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Finally Encountered the Infamous Build

  • A_G_G_R_O
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    A_G_G_R_O wrote: »
    Please secret, it’s a FoTM kodi build.
    Nothing on Kodi, but ya it’s not some secret build lol it’s been sold out to the community via YouTube. Hence the massively uptake of standers in pvp.

    It's not Kodi's take a look a Elusiveshady's stam DK tank

    Does it matter? Either build isn’t that secret, it’s a logical cobbling of strong sets.
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    A_G_G_R_O wrote: »
    My money is on pugs.

    1 of us was a General, and 2 were August Palatines. I myself am a Colonel. The others were a mix of Tribunes and Brigadiers.

    The rank means nothing, you got outplayed by a better player. Zerglings don't always win they lack real skill. You don't know how long this person worked on their playstyle or what they sacrificed to be good. I am sure even if they gave you their build u could not do the same. There are really good players, simple. <3

    Also 10 plp is not a lot.
    Edited by Girl_Number8 on December 28, 2017 7:13PM
  • geonsocal
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    hey @Ch4mpTW ...i didn't know you play in my neck of the woods (ps4/na/vivec)...very cool :)

    man, what an absolutely fantastic campaign we're having...

    all three alliances within about 150 points of each other with 5 days or so to play...

    seems we get treated to one of these magnificent campaigns 2 or 3 times a year...

    I've definitely run in to a bunch of super difficult players to kill out on our map - depending on my own build (defile type build works well) is whether or not i'm able to slow them up (along with a host of other players)...

    been a while though since I've actually been killed by a tank...best not to always stay standing right next to them when your trying to bring them down...

    after beating on someone for 5 to 10 minutes though - i'll usually move on to something else...
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  • Kuramas9tails
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    A_G_G_R_O wrote: »
    Does it matter? Either build isn’t that secret, it’s a logical cobbling of strong sets.

    They probably don't know when to cut ties and instead, run out of resources and die to the build. I see it all the time.
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    • Waffennacht
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      He said it was a stamDK. DKs are usually the only ones able to do this. Cuz like they can permablock, then throw down abilities like Leap to gib everyone.

      I know of such builds.

      I guarantee you it was the Oh so mentioned Heavy sets that are insane ATM.
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    • Apache_Kid
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      Ch4mpTW wrote: »
      Until just a few seconds, I had heard of the build that everyone is talking about in which people run 2H and S&B while being completely immune to CC and damage for the most part. And is capable of dishing out skyhigh damage. I thought this was just a rumor, as Morrowind nerfed a lot of things. And how supposedly healing was nerfed in PvP. Boy oh boy was I mistaken...

      This joker was at 30k HP, ran 2H and S&B, absorbed the damage of no lie 10 people wailing on him (colonels and above), and managed to kill us all no problem. He generated ultimate like nothing I have ever seen, and seemingly appeared to have no problems with sustain. Even though everyone is running resource poisons. It was a StamDK we were fighting by the way, and no. He wasn’t emperor. And no, we could barely CC him outside of an occasional Fossilize (which wasn’t that effective).

      What type of super build is this, and why is it growing that popular all of a sudden? I usually duel in Auridon, and had heard of a growing trend in either StamDK’s or StamWardens with ridiculous sustain, damage, and healing. And are completely immune somewhat to resource poisons.

      And before someone asks, no. They weren’t wearing Troll King. They were wearing Blood Spawn. Although, I have been noticing that Troll King’s usage has spiked ridiculously these past few weeks for whatever the reason in both duels and Cyrodiil.

      Didn't you make a thread like a month ago claiming that DK was by far the worst class for PvP and was completely dead?

      Edit: I looked back at the thread and you and I had an argument where you claimed that there were no longer any DKs running around Cyrodiil becsuse they are they are terrible compared to Nightblades and other classes.

      https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/379466/does-zos-actually-know-what-class-balance-is/p1
      Edited by Apache_Kid on December 28, 2017 7:43PM
    • Ratzkifal
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      I heard from a whining thread that Meridia's blessed armor might be the culprit. It completely negates damage from other players for a few seconds with (hypothetical and unrealistic) maximum up-time of 50% of the fight. It also seems to work on multiple targets, which isn't that clear from the description. I imagine, if paired with a damage set a stamDK will be able to 1vX and win. I was going to grind that set to check out if the rumours are true.
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      Some Werewolf Hide mixed with Bloodspawn and a smidge of Asylum 2h. Preferrably the Axe type. Put on some Truth and make sure to do a barrel roll before taking flight ;) And keep some Immovable Pots with Stamina and Forward Momentum equipped. That'll give you have sustain, CC immunity, tankiness, lots of burst damage and ulti generation

