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  • Maulkin
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    Speaking of farming Rattlecage, what's the best way to reset the dungeon after you've killed the first boss?
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  • Vaoh
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Speaking of farming Rattlecage, what's the best way to reset the dungeon after you've killed the first boss?

    Whenever I farm gear (dungeon sets or Skyreach xp farm), I first gather everyone outside the dungeon door.

    We walk in, kill the boss, and then disband/regroup inside the dungeon. The game ports everyone out and since you already regrouped everyone while in the dungeon, you can all just walk in again to a reset instance. Wastes no time at all :)
  • Maulkin
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Speaking of farming Rattlecage, what's the best way to reset the dungeon after you've killed the first boss?

    Whenever I farm gear (dungeon sets or Skyreach xp farm), I first gather everyone outside the dungeon door.

    We walk in, kill the boss, and then disband/regroup inside the dungeon. The game ports everyone out and since you already regrouped everyone while in the dungeon, you can all just walk in again to a reset instance. Wastes no time at all :)

    Yeah I do that too when group farming. Easy. But what about when farming solo? Obviously simply leaving the dungeon does not do it.

    What I've done so far is, kill the first boss, leave the dungeon, re-enter in normal mode and do the first boss again, exit, switch back to vet, repeat... That sometimes works, some times it doesn't.

    I think there's a timer. You get the same issue if you try to farm vMA first boss for example.

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  • Vaoh
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Speaking of farming Rattlecage, what's the best way to reset the dungeon after you've killed the first boss?

    Whenever I farm gear (dungeon sets or Skyreach xp farm), I first gather everyone outside the dungeon door.

    We walk in, kill the boss, and then disband/regroup inside the dungeon. The game ports everyone out and since you already regrouped everyone while in the dungeon, you can all just walk in again to a reset instance. Wastes no time at all :)

    Yeah I do that too when group farming. Easy. But what about when farming solo? Obviously simply leaving the dungeon does not do it.

    What I've done so far is, kill the first boss, leave the dungeon, re-enter in normal mode and do the first boss again, exit, switch back to vet, repeat... That sometimes works, some times it doesn't.

    I think there's a timer. You get the same issue if you try to farm vMA first boss for example.

    Yup the way you’re currently doing it is the fastest I know of.

    I wish there was simply an instance reset button that kicks you out of the current instance when you use it. Would simplify all of it :neutral:
  • Lord_Etrigan
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    Been farming last night and I got tell you that if I get one more Oblivion’s Edge armour piece……Let’s just say my vocabulary has increased dramatically in just a few hours.

    Need swords, resto and Necklace so back to farming as soon as I get home.
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  • kaithuzar
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    If I was building a magplar & going to use rattlecage, I would'nt pair it with julianos.
    I think it's better paired with Kagnerac's as you get spell damage & some magic recovery, or transmutation if you want to be more defensive.
    Use slimecraw monster for that permenant 8% extra damage!
    Put breath of life on both bars & go duel swords front bar & sword & board back bar.
    This is pretty much a great build but if you need more sustain try 1 cost reduction on jewelry.
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    If I was building a magplar & going to use rattlecage, I would'nt pair it with julianos.
    I think it's better paired with Kagnerac's as you get spell damage & some magic recovery, or transmutation if you want to be more defensive.
    Use magelight on your front bar & use the 5 light 1m 1h or 5 light 2h; that'll max your crit.
    Use slimecraw monster for that permenant 8% extra damage!
    Put breath of life on both bars & go duel swords front bar & sword & board back bar.
    This is pretty much a great build but if you need more sustain try 1 cost reduction on jewelry.
    Edited by kaithuzar on December 29, 2017 8:27AM
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  • Undefwun
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    Great thread! Been theory crafting something with this set for a bit and this has given me a bit of confidence that ppl better than me are thinking along similar lines...
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  • Minno
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Speaking of farming Rattlecage, what's the best way to reset the dungeon after you've killed the first boss?

    Whenever I farm gear (dungeon sets or Skyreach xp farm), I first gather everyone outside the dungeon door.

    We walk in, kill the boss, and then disband/regroup inside the dungeon. The game ports everyone out and since you already regrouped everyone while in the dungeon, you can all just walk in again to a reset instance. Wastes no time at all :)

    Yeah I do that too when group farming. Easy. But what about when farming solo? Obviously simply leaving the dungeon does not do it.

