lich, Durok's - all give insane abilities and/or resources for free, to see a set like Seducer just makes me sad.
I am good, I really am - I'm on the leaderboards, duel good players etc.
But if I face off against someone like @zParallaxz or the crew at Wayrest (Xbox) that run META, poisons etc and ARE the best players - I'm not gonna win. My only chance is to be running a META spec on one of the best classes.
Not saying the guy wasn't cheating, but there are players that are That good. That can take on players that are that good - if they aren't as well1 -
DKsUnite✭✭✭✭✭
✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I bet this was on PS4 Vivec. The cesspool of shady garbage.
It was indeed, PS4-NA in Vivec. I’ve been talking it over with a few PvP guildies on Skype, and supposedly the players in DC on PS4-NA have a huge reputation for dishonest play (exploiting, buying from bots, buying from gold sellers, and account sharing, etc.). And this particular player had been banned in the past for AP exploitation (back when ZOS did the ban wave regarding the double AP event). Sooo, I’m not too sure now if we were mopped up legit. Or, if it was in fact something else at play here.
This was the main reason I left Vivec. I saw too much like this example that didn’t add up quite right.
I suppose it could be some bugged out armor setup, but I’ll say this. When ten solid players are beating on me plus resource poisions, it’s going to be a quick ending.
Same here. And I PvP on a DK as well (MagDK). I look at these players sometimes who can have 28k-30k health, have over 2.3k resource regeneration, manage to hit over 3k SD or WD, and it blows my mind. It really does. Because as I mentioned previously, usually there is a trade off that must occur.
For example, on my MagDK I run: 5pcs. Alteration Mastery, 5pcs. Seducer (all heavy), 2pcs. Grothdarr (in medium and light, but sometimes Blood Spawn), and a Lightning Staff on my back bar (Alteration Mastery as well). And while it does give absolutely amazing sustain, I don’t have over 2k SD (non-buffed). But, that is the trade-off. To sacrifice power for solid sustain and defense. You know? There’s a give and take thing going on. Then I come across another MagDK who mood me up, and I ask to see their character sheets... And I see them with just about the same amount of regeneration as me (sometimes more), around 2.5k SD (non-buffed), and usually with more health than me. And they’re more tanky than me 9x out of 10. Mind you, I’m no pushover. I sit at 28k health, about 1.6k or 1.8k SD, about 1.8k magicka regeneration, and crit resistance over 2k (like 2.1k or 2.2k). I’m in all heavy armor and previoisly mentioned, and have sturdy on 3 pieces of gear. Plus 1 shield play jewelry enchantment. So yes, I’m a “block caster” and “perma-blocker”. But still, I get steamrolled by some of these fellows. And it is as if I have no resistances and am not blocking at all. It’s the craziest thing.
I mean your set selection and build isn't really that great tbh....Vyr Cor | Magicka Dragonknight | DC
Vir Cor | Stamina Dragonknight | DC
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I bet this was on PS4 Vivec. The cesspool of shady garbage.
It was indeed, PS4-NA in Vivec. I’ve been talking it over with a few PvP guildies on Skype, and supposedly the players in DC on PS4-NA have a huge reputation for dishonest play (exploiting, buying from bots, buying from gold sellers, and account sharing, etc.). And this particular player had been banned in the past for AP exploitation (back when ZOS did the ban wave regarding the double AP event). Sooo, I’m not too sure now if we were mopped up legit. Or, if it was in fact something else at play here.
This was the main reason I left Vivec. I saw too much like this example that didn’t add up quite right.
I suppose it could be some bugged out armor setup, but I’ll say this. When ten solid players are beating on me plus resource poisions, it’s going to be a quick ending.
Same here. And I PvP on a DK as well (MagDK). I look at these players sometimes who can have 28k-30k health, have over 2.3k resource regeneration, manage to hit over 3k SD or WD, and it blows my mind. It really does. Because as I mentioned previously, usually there is a trade off that must occur.