      I respecced my Mag DK to Stam a while back and took him to PvP for the 1st time a few weeks ago as my first ever stam toon. Friggin' loved it :D

      Edited by Tryxus on December 28, 2017 8:00PM
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    • Ragnarock41
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      Ratzkifal wrote: »
      I heard from a whining thread that Meridia's blessed armor might be the culprit. It completely negates damage from other players for a few seconds with (hypothetical and unrealistic) maximum up-time of 50% of the fight. It also seems to work on multiple targets, which isn't that clear from the description. I imagine, if paired with a damage set a stamDK will be able to 1vX and win. I was going to grind that set to check out if the rumours are true.

      It only works on a single target at a time, So no, Its actually a horrible set for 1vX.
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      He said it was a stamDK. DKs are usually the only ones able to do this. Cuz like they can permablock, then throw down abilities like Leap to gib everyone.

      I know of such builds.

      I guarantee you it was the Oh so mentioned Heavy sets that are insane ATM.

      he also said ferocious leap, why would any top tier sdk with half a brain would ever use ferocious leap over take flight?
      again Its a complete mystery to me.
      Edited by Ragnarock41 on December 28, 2017 7:47PM
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      A_G_G_R_O wrote: »
      Does it matter? Either build isn’t that secret, it’s a logical cobbling of strong sets.

      They probably don't know when to cut ties and instead, run out of resources and die to the build. I see it all the time.

      listen to Oddball
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      He said it was a stamDK. DKs are usually the only ones able to do this. Cuz like they can permablock, then throw down abilities like Leap to gib everyone.

      I know of such builds.

      I guarantee you it was the Oh so mentioned Heavy sets that are insane ATM.

      he also said ferocious leap, why would any top tier sdk with half a brain would ever use ferocious leap over take flight?
      again Its a complete mystery to me.

      That’s what I’m saying. A lot of things didn’t add up, and we all felt were rather odd. If you’re running a StamDK, Take Flight SHOULD be used instead of Ferocious Leap. It’s just common sense. Also, I’m aware that there are certain sets which boost ultimate regeneration. But to go from a Leap to Corrosive in literally under 10 seconds? That’s insane. And mind you, even though It was just us 10 fighting this guy? We were squabbling at Alessia lumber mill. So we had NPC’s to help out (lol even though not really, as NPC’s are ass 9x out of 10). And dude was just giving us the work. I have never seen a MagPlar get melted as fast as I saw earlier (1 of the Tribunes in our group). Dude got obliterated. And by a StamDK too. I was like, “Lol, that’s enough ESO for the day. Gonna make a thread, and go hop on Overwatch.”
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      Ch4mpTW wrote: »
      He said it was a stamDK. DKs are usually the only ones able to do this. Cuz like they can permablock, then throw down abilities like Leap to gib everyone.

      I know of such builds.

      I guarantee you it was the Oh so mentioned Heavy sets that are insane ATM.

      he also said ferocious leap, why would any top tier sdk with half a brain would ever use ferocious leap over take flight?
      again Its a complete mystery to me.

      That’s what I’m saying. A lot of things didn’t add up, and we all felt were rather odd. If you’re running a StamDK, Take Flight SHOULD be used instead of Ferocious Leap. It’s just common sense. Also, I’m aware that there are certain sets which boost ultimate regeneration. But to go from a Leap to Corrosive in literally under 10 seconds? That’s insane. And mind you, even though It was just us 10 fighting this guy? We were squabbling at Alessia lumber mill. So we had NPC’s to help out (lol even though not really, as NPC’s are ass 9x out of 10). And dude was just giving us the work. I have never seen a MagPlar get melted as fast as I saw earlier (1 of the Tribunes in our group). Dude got obliterated. And by a StamDK too. I was like, “Lol, that’s enough ESO for the day. Gonna make a thread, and go hop on Overwatch.”

      If you can, please post a video on youtube,and pm me a link, even if you wont be able to post it openly on here, I would like to investigate this further.
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      Ch4mpTW wrote: »
      He said it was a stamDK. DKs are usually the only ones able to do this. Cuz like they can permablock, then throw down abilities like Leap to gib everyone.

      I know of such builds.