    What I've done so far is, kill the first boss, leave the dungeon, re-enter in normal mode and do the first boss again, exit, switch back to vet, repeat... That sometimes works, some times it doesn't.

    I think there's a timer. You get the same issue if you try to farm vMA first boss for example.

    Yup the way you’re currently doing it is the fastest I know of.

    I wish there was simply an instance reset button that kicks you out of the current instance when you use it. Would simplify all of it :neutral:

    Bringing trusted friends is the best way. Everyone can trade off the pieces they already have making it actually 4x the chance to get the pieces you need each run
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  • Maulkin
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    Been farming last night and I got tell you that if I get one more Oblivion’s Edge armour piece……Let’s just say my vocabulary has increased dramatically in just a few hours.

    Need swords, resto and Necklace so back to farming as soon as I get home.

    My farming pattern has been alternating between normal and vet mode (stopping at first boss). Normal for the weapons, vet for the purple jewellery off the Cursed One.

    I've gotten [snip] all weapons from the normal mode, but I've dropped blue arcane jewellery from the Cursed One.Never once a purple jewel.

    Still need inferno staff, swords and all the the jewels in purple. Fml.
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  • Maulkin
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    Minno wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Speaking of farming Rattlecage, what's the best way to reset the dungeon after you've killed the first boss?

    Whenever I farm gear (dungeon sets or Skyreach xp farm), I first gather everyone outside the dungeon door.

    We walk in, kill the boss, and then disband/regroup inside the dungeon. The game ports everyone out and since you already regrouped everyone while in the dungeon, you can all just walk in again to a reset instance. Wastes no time at all :)

    Yeah I do that too when group farming. Easy. But what about when farming solo? Obviously simply leaving the dungeon does not do it.

    What I've done so far is, kill the first boss, leave the dungeon, re-enter in normal mode and do the first boss again, exit, switch back to vet, repeat... That sometimes works, some times it doesn't.

    I think there's a timer. You get the same issue if you try to farm vMA first boss for example.

    Yup the way you’re currently doing it is the fastest I know of.

    I wish there was simply an instance reset button that kicks you out of the current instance when you use it. Would simplify all of it :neutral:

    Bringing trusted friends is the best way. Everyone can trade off the pieces they already have making it actually 4x the chance to get the pieces you need each run

    I'd rather bring enemies. I'd never drag friends through that mindless grind.
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  • exeeter702
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    This set is okay, but there are better options than Rattlecage. On a Nightblade Sap Essence is a great AoE skill that gives major sorcery with a decent heal.

    I see this sentiment often. The strength in rattlecage and sets like it is not access to the buff, its bar / pot freedom. Destro resto magblades in pvp have very little use for sap essense. And in this patch especially with the unreliability of shadow image and cloak many counters, mobility and kiting ability are severely gimped which further reinforces the likely reliance on imov pots. If mobility and kiting arent an issue, resources will be and tri pots are the second best thing, especially on an argonian. Entropy however does have a strong case. Anothet dot for skoria, an additional hot that works well with siphoning attacks via degeneration (this is grossly underrated) or increased healing ward strength via structured and increased max mag. Otherwise rattlecage makes for a very solid choice as it potentially allows space for major breach, impale or any othet critical skill that simply cant fit on the bar otherwise.

    Argonian magblade 5 heavy front bar rattle back bar transmutation is incredibly resilient.

    Edited by exeeter702 on December 30, 2017 6:45PM
  • Animus-ESO
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    For a pve magica Templar tank/dps hybrid I’ve been toying for while with Rattle cage, spinners, 1 piece kena and apprentice. Using spell power potions gets expensive, the guild skill can be a bit clunky and there are a whole bag of skills I would rather have

    Name three.

    Did we have a bad Christmas perhaps? :/

    Lol

    Try about half the Templar skills for a start :D

    Nice deflection. Give me your bars and then Name three skills that are better them entropy for a temp.

    Purifying light, Total dark, Dark flare, Vampires bane, Repentance.... I could go on.
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  • Vapirko
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    DW/SB is the Templar meta. Resto back bar is also fine, but since your heals are so strong already it’s not really necessary and SB provides so much more defense. If you’re talking about pvp definitely don’t pair it with Julianos. Kags could be fine but maybe lacking some sustain. If you’re going light armor then wizards riposte. If you’re going heavy seducer is great. The 8% cost reduction really helps out since you’re missing the recovery from light armor. If you’re playing a ranged magplar which is possible but not the best imo since your buffs require you to be stationary, then rattlecage isn’t the best and you’re much better off learning how to weave in degeneration.
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    For a pve magica Templar tank/dps hybrid I’ve been toying for while with Rattle cage, spinners, 1 piece kena and apprentice. Using spell power potions gets expensive, the guild skill can be a bit clunky and there are a whole bag of skills I would rather have

    Name three.