For example, on my MagDK I run: 5pcs. Alteration Mastery, 5pcs. Seducer (all heavy), 2pcs. Grothdarr (in medium and light, but sometimes Blood Spawn), and a Lightning Staff on my back bar (Alteration Mastery as well). And while it does give absolutely amazing sustain, I don’t have over 2k SD (non-buffed). But, that is the trade-off. To sacrifice power for solid sustain and defense. You know? There’s a give and take thing going on. Then I come across another MagDK who mood me up, and I ask to see their character sheets... And I see them with just about the same amount of regeneration as me (sometimes more), around 2.5k SD (non-buffed), and usually with more health than me. And they’re more tanky than me 9x out of 10. Mind you, I’m no pushover. I sit at 28k health, about 1.6k or 1.8k SD, about 1.8k magicka regeneration, and crit resistance over 2k (like 2.1k or 2.2k). I’m in all heavy armor and previoisly mentioned, and have sturdy on 3 pieces of gear. Plus 1 shield play jewelry enchantment. So yes, I’m a “block caster” and “perma-blocker”. But still, I get steamrolled by some of these fellows. And it is as if I have no resistances and am not blocking at all. It’s the craziest thing.
I mean your set selection and build isn't really that great tbh....
His spell damage is way too low, I hit the same Regen without a set like Seducer, his crit resistance is at least 1k too low...
Unfortunately it's underwhelming in every departmentEdited by Waffennacht on December 28, 2017 11:42PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭pretty stats are easy to achieve with mundus stones, glyphs, food/drink, pots and of course effective offensive or defensive sets...
try light and heavy attacking once in awhile...
if you really just want to spam stuff - go with the regen drinks...
your build will only carry you so far - learning to fight is the tough part...
bunching up on a tank isn't always the best approach - kind of like those old blazing shield folks back in the day...
root them, defile them, poison them...still can't kill them - let em be, or, just use them as a mobile ult gen station, and then let them be...
bunching up with your group doesn't always go so well...
a lot of tanks will have a partner just waiting to bomb...PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place1 -
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✭✭✭✭pretty stats are easy to achieve with mundus stones, glyphs, food/drink, pots and of course effective offensive or defensive sets...
try light and heavy attacking once in awhile...
if you really just want to spam stuff - go with the regen drinks...
your build will only carry you so far - learning to fight is the tough part...
bunching up on a tank isn't always the best approach - kind of like those old blazing shield folks back in the day...
root them, defile them, poison them...still can't kill them - let em be, or, just use them as a mobile ult gen station, and then let them be...
bunching up with your group doesn't always go so well...
a lot of tanks will have a partner just waiting to bomb...
I think you need to L2Read.
And also stop treating people like pugs and thinking that you are so so smart and everyone else have zero game knowledge.
Really you're saying a long time PvP player that he can optimize his build with mundus, glyph, food etc..
That is just a clear insult to his intelligence, and really has nothing to do with the issue here.Edited by Ragnarock41 on December 29, 2017 12:11AM3 -
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✭✭✭✭And yet "stam dk is dead'. Biggest joke I've read
I think as a guy who doesnt have much clue about sDK, you shouldn't really jump the gun here.
I know for some reason you hate stamDKs,and they are popular on consoles for how little mecnanical skill the class requires, but they work best as a pugstomper, so take my advice as an old sDK main, don't be a pug and focus the walking rock. Allright?4 -
DKsUnite✭✭✭✭✭
✭Waffennacht wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I bet this was on PS4 Vivec. The cesspool of shady garbage.
It was indeed, PS4-NA in Vivec. I’ve been talking it over with a few PvP guildies on Skype, and supposedly the players in DC on PS4-NA have a huge reputation for dishonest play (exploiting, buying from bots, buying from gold sellers, and account sharing, etc.). And this particular player had been banned in the past for AP exploitation (back when ZOS did the ban wave regarding the double AP event). Sooo, I’m not too sure now if we were mopped up legit. Or, if it was in fact something else at play here.
This was the main reason I left Vivec. I saw too much like this example that didn’t add up quite right.
I suppose it could be some bugged out armor setup, but I’ll say this. When ten solid players are beating on me plus resource poisions, it’s going to be a quick ending.