      I guarantee you it was the Oh so mentioned Heavy sets that are insane ATM.

      he also said ferocious leap, why would any top tier sdk with half a brain would ever use ferocious leap over take flight?
      again Its a complete mystery to me.

      That’s what I’m saying. A lot of things didn’t add up, and we all felt were rather odd. If you’re running a StamDK, Take Flight SHOULD be used instead of Ferocious Leap. It’s just common sense. Also, I’m aware that there are certain sets which boost ultimate regeneration. But to go from a Leap to Corrosive in literally under 10 seconds? That’s insane. And mind you, even though It was just us 10 fighting this guy? We were squabbling at Alessia lumber mill. So we had NPC’s to help out (lol even though not really, as NPC’s are ass 9x out of 10). And dude was just giving us the work. I have never seen a MagPlar get melted as fast as I saw earlier (1 of the Tribunes in our group). Dude got obliterated. And by a StamDK too. I was like, “Lol, that’s enough ESO for the day. Gonna make a thread, and go hop on Overwatch.”

      If you can, please post a video on youtube,and pm me a link, even if you wont be able to post it openly on here, I would like to investigate this further.

      Didn’t save it, as I said. Was thinking about how I could get banned for naming and shaming. I’ve gotten plenty of moderation warnings about that, and not trying to get banned over something questionable in PvP. So I just figured it would be wise to just make a thread mentioning it, and then leave it be (in regards of video footage). However, I most certainly will document it next time. And then just pass around the video through PM’s to those who ask.
      Edited by Ch4mpTW on December 28, 2017 8:06PM
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      Ch4mpTW wrote: »
      He said it was a stamDK. DKs are usually the only ones able to do this. Cuz like they can permablock, then throw down abilities like Leap to gib everyone.

      I know of such builds.

      I guarantee you it was the Oh so mentioned Heavy sets that are insane ATM.

      he also said ferocious leap, why would any top tier sdk with half a brain would ever use ferocious leap over take flight?
      again Its a complete mystery to me.

      That’s what I’m saying. A lot of things didn’t add up, and we all felt were rather odd. If you’re running a StamDK, Take Flight SHOULD be used instead of Ferocious Leap. It’s just common sense. Also, I’m aware that there are certain sets which boost ultimate regeneration. But to go from a Leap to Corrosive in literally under 10 seconds? That’s insane. And mind you, even though It was just us 10 fighting this guy? We were squabbling at Alessia lumber mill. So we had NPC’s to help out (lol even though not really, as NPC’s are ass 9x out of 10). And dude was just giving us the work. I have never seen a MagPlar get melted as fast as I saw earlier (1 of the Tribunes in our group). Dude got obliterated. And by a StamDK too. I was like, “Lol, that’s enough ESO for the day. Gonna make a thread, and go hop on Overwatch.”

      NPCs hurt you, they die giving ult, they can be used to Regen stats, you don't want NPCs around.

      Yes, 2h asylum + alliance rank means 30+ ult instantly, then 3 sources of ult gain (heal, la, block) means 40 ult in that 1 sec.

      2 deaths + 3 sec = 200 + ult (so ult every 10? Easy)

      Edit: also bloodspawn
      Edited by Waffennacht on December 28, 2017 8:08PM
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      Also, why would a 15k shield be looked down upon? Especially with that ult gain
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    • geonsocal
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      Ch4mpTW wrote: »
      seemingly appeared to have no problems with sustain. Even though everyone is running resource poisons.

      oh yeah - almost forgot:
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      :p
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    • altemriel
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      Neoauspex wrote: »
      Sounds like a 5pc cheat engine set



      lol, what a set, nothing can beat it :smiley:
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      Ch4mpTW wrote: »
      Ch4mpTW wrote: »
      He said it was a stamDK. DKs are usually the only ones able to do this. Cuz like they can permablock, then throw down abilities like Leap to gib everyone.

      I know of such builds.

      I guarantee you it was the Oh so mentioned Heavy sets that are insane ATM.

      he also said ferocious leap, why would any top tier sdk with half a brain would ever use ferocious leap over take flight?
      again Its a complete mystery to me.

      That’s what I’m saying. A lot of things didn’t add up, and we all felt were rather odd. If you’re running a StamDK, Take Flight SHOULD be used instead of Ferocious Leap. It’s just common sense. Also, I’m aware that there are certain sets which boost ultimate regeneration. But to go from a Leap to Corrosive in literally under 10 seconds? That’s insane. And mind you, even though It was just us 10 fighting this guy? We were squabbling at Alessia lumber mill. So we had NPC’s to help out (lol even though not really, as NPC’s are ass 9x out of 10). And dude was just giving us the work. I have never seen a MagPlar get melted as fast as I saw earlier (1 of the Tribunes in our group). Dude got obliterated. And by a StamDK too. I was like, “Lol, that’s enough ESO for the day. Gonna make a thread, and go hop on Overwatch.”