    Did we have a bad Christmas perhaps? :/

    Lol

    Try about half the Templar skills for a start :D

    Nice deflection. Give me your bars and then Name three skills that are better them entropy for a temp.

    Purifying light, Total dark, Dark flare, Vampires bane, Repentance.... I could go on.

    All those would be on your bar regardless, Give me the 9 other skills on your bar, then give me the skills that you slot over entropy. This is not that hard man, why are you making it difficult.
  • Akinos
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    For a pve magica Templar tank/dps hybrid I’ve been toying for while with Rattle cage, spinners, 1 piece kena and apprentice. Using spell power potions gets expensive, the guild skill can be a bit clunky and there are a whole bag of skills I would rather have

    Name three.

    For PvP you could run rearming trap, prox det, weakness to elements, pierce armor, rapid regen/mutagen, low slash, reverb bash, unstable core, plenty of skills to choose from once entropy is off the bar.
    Edited by Akinos on December 31, 2017 6:33AM
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  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Akinos wrote: »
    For a pve magica Templar tank/dps hybrid I’ve been toying for while with Rattle cage, spinners, 1 piece kena and apprentice. Using spell power potions gets expensive, the guild skill can be a bit clunky and there are a whole bag of skills I would rather have

    Name three.

    For PvP you could run rearming trap, prox det, weakness to elements, pierce armor, rapid regen/mutagen, low slash, reverb bash, unstable core, plenty of skills to choose from once entropy is off the bar.

    Oh my God. What is so hard. Give my 2 bars. 5 skills on one. Four skills on the other. Then tell me why entropy, is not granted that spot. Simple.
    Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on December 31, 2017 8:06AM
  • Animus-ESO
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    For a pve magica Templar tank/dps hybrid I’ve been toying for while with Rattle cage, spinners, 1 piece kena and apprentice. Using spell power potions gets expensive, the guild skill can be a bit clunky and there are a whole bag of skills I would rather have

    Name three.

    Did we have a bad Christmas perhaps? :/

    Lol

    Try about half the Templar skills for a start :D

    Nice deflection. Give me your bars and then Name three skills that are better them entropy for a temp.

    Purifying light, Total dark, Dark flare, Vampires bane, Repentance.... I could go on.

    All those would be on your bar regardless, Give me the 9 other skills on your bar, then give me the skills that you slot over entropy. This is not that hard man, why are you making it difficult.

    My two bars.
    D/W : [1] repentance [2] Aurora Javelin [3] Vampires bane [4] Puncturing Sweep [5] Radiant Glory(pve) or dark flare(pvp)
    S&B : [1] Mist form [2] Extended ritual [3] Honor the dead [4] Purifying light [5] Rune Focus


    I could never for the life of me ever justify using entropy especially on a Templar. If i'm not using rattle cage. Ill just use spell power pots. I mean seriously, if I wasn't using mist form for some masochistic reason in pvp Id run total dark. Everything else in this kit is --ESSENTIAL-- for templar in open world pvp. Repentance most of all for sustain. Can't be running out of stam on the battlefield or your ded + its a free cast heal.
    Edited by Animus-ESO on December 31, 2017 11:40AM
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  • Akinos
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    Akinos wrote: »
    For a pve magica Templar tank/dps hybrid I’ve been toying for while with Rattle cage, spinners, 1 piece kena and apprentice. Using spell power potions gets expensive, the guild skill can be a bit clunky and there are a whole bag of skills I would rather have

    Name three.

    For PvP you could run rearming trap, prox det, weakness to elements, pierce armor, rapid regen/mutagen, low slash, reverb bash, unstable core, plenty of skills to choose from once entropy is off the bar.

    Oh my God. What is so hard. Give my 2 bars. 5 skills on one. Four skills on the other. Then tell me why entropy, is not granted that spot. Simple.

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    With Rattlecage I can use rearming trap, which gives minor force and another CC. Which is huge in pvp for a magplar.



    Try having a lil less attitude in your posts, people might be more willing to answer you then. Just a thought :)
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  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Akinos wrote: »
    Akinos wrote: »
    For a pve magica Templar tank/dps hybrid I’ve been toying for while with Rattle cage, spinners, 1 piece kena and apprentice. Using spell power potions gets expensive, the guild skill can be a bit clunky and there are a whole bag of skills I would rather have

    Name three.