Same here. And I PvP on a DK as well (MagDK). I look at these players sometimes who can have 28k-30k health, have over 2.3k resource regeneration, manage to hit over 3k SD or WD, and it blows my mind. It really does. Because as I mentioned previously, usually there is a trade off that must occur.
For example, on my MagDK I run: 5pcs. Alteration Mastery, 5pcs. Seducer (all heavy), 2pcs. Grothdarr (in medium and light, but sometimes Blood Spawn), and a Lightning Staff on my back bar (Alteration Mastery as well). And while it does give absolutely amazing sustain, I don’t have over 2k SD (non-buffed). But, that is the trade-off. To sacrifice power for solid sustain and defense. You know? There’s a give and take thing going on. Then I come across another MagDK who mood me up, and I ask to see their character sheets... And I see them with just about the same amount of regeneration as me (sometimes more), around 2.5k SD (non-buffed), and usually with more health than me. And they’re more tanky than me 9x out of 10. Mind you, I’m no pushover. I sit at 28k health, about 1.6k or 1.8k SD, about 1.8k magicka regeneration, and crit resistance over 2k (like 2.1k or 2.2k). I’m in all heavy armor and previoisly mentioned, and have sturdy on 3 pieces of gear. Plus 1 shield play jewelry enchantment. So yes, I’m a “block caster” and “perma-blocker”. But still, I get steamrolled by some of these fellows. And it is as if I have no resistances and am not blocking at all. It’s the craziest thing.
I mean your set selection and build isn't really that great tbh....
His spell damage is way too low, I hit the same Regen without a set like Seducer, his crit resistance is at least 1k too low...
Unfortunately it's underwhelming in every department
I mean it's too low considering he is in heavy. I have like 1.75k buffed + 400 from sun but im in light so i have an extra 5k pene and 10% crit. Same regen, around 1.7-1.9 (depending on bar) but i have a lich proc waiting which takes me past 4k. And i run 3x block cost on jewels and im sitting at 2.5k impene atm. The resistance difference between light and heavy is basically non existent if you are constantly blocking so running heavy is a waste.Vyr Cor | Magicka Dragonknight | DC
Vir Cor | Stamina Dragonknight | DC
Latest Videos:
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✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »And yet "stam dk is dead'. Biggest joke I've read
I think as a guy who doesnt have much clue about sDK, you shouldn't really jump the gun here.
I know for some reason you hate stamDKs,and they are popular on consoles for how little mecnanical skill the class requires, but they work best as a pugstomper, so take my advice as an old sDK main, don't be a pug and focus the walking rock. Allright?
I probably know a lot more about stam dk than you actually.
Do me a big favor and never respond to my posts again. Deal?1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »pretty stats are easy to achieve with mundus stones, glyphs, food/drink, pots and of course effective offensive or defensive sets...
try light and heavy attacking once in awhile...
if you really just want to spam stuff - go with the regen drinks...
your build will only carry you so far - learning to fight is the tough part...
bunching up on a tank isn't always the best approach - kind of like those old blazing shield folks back in the day...
root them, defile them, poison them...still can't kill them - let em be, or, just use them as a mobile ult gen station, and then let them be...
bunching up with your group doesn't always go so well...
a lot of tanks will have a partner just waiting to bomb...
I think you need to L2Read.
And also stop treating people like pugs and thinking that you are so so smart and everyone else have zero game knowledge.
Really you're saying a long time PvP player that he can optimize his build with mundus, glyph, food etc..
That is just a clear insult to his intelligence, and really has nothing to do with the issue here.
read some of your other posts - which scary enough - made this post make more sense...
PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place4 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »pretty stats are easy to achieve with mundus stones, glyphs, food/drink, pots and of course effective offensive or defensive sets...
try light and heavy attacking once in awhile...
if you really just want to spam stuff - go with the regen drinks...
your build will only carry you so far - learning to fight is the tough part...
bunching up on a tank isn't always the best approach - kind of like those old blazing shield folks back in the day...
root them, defile them, poison them...still can't kill them - let em be, or, just use them as a mobile ult gen station, and then let them be...
bunching up with your group doesn't always go so well...
a lot of tanks will have a partner just waiting to bomb...