      If you can, please post a video on youtube,and pm me a link, even if you wont be able to post it openly on here, I would like to investigate this further.

      Didn’t save it, as I said. Was thinking about how I could get banned for naming and shaming. I’ve gotten plenty of moderation warnings about that, and not trying to get banned over something questionable in PvP. So I just figured it would be wise to just make a thread mentioning it, and then leave it be (in regards of video footage). However, I most certainly will document it next time. And then just pass around the video through PM’s to those who ask.

      eh.. thats a shame.
      Anyways,

      What I think is seventh legion (as it has a bugged heal that procs multiple times)
      + lingering hp pots

      I tried that combo in vivec before and I was able to tank a few players for eternity.
      And I could add troll king on top of that for even more survivability.
      But now we are in the defile meta. Can't pull out that sort of stunt anymore.
      Edited by Ragnarock41 on December 28, 2017 8:20PM
    • Ratzkifal
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      Ratzkifal wrote: »
      I heard from a whining thread that Meridia's blessed armor might be the culprit. It completely negates damage from other players for a few seconds with (hypothetical and unrealistic) maximum up-time of 50% of the fight. It also seems to work on multiple targets, which isn't that clear from the description. I imagine, if paired with a damage set a stamDK will be able to 1vX and win. I was going to grind that set to check out if the rumours are true.

      It only works on a single target at a time, So no, Its actually a horrible set for 1vX.

      Well, like I said. People claim that it does work against multiple enemies. Not in the sense that it blocks ALL damage once it procs but that it procs for each enemy individually and has a cooldown for each enemy individually. I will still check if this is true or not. Can't be that hard of a set to get.
      This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
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      Ch4mpTW wrote: »
      Until just a few seconds, I had heard of the build that everyone is talking about in which people run 2H and S&B while being completely immune to CC and damage for the most part. And is capable of dishing out skyhigh damage. I thought this was just a rumor, as Morrowind nerfed a lot of things. And how supposedly healing was nerfed in PvP. Boy oh boy was I mistaken...

      This joker was at 30k HP, ran 2H and S&B, absorbed the damage of no lie 10 people wailing on him (colonels and above), and managed to kill us all no problem. He generated ultimate like nothing I have ever seen, and seemingly appeared to have no problems with sustain. Even though everyone is running resource poisons. It was a StamDK we were fighting by the way, and no. He wasn’t emperor. And no, we could barely CC him outside of an occasional Fossilize (which wasn’t that effective).

      What type of super build is this, and why is it growing that popular all of a sudden? I usually duel in Auridon, and had heard of a growing trend in either StamDK’s or StamWardens with ridiculous sustain, damage, and healing. And are completely immune somewhat to resource poisons.

      And before someone asks, no. They weren’t wearing Troll King. They were wearing Blood Spawn. Although, I have been noticing that Troll King’s usage has spiked ridiculously these past few weeks for whatever the reason in both duels and Cyrodiil.

      You probably ran into Kodi lol:)
      They are running ult gen build with probably werewolf hide, bloodspawn and heroic slash and thus have unlimited sustain. For the cc immunity they most likely run immove pots and use forward momentum.
      I dont think they necessary run cheat engine or anything, they are just well rounded builds on progamers.
      Just cause you and your buddies have high pvp ranks that doesnt mean yall are good. Unfortunately 70% of high ranks are worse than lower ranks as they get these ranks from zerging and running cheese set ups. Then they think they are good, get exposed by real pros and there we go…

      Or they run r cheating who knows lol;)
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      Well,this explains why that Werewolf Hide shield i put on guild trader sold for 50k within 10 minutes. :p
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      I bet this was on PS4 Vivec. The cesspool of shady garbage.
    • f047ys3v3n
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      Neoauspex wrote: »
      Sounds like a 5pc cheat engine set

      I ran into a guy doing the same thing last week. Admittedly the group I was running with that day was not the greatest but we were 7on1 to him and he was yes, pretty much CC immune, capable on instant healing, never running out of resources, and eventually he found and started bursting down the weaker players despite the heals. He did all this with very little bothering about trying to line of sight players.

      Two other interesting facts....