    For PvP you could run rearming trap, prox det, weakness to elements, pierce armor, rapid regen/mutagen, low slash, reverb bash, unstable core, plenty of skills to choose from once entropy is off the bar.

    Oh my God. What is so hard. Give my 2 bars. 5 skills on one. Four skills on the other. Then tell me why entropy, is not granted that spot. Simple.

    6e75hoP2QxGXZ6bo_h__HA.jpeg
    With Rattlecage I can use rearming trap, which gives minor force and another CC. Which is huge in pvp for a magplar.



    Try having a lil less attitude in your posts, people might be more willing to answer you then. Just a thought :)

    You run rattle cage ? You must put a lot of weight on rearming trap. Trap is definitely not worth a 2nd 5pc set to me.
  • Akinos
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    Akinos wrote: »
    Akinos wrote: »
    For a pve magica Templar tank/dps hybrid I’ve been toying for while with Rattle cage, spinners, 1 piece kena and apprentice. Using spell power potions gets expensive, the guild skill can be a bit clunky and there are a whole bag of skills I would rather have

    Name three.

    For PvP you could run rearming trap, prox det, weakness to elements, pierce armor, rapid regen/mutagen, low slash, reverb bash, unstable core, plenty of skills to choose from once entropy is off the bar.

    Oh my God. What is so hard. Give my 2 bars. 5 skills on one. Four skills on the other. Then tell me why entropy, is not granted that spot. Simple.

    6e75hoP2QxGXZ6bo_h__HA.jpeg
    With Rattlecage I can use rearming trap, which gives minor force and another CC. Which is huge in pvp for a magplar.



    Try having a lil less attitude in your posts, people might be more willing to answer you then. Just a thought :)

    You run rattle cage ? You must put a lot of weight on rearming trap. Trap is definitely not worth a 2nd 5pc set to me.

    I am testing a new build with rattlecage, it's working great. Trap is amazing because not only does it boost your crit damage, but people don't expect or notice a trap on the ground, so easy to get people to walk into it, get immobilized, , get a reflecting light and 2 or 3 puncturing sweeps in, then vamp drain to stun into meteor.
    Edited by Akinos on January 1, 2018 1:08AM
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  • GrigorijMalahevich
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    The set bonus and the armor weight are taken separately by the system. Just like what @Beardimus and @Marlew have mentioned.

    For Rattlecage I personally like to run heavy chest, jewelry (I use unique named jewelry which is arcane) and destro staff for the set bonus with Julianos in 1 medium legs and 4 light with light Molag Kena shoulder or head.

    This set is okay, but there are better options than Rattlecage. On a Nightblade Sap Essence is a great AoE skill that gives major sorcery with a decent heal.

    I would like to know how you are using this set, maybe I can find another flavor that I could enjoy.

    Cheers.

    Thanks for the clarification guys,

    I’m all about burst damage In PVP as a duel wields mag sorc, so in my quest for more DPS I have been theory crafting in the ESO build editor.

    Currently I sport 5 Shackle and 5 warmaiden with Chokehorn for regen and that cool 23k heal that saved my behind a couple of times lol.(All items gold except for monster set)
    1M/1H/5L

    Unbuffed my spell damage is at +/-2400 and buffed I get almost 3300 (entropy front, and spell damage glyph on resto staff)

    Max magic 39800 and magic regen 1700 with Empowered ward 1900
    Mundus: Apprentice
    Food: Tri

    Theory crafting with just rattle jewellery and swords gets me 2932 spell damage and that’s without any other sets or mundus, now add Julianos into the mix and you looking at 3291 unbuffed spell damage and that’s already an increase of 359 hence my interest in the set.

    Quite low stats brother... for dual wield magsorc in pvp you are better of maxing out magicka not spell damage and having 3500 spell damage with 39000 magicka - with no sustain that is just useless. You are better of running overload build with that... Too weak shields.

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    Empowered ward in PvP is just a waste of slot, especially with such low magicka...
    Edited by GrigorijMalahevich on December 31, 2017 8:08PM
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  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Akinos wrote: »
    Akinos wrote: »
    For a pve magica Templar tank/dps hybrid I’ve been toying for while with Rattle cage, spinners, 1 piece kena and apprentice. Using spell power potions gets expensive, the guild skill can be a bit clunky and there are a whole bag of skills I would rather have

    Name three.