I think you need to L2Read.
And also stop treating people like pugs and thinking that you are so so smart and everyone else have zero game knowledge.
Really you're saying a long time PvP player that he can optimize his build with mundus, glyph, food etc..
That is just a clear insult to his intelligence, and really has nothing to do with the issue here.
read some of your other posts - which scary enough - made this post make more sense...
Well I do yell at clouds sometimes. tho Im not old.5 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »And yet "stam dk is dead'. Biggest joke I've read
I think as a guy who doesnt have much clue about sDK, you shouldn't really jump the gun here.
I know for some reason you hate stamDKs,and they are popular on consoles for how little mecnanical skill the class requires, but they work best as a pugstomper, so take my advice as an old sDK main, don't be a pug and focus the walking rock. Allright?
I probably know a lot more about stam dk than you actually.
Well, that settles it then, I'll show myself the door.1 -
geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »Ragnarock41 wrote: »pretty stats are easy to achieve with mundus stones, glyphs, food/drink, pots and of course effective offensive or defensive sets...
try light and heavy attacking once in awhile...
if you really just want to spam stuff - go with the regen drinks...
your build will only carry you so far - learning to fight is the tough part...
bunching up on a tank isn't always the best approach - kind of like those old blazing shield folks back in the day...
root them, defile them, poison them...still can't kill them - let em be, or, just use them as a mobile ult gen station, and then let them be...
bunching up with your group doesn't always go so well...
a lot of tanks will have a partner just waiting to bomb...
I think you need to L2Read.
And also stop treating people like pugs and thinking that you are so so smart and everyone else have zero game knowledge.
Really you're saying a long time PvP player that he can optimize his build with mundus, glyph, food etc..
That is just a clear insult to his intelligence, and really has nothing to do with the issue here.
read some of your other posts - which scary enough - made this post make more sense...
Well I do yell at clouds sometimes. tho Im not old.
i got ya beat @Ragnarock41 :
Edited by geonsocal on December 29, 2017 12:37AMPVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place4 -
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✭✭✭✭7th+ww hide back bar+BS+Asylum 2h. 8 sturdy Warrior Mundus. Decisive SnB
But you guys are definitely not skilled players to die to this build with so many. It’s literally designed just to 1vX scrubs as a good player will notice the permablock and realize he needs to deliver his burst during a window in which block is dropped. Also, your build needs work, a lot of work.Edited by Lexxypwns on December 29, 2017 12:48AM6 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭7th+ww hide back bar+BS+Asylum 2h. 8 sturdy Warrior Mundus. Decisive SnB
But you guys are definitely not skilled players to die to this build with so many. It’s literally designed just to 1vX scrubs as a good player will notice the permablock and realize he needs to deliver his burst during a window in which block is dropped. Also, your build needs work, a lot of work.
I did try this build with a vMA maul before. As far as I remember, it really has garbage burst potential. not garbage like a full tank, but you know, Its not that scary.
Anything with a burst heal can survive it. Don't see how it would kill 10 players, my only bet is people not realizing corrosive armor.Edited by Ragnarock41 on December 29, 2017 12:56AM0 -
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to that valiant poor soul whom withstood OP and his resource poison, ability spamming, ill equipped crew - and was able to effortlessly vanquish his numerous foes
PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place6 -
Lestorn✭✭✭I love how no one is considering the possibility of the alleged target being an emperor.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I bet this was on PS4 Vivec. The cesspool of shady garbage.
It was indeed, PS4-NA in Vivec. I’ve been talking it over with a few PvP guildies on Skype, and supposedly the players in DC on PS4-NA have a huge reputation for dishonest play (exploiting, buying from bots, buying from gold sellers, and account sharing, etc.). And this particular player had been banned in the past for AP exploitation (back when ZOS did the ban wave regarding the double AP event). Sooo, I’m not too sure now if we were mopped up legit. Or, if it was in fact something else at play here.
This was the main reason I left Vivec. I saw too much like this example that didn’t add up quite right.
I suppose it could be some bugged out armor setup, but I’ll say this. When ten solid players are beating on me plus resource poisions, it’s going to be a quick ending.