      1) Player in question was a streamer, a stam warden, very high ranking, though I have also seen stam dk's that had similar unkillable atributes.

      2) The next day his client crashed mid stream revealing to all watching that he was running cheat engine in the background, something I could have told you but amazingly there were a few in my group who had not been convinced (there were also folks who thought Lance Armstrong was just really good to beat all those guys who themselves were cheating).

      The bottom line is that probably all supercalifragilistic mega builds are really the same... 5pc cheat engine with 50 CP in CE. There are no special I can be tanky, sustain forever, and also hit like a truck builds. The simple fact is that all choices in terms of gear and spec are a compromise of tankyness, power, and sustain. While skill, burst macros (or just well practiced combos), line of sighting, and knowledge can greatly improve ones ability to succeed the guy getting hammered on by 5+ players who are not total potatoes and turning around and winning is probably cheating. This is simply because 5x incoming damage and 5k heals of each-other are not things you can overcome. Even a significant number of guys who would like you to believe they do it all through line of sight get a lot of that line of sight by boosting things with cheat engine to help them stay ahead and overcome snares. It is very hard to stay ahead of a group of players constantly hitting you with snares when you, as only one player, cannot reciprocate snares on all of them.

      Cheat engine is pretty rampant out there and some very big names clearly use it. While bans are occasionally handed out this is often seen as just part of the price to be relevant like cheating in nascar. So, and so is on their latest CE ban, they will be back soon, they got a little too aggressive and so forth.

      Two days ago was pretty interesting. We were running back a blue scroll. We had very fast runner and a well coordinated group and were doing well staying ahead. We did so well that we only ever got caught by one player... He caught us 3 times. Each time he perfectly bombed and one shot the flag carrier despite the tankieness of that player and all the rest (we don't run no potato) in the area. Funny thing, that one player being able to catch us and one shot the flag carrier 3 times despite all those other players in his alliance that never even managed to do it once despite how hard they tried and how many of them were in hot pursuit. That one player, running CE hot and heavy, was almost enough to change the whole tide of the biggest fight on the map. His disruptions got gave his alliance time to come so very close though in the end we repelled, stayed ahead of, and wiped the less synthetically enhanced.

      CE matters, a lot, more than any other factor, battles are won and lost on a few players totally tweaking it out. I realize that because CE is a PC problem ZOS doesn't care about it but I do think that ZOS using the PC as there beta test platform when it is infested with CE leads to some interesting decisions on ZOS part. Often it seems that they nerf whatever skills, sets, and strategies, the CE users are using/doing with wilful blindness to the fact that those things only seem so OP because of the way they are being boosted by CE

      Obviously the solution to this is to nerf group synergy so that CE 1vs have an easier time. Stupid ZOS.
      Edited by f047ys3v3n on December 28, 2017 9:08PM
      I am currently worried for the future of ESO. Population seems like it is in free fall and the cancellation of the North America in-person gathering feels very much like pulling the plug. Kudos on fixing the in-game economy though. Clearly whatever gold shenanigans were happening the last couple years are fixed.
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      I'm also aware @Ch4mpTW isn't the best PvPer, not knocking you @Ch4mpTW , but let's be real, you're more like my skill level than someone like Kodi, @zParallaxz etc

      .....
      Edited by f047ys3v3n on December 28, 2017 8:58PM
      I am currently worried for the future of ESO. Population seems like it is in free fall and the cancellation of the North America in-person gathering feels very much like pulling the plug. Kudos on fixing the in-game economy though. Clearly whatever gold shenanigans were happening the last couple years are fixed.
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      I bet this was on PS4 Vivec. The cesspool of shady garbage.

      It was indeed, PS4-NA in Vivec. I’ve been talking it over with a few PvP guildies on Skype, and supposedly the players in DC on PS4-NA have a huge reputation for dishonest play (exploiting, buying from bots, buying from gold sellers, and account sharing, etc.). And this particular player had been banned in the past for AP exploitation (back when ZOS did the ban wave regarding the double AP event). Sooo, I’m not too sure now if we were mopped up legit. Or, if it was in fact something else at play here.
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      f047ys3v3n wrote: »
      I'm also aware @Ch4mpTW isn't the best PvPer, not knocking you @Ch4mpTW , but let's be real, you're more like my skill level than someone like Kodi, @zParallaxz etc

      .....