    For PvP you could run rearming trap, prox det, weakness to elements, pierce armor, rapid regen/mutagen, low slash, reverb bash, unstable core, plenty of skills to choose from once entropy is off the bar.

    Oh my God. What is so hard. Give my 2 bars. 5 skills on one. Four skills on the other. Then tell me why entropy, is not granted that spot. Simple.

    6e75hoP2QxGXZ6bo_h__HA.jpeg
    With Rattlecage I can use rearming trap, which gives minor force and another CC. Which is huge in pvp for a magplar.



    Try having a lil less attitude in your posts, people might be more willing to answer you then. Just a thought :)

    K.

    I have 75+ days on my mag temp and have never been a vamp. I would not have mist form. That would never be on my bar.

    You guys are like @TheDoomsdayMonster with the combat physician set. Rattle is a Garbo set. Nothing you have said has convinced me. But at least you followed the actual question this time. Good work.

    \/ this guy too. Good try.

    For a pve magica Templar tank/dps hybrid I’ve been toying for while with Rattle cage, spinners, 1 piece kena and apprentice. Using spell power potions gets expensive, the guild skill can be a bit clunky and there are a whole bag of skills I would rather have

    Name three.

    Did we have a bad Christmas perhaps? :/

    Lol

    Try about half the Templar skills for a start :D

    Nice deflection. Give me your bars and then Name three skills that are better them entropy for a temp.

    Purifying light, Total dark, Dark flare, Vampires bane, Repentance.... I could go on.

    All those would be on your bar regardless, Give me the 9 other skills on your bar, then give me the skills that you slot over entropy. This is not that hard man, why are you making it difficult.

    My two bars.
    D/W : [1] repentance [2] Aurora Javelin [3] Vampires bane [4] Puncturing Sweep [5] Radiant Glory(pve) or dark flare(pvp)
    S&B : [1] Mist form [2] Extended ritual [3] Honor the dead [4] Purifying light [5] Rune Focus


    I could never for the life of me ever justify using entropy especially on a Templar. If i'm not using rattle cage. Ill just use spell power pots. I mean seriously, if I wasn't using mist form for some masochistic reason in pvp Id run total dark. Everything else in this kit is --ESSENTIAL-- for templar in open world pvp. Repentance most of all for sustain. Can't be running out of stam on the battlefield or your ded + its a free cast heal.

    Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on January 1, 2018 9:55AM
  • Maulkin
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    I also think it’s a good set for front barring. Albeit from a NB rather than a Templar PoV. There’s many skills I’d rather take instead of Entropy. Like Impale or Siphoning Attacks on a ranged build. Or Swallow Soul / Magelight on a melee build.

    It’s not a BiS set, but a very strong one nonetheless and far from garbage. If only the first bonus was Magicka instead of Health
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  • Vaoh
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    Rattlecage is an interesting set. I always find that there are more useful ways to build than by using it though.

    Still, Rattlecage is far better on Templar than other classes. It’s a solid set choice.
  • Animus-ESO
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    Akinos wrote: »
    Akinos wrote: »
    For a pve magica Templar tank/dps hybrid I’ve been toying for while with Rattle cage, spinners, 1 piece kena and apprentice. Using spell power potions gets expensive, the guild skill can be a bit clunky and there are a whole bag of skills I would rather have

    Name three.

    For PvP you could run rearming trap, prox det, weakness to elements, pierce armor, rapid regen/mutagen, low slash, reverb bash, unstable core, plenty of skills to choose from once entropy is off the bar.

    Oh my God. What is so hard. Give my 2 bars. 5 skills on one. Four skills on the other. Then tell me why entropy, is not granted that spot. Simple.

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    With Rattlecage I can use rearming trap, which gives minor force and another CC. Which is huge in pvp for a magplar.



    Try having a lil less attitude in your posts, people might be more willing to answer you then. Just a thought :)

    K.

    I have 75+ days on my mag temp and have never been a vamp. I would not have mist form. That would never be on my bar.

    You guys are like @TheDoomsdayMonster with the combat physician set. Rattle is a Garbo set. Nothing you have said has convinced me. But at least you followed the actual question this time. Good work.

    \/ this guy too. Good try.

    For a pve magica Templar tank/dps hybrid I’ve been toying for while with Rattle cage, spinners, 1 piece kena and apprentice. Using spell power potions gets expensive, the guild skill can be a bit clunky and there are a whole bag of skills I would rather have

    Name three.