Same here. And I PvP on a DK as well (MagDK). I look at these players sometimes who can have 28k-30k health, have over 2.3k resource regeneration, manage to hit over 3k SD or WD, and it blows my mind. It really does. Because as I mentioned previously, usually there is a trade off that must occur.
For example, on my MagDK I run: 5pcs. Alteration Mastery, 5pcs. Seducer (all heavy), 2pcs. Grothdarr (in medium and light, but sometimes Blood Spawn), and a Lightning Staff on my back bar (Alteration Mastery as well). And while it does give absolutely amazing sustain, I don’t have over 2k SD (non-buffed). But, that is the trade-off. To sacrifice power for solid sustain and defense. You know? There’s a give and take thing going on. Then I come across another MagDK who mood me up, and I ask to see their character sheets... And I see them with just about the same amount of regeneration as me (sometimes more), around 2.5k SD (non-buffed), and usually with more health than me. And they’re more tanky than me 9x out of 10. Mind you, I’m no pushover. I sit at 28k health, about 1.6k or 1.8k SD, about 1.8k magicka regeneration, and crit resistance over 2k (like 2.1k or 2.2k). I’m in all heavy armor and previoisly mentioned, and have sturdy on 3 pieces of gear. Plus 1 shield play jewelry enchantment. So yes, I’m a “block caster” and “perma-blocker”. But still, I get steamrolled by some of these fellows. And it is as if I have no resistances and am not blocking at all. It’s the craziest thing.
I mean your set selection and build isn't really that great tbh....
His spell damage is way too low, I hit the same Regen without a set like Seducer, his crit resistance is at least 1k too low...
Unfortunately it's underwhelming in every department
I mean it's too low considering he is in heavy. I have like 1.75k buffed + 400 from sun but im in light so i have an extra 5k pene and 10% crit. Same regen, around 1.7-1.9 (depending on bar) but i have a lich proc waiting which takes me past 4k. And i run 3x block cost on jewels and im sitting at 2.5k impene atm. The resistance difference between light and heavy is basically non existent if you are constantly blocking so running heavy is a waste.
Your build sounds fine, it's not Seducer + Alteration tho. And just for reference, when heavy lost wrath, sets like seducer became a big ol pile of meh
Edit: and in a world where sets make you go, "G.D!" Meh just doesn't cut itEdited by Waffennacht on December 29, 2017 1:42AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I bet this was on PS4 Vivec. The cesspool of shady garbage.
It was indeed, PS4-NA in Vivec. I’ve been talking it over with a few PvP guildies on Skype, and supposedly the players in DC on PS4-NA have a huge reputation for dishonest play (exploiting, buying from bots, buying from gold sellers, and account sharing, etc.). And this particular player had been banned in the past for AP exploitation (back when ZOS did the ban wave regarding the double AP event). Sooo, I’m not too sure now if we were mopped up legit. Or, if it was in fact something else at play here.
This was the main reason I left Vivec. I saw too much like this example that didn’t add up quite right.
I suppose it could be some bugged out armor setup, but I’ll say this. When ten solid players are beating on me plus resource poisions, it’s going to be a quick ending.
Same here. And I PvP on a DK as well (MagDK). I look at these players sometimes who can have 28k-30k health, have over 2.3k resource regeneration, manage to hit over 3k SD or WD, and it blows my mind. It really does. Because as I mentioned previously, usually there is a trade off that must occur.
For example, on my MagDK I run: 5pcs. Alteration Mastery, 5pcs. Seducer (all heavy), 2pcs. Grothdarr (in medium and light, but sometimes Blood Spawn), and a Lightning Staff on my back bar (Alteration Mastery as well). And while it does give absolutely amazing sustain, I don’t have over 2k SD (non-buffed). But, that is the trade-off. To sacrifice power for solid sustain and defense. You know? There’s a give and take thing going on. Then I come across another MagDK who mood me up, and I ask to see their character sheets... And I see them with just about the same amount of regeneration as me (sometimes more), around 2.5k SD (non-buffed), and usually with more health than me. And they’re more tanky than me 9x out of 10. Mind you, I’m no pushover. I sit at 28k health, about 1.6k or 1.8k SD, about 1.8k magicka regeneration, and crit resistance over 2k (like 2.1k or 2.2k). I’m in all heavy armor and previoisly mentioned, and have sturdy on 3 pieces of gear. Plus 1 shield play jewelry enchantment. So yes, I’m a “block caster” and “perma-blocker”. But still, I get steamrolled by some of these fellows. And it is as if I have no resistances and am not blocking at all. It’s the craziest thing.