      Dunno what you said, but let me tell you this, I think @Ch4mpTW is pretty awesome, I think I need to add :tongue: in my older post
      Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
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      Battleground PvP'er

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    • Tan9oSuccka
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      Ch4mpTW wrote: »
      I bet this was on PS4 Vivec. The cesspool of shady garbage.

      It was indeed, PS4-NA in Vivec. I’ve been talking it over with a few PvP guildies on Skype, and supposedly the players in DC on PS4-NA have a huge reputation for dishonest play (exploiting, buying from bots, buying from gold sellers, and account sharing, etc.). And this particular player had been banned in the past for AP exploitation (back when ZOS did the ban wave regarding the double AP event). Sooo, I’m not too sure now if we were mopped up legit. Or, if it was in fact something else at play here.

      This was the main reason I left Vivec. I saw too much like this example that didn’t add up quite right.

      I suppose it could be some bugged out armor setup, but I’ll say this. When ten solid players are beating on me plus resource poisions, it’s going to be a quick ending.
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      A_G_G_R_O wrote: »
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      Please secret, it’s a FoTM kodi build.
      Nothing on Kodi, but ya it’s not some secret build lol it’s been sold out to the community via YouTube. Hence the massively uptake of standers in pvp.

      It's not Kodi's take a look a Elusiveshady's stam DK tank

      Does it matter? Either build isn’t that secret, it’s a logical cobbling of strong sets.

      hmmm a quick google search of that username brings up a lot of youtube videos/discussion even ones about this particular player being banned for exploiting mechanics...
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      Ch4mpTW wrote: »
      I bet this was on PS4 Vivec. The cesspool of shady garbage.

      It was indeed, PS4-NA in Vivec. I’ve been talking it over with a few PvP guildies on Skype, and supposedly the players in DC on PS4-NA have a huge reputation for dishonest play (exploiting, buying from bots, buying from gold sellers, and account sharing, etc.). And this particular player had been banned in the past for AP exploitation (back when ZOS did the ban wave regarding the double AP event). Sooo, I’m not too sure now if we were mopped up legit. Or, if it was in fact something else at play here.

      This was the main reason I left Vivec. I saw too much like this example that didn’t add up quite right.

      I suppose it could be some bugged out armor setup, but I’ll say this. When ten solid players are beating on me plus resource poisions, it’s going to be a quick ending.

      Same here. And I PvP on a DK as well (MagDK). I look at these players sometimes who can have 28k-30k health, have over 2.3k resource regeneration, manage to hit over 3k SD or WD, and it blows my mind. It really does. Because as I mentioned previously, usually there is a trade off that must occur.

      For example, on my MagDK I run: 5pcs. Alteration Mastery, 5pcs. Seducer (all heavy), 2pcs. Grothdarr (in medium and light, but sometimes Blood Spawn), and a Lightning Staff on my back bar (Alteration Mastery as well). And while it does give absolutely amazing sustain, I don’t have over 2k SD (non-buffed). But, that is the trade-off. To sacrifice power for solid sustain and defense. You know? There’s a give and take thing going on. Then I come across another MagDK who mood me up, and I ask to see their character sheets... And I see them with just about the same amount of regeneration as me (sometimes more), around 2.5k SD (non-buffed), and usually with more health than me. And they’re more tanky than me 9x out of 10. Mind you, I’m no pushover. I sit at 28k health, about 1.6k or 1.8k SD, about 1.8k magicka regeneration, and crit resistance over 2k (like 2.1k or 2.2k). I’m in all heavy armor and previoisly mentioned, and have sturdy on 3 pieces of gear. Plus 1 shield play jewelry enchantment. So yes, I’m a “block caster” and “perma-blocker”. But still, I get steamrolled by some of these fellows. And it is as if I have no resistances and am not blocking at all. It’s the craziest thing.

      And it’s not always that this happens, but usually up against people who are apart of the “in circle” of Cyrodiil’s PvP. You know. The leaderboard crowd, and ones who dictate who gets emperor and don’t. The folks who decide which alliance wins and loses campaigns (yes this exists, as PS4-NA Vivec is pure politics). It’s never against the average player, and regular Joe when I experience these crushing losses. In fact, I win most of those fights from CC pressure and block casting. But these other players? N’ah. I can’t even dent them it feels like. The players which have MagBlades that sit at around 20k HP (if that), but I can never land a blow on or scratch their shields. Yet, they can absolutely annihilate me without any issues. The folks who have StamWardens and StamPlars can get near 5k WD on their character sheets, all the while sitting at around 30k Health. You know?
      Edited by Ch4mpTW on December 28, 2017 9:40PM
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