    Did we have a bad Christmas perhaps? :/

    Lol

    Try about half the Templar skills for a start :D

    Nice deflection. Give me your bars and then Name three skills that are better them entropy for a temp.

    Purifying light, Total dark, Dark flare, Vampires bane, Repentance.... I could go on.

    All those would be on your bar regardless, Give me the 9 other skills on your bar, then give me the skills that you slot over entropy. This is not that hard man, why are you making it difficult.

    My two bars.
    D/W : [1] repentance [2] Aurora Javelin [3] Vampires bane [4] Puncturing Sweep [5] Radiant Glory(pve) or dark flare(pvp)
    S&B : [1] Mist form [2] Extended ritual [3] Honor the dead [4] Purifying light [5] Rune Focus


    I could never for the life of me ever justify using entropy especially on a Templar. If i'm not using rattle cage. Ill just use spell power pots. I mean seriously, if I wasn't using mist form for some masochistic reason in pvp Id run total dark. Everything else in this kit is --ESSENTIAL-- for templar in open world pvp. Repentance most of all for sustain. Can't be running out of stam on the battlefield or your ded + its a free cast heal.

    No mist form?! I'm dieing laughing. You must sit in storm haven dueling all day. Because if your running around cyro with no mist form your gonna get zerged down hard dude. Magplar simply doesn't have the jukes to be getting rid of snares. You pretty much lost all credibility in my eyes my lord. ahhahaha
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  • Lord_Etrigan
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    The set bonus and the armor weight are taken separately by the system. Just like what @Beardimus and @Marlew have mentioned.

    For Rattlecage I personally like to run heavy chest, jewelry (I use unique named jewelry which is arcane) and destro staff for the set bonus with Julianos in 1 medium legs and 4 light with light Molag Kena shoulder or head.

    This set is okay, but there are better options than Rattlecage. On a Nightblade Sap Essence is a great AoE skill that gives major sorcery with a decent heal.

    I would like to know how you are using this set, maybe I can find another flavor that I could enjoy.

    Cheers.

    Thanks for the clarification guys,

    I’m all about burst damage In PVP as a duel wields mag sorc, so in my quest for more DPS I have been theory crafting in the ESO build editor.

    Currently I sport 5 Shackle and 5 warmaiden with Chokehorn for regen and that cool 23k heal that saved my behind a couple of times lol.(All items gold except for monster set)
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    Unbuffed my spell damage is at +/-2400 and buffed I get almost 3300 (entropy front, and spell damage glyph on resto staff)

    Max magic 39800 and magic regen 1700 with Empowered ward 1900
    Mundus: Apprentice
    Food: Tri

    Theory crafting with just rattle jewellery and swords gets me 2932 spell damage and that’s without any other sets or mundus, now add Julianos into the mix and you looking at 3291 unbuffed spell damage and that’s already an increase of 359 hence my interest in the set.

    Quite low stats brother... for dual wield magsorc in pvp you are better of maxing out magicka not spell damage and having 3500 spell damage with 39000 magicka - with no sustain that is just useless. You are better of running overload build with that... Too weak shields.

    Edit:
    Empowered ward in PvP is just a waste of slot, especially with such low magicka...

    Hi, thanks for the feedback.
    What would you suggest to optimise for best results on duel wield.
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    Sharp main sword, infused offhand maybe lightning damage on one, not sure about the other? Maybe infused sword on back bar with spell damage enchant & impen/infused shield w/tri-stat armor glyph
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  • Lord_Etrigan
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    kaithuzar wrote: »
    Sharp main sword, infused offhand maybe lightning damage on one, not sure about the other? Maybe infused sword on back bar with spell damage enchant & impen/infused shield w/tri-stat armor glyph

    Hi,

    What would the reason be for s/b on back over resto or lightning staff?
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    Nyssa al Ghul: PVP Nightblade Wood Elf (Ganker)
    Lady-Death : PVP High Elf Sorcerer (8 x Campaigns Former Empress and Grand Warlord) Retired:(
    Achmed-Silence I keel you: PVP Dark Elf Nightblade (Suicide Bomber)
    I'm with stupid: PVP Argonian Magic Temp (Group support and healer).

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    Radiant oppression, rune focus, honor the dead, aurora javelin, dark flare.

    Sweeps, purifying light, ritual of ret, unstable core, reflective light.

    Id take all those over entropy.
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