I mean your set selection and build isn't really that great tbh....
His spell damage is way too low, I hit the same Regen without a set like Seducer, his crit resistance is at least 1k too low...
Unfortunately it's underwhelming in every department
I mean it's too low considering he is in heavy. I have like 1.75k buffed + 400 from sun but im in light so i have an extra 5k pene and 10% crit. Same regen, around 1.7-1.9 (depending on bar) but i have a lich proc waiting which takes me past 4k. And i run 3x block cost on jewels and im sitting at 2.5k impene atm. The resistance difference between light and heavy is basically non existent if you are constantly blocking so running heavy is a waste.
Your build sounds fine, it's not Seducer + Alteration tho. And just for reference, when heavy lost wrath, sets like seducer became a big ol pile of meh
Edit: and in a world where sets make you go, "G.D!" Meh just doesn't cut it
So you mean to tell me that all of a sudden Alteration Mastery and Seducer are bad on a MagDK, when as is DK’s have the most expensive skills in the game. And also happen to have really bad sustain naturally? Unless there’s some type of universal knowledge which was passed around while I spent months upon months mastering my craft in PvE, PvP felt the hard-hitting sustain changes with Morrowind just as much as we did on the PvE spectrum. And because HA had 1 of its passive changed, now sets like Seducer are bad? WTF? And a quick question. Why on Earth would I not run HA? I tried going the 5 light with all sturdy route, and it ended miserably. All it takes is to get feared, and or have something pop your guard. And voila. Just like that, you’re boned. So unless if people are dumping all their red CP into boosting crit resistance, HA with most traits being impenetrable seems to be the route to go.3 -
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✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I bet this was on PS4 Vivec. The cesspool of shady garbage.
It was indeed, PS4-NA in Vivec. I’ve been talking it over with a few PvP guildies on Skype, and supposedly the players in DC on PS4-NA have a huge reputation for dishonest play (exploiting, buying from bots, buying from gold sellers, and account sharing, etc.). And this particular player had been banned in the past for AP exploitation (back when ZOS did the ban wave regarding the double AP event). Sooo, I’m not too sure now if we were mopped up legit. Or, if it was in fact something else at play here.
This was the main reason I left Vivec. I saw too much like this example that didn’t add up quite right.
I suppose it could be some bugged out armor setup, but I’ll say this. When ten solid players are beating on me plus resource poisions, it’s going to be a quick ending.
Same here. And I PvP on a DK as well (MagDK). I look at these players sometimes who can have 28k-30k health, have over 2.3k resource regeneration, manage to hit over 3k SD or WD, and it blows my mind. It really does. Because as I mentioned previously, usually there is a trade off that must occur.
For example, on my MagDK I run: 5pcs. Alteration Mastery, 5pcs. Seducer (all heavy), 2pcs. Grothdarr (in medium and light, but sometimes Blood Spawn), and a Lightning Staff on my back bar (Alteration Mastery as well). And while it does give absolutely amazing sustain, I don’t have over 2k SD (non-buffed). But, that is the trade-off. To sacrifice power for solid sustain and defense. You know? There’s a give and take thing going on. Then I come across another MagDK who mood me up, and I ask to see their character sheets... And I see them with just about the same amount of regeneration as me (sometimes more), around 2.5k SD (non-buffed), and usually with more health than me. And they’re more tanky than me 9x out of 10. Mind you, I’m no pushover. I sit at 28k health, about 1.6k or 1.8k SD, about 1.8k magicka regeneration, and crit resistance over 2k (like 2.1k or 2.2k). I’m in all heavy armor and previoisly mentioned, and have sturdy on 3 pieces of gear. Plus 1 shield play jewelry enchantment. So yes, I’m a “block caster” and “perma-blocker”. But still, I get steamrolled by some of these fellows. And it is as if I have no resistances and am not blocking at all. It’s the craziest thing.
I mean your set selection and build isn't really that great tbh....
His spell damage is way too low, I hit the same Regen without a set like Seducer, his crit resistance is at least 1k too low...
Unfortunately it's underwhelming in every department
I mean it's too low considering he is in heavy. I have like 1.75k buffed + 400 from sun but im in light so i have an extra 5k pene and 10% crit. Same regen, around 1.7-1.9 (depending on bar) but i have a lich proc waiting which takes me past 4k. And i run 3x block cost on jewels and im sitting at 2.5k impene atm. The resistance difference between light and heavy is basically non existent if you are constantly blocking so running heavy is a waste.
Your build sounds fine, it's not Seducer + Alteration tho. And just for reference, when heavy lost wrath, sets like seducer became a big ol pile of meh
Edit: and in a world where sets make you go, "G.D!" Meh just doesn't cut it
Maybe Not on a DK, but it has value for classes like sorcs that are spamming shields or any spell per second. The %8 reduction could be worth about 400 recovery depending on what youre spamming.
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✭✭✭✭✭There's cheat engine for ps4 , just google it . Can't post it here but I've seen almost every game on ps4 have a version available .5 -
akredon_ESO✭✭✭✭Seducers is ok but like @Waffennacht said its kinda taken the hit with the nerf to WD. Not to mention Light armor gives a Shiiiiiit ton of Armor pen wich makes you deal more damage. To me personally HA is kinda meh specially against the type of builds you went against. I really wish you would have have saved the vid on the fight because i would have loved to Dissect it like a lil froggie
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✭✭✭✭✭Ya know who else use to list all the possible buffs you can going at once in Cyrodiil ? Zazeer lol .He would fully be farming people at the top of keeps and say all the buffs he had going . The very same person that a year later crashed the entire game with CE a year later . I don't even listen to that stuff anymore . If it seems odd it's because it's odd . No need for men in black thermal gas pocket explanation for unidentified flyin zazeers .9 -
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✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »There isn't any set that lets you 10v1 against good players. simple as that.
Its either cheat engine or you're all pugs. No class, not even stamden, can go ahead, permablock, and then kill 10 good players.
Something is off here. Again its either
A. cheats
B.exploit, bug.
C.Puggy eyes.
Even a good emperor only takes 4-5 coordinated people to kill.
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Devil Grip/video/40044235
Not me and not emp but he does ZERO damage he has clips on his Xbox and he has taken on "tanked" 25+ ppl
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Probably using Blood spawn with asylum 2h and heroic slash + earthen heart and if he's using an ulti cost reduction set then that'll give him it in under a min if setup correctly.不動の Steadfast - Unwavering
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✭✭✭✭✭If I was a betting man I’d say he’s running my old DK build..
Torug / infused / prismatic glyph = dead vamps. You said the magplar melted. I bet that’s why.
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✭✭✭Has anyone considered that he was running:
2 Bloodspawn
5 Fortified Brass (medium)
5 Werewolf Hide (on the SnB bar)
...with the Asylum 2H on the back bar?
His tankiness, ulti-regen, and damage would be pretty damn strong. The fortified brass would give him high resistances of heavy armor- but still benefit from the crit and weapon damage of medium armor. All the while- he'd be earning ultimate as he's attacked. Not to mention that he could still run Shuffle for survivability. So the few hits that he would receive would proc werewolf hide.
Edited by Savos_Saren on December 29, 2017 3:22AMWant to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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✭✭✭✭Savos_Saren wrote: »Has anyone considered that he was running:
2 Bloodspawn
5 Fortified Brass (medium)
5 Werewolf Hide (on the SnB bar)
...with the Asylum 2H on the back bar?
His tankiness, ulti-regen, and damage would be pretty damn strong. The fortified brass would give him high resistances of heavy armor- but still benefit from the crit and weapon damage of medium armor. All the while- he'd be earning ultimate as he's attacked.
Impreg is basically always better than brass1
