Only armour counts as armour weight. So yes by having 3 jewelry and two swords you get the 5pc bonus and could still wear all light armour.

Peeps may jump on here to say that sets not the best, as other sources of Maj Sorc, but i say do what you want, if saving a skill slot or pots is your aim etc

I had a good run with this on my magplar along with seducer and skoria in pvp. I think it’s good for melee builds and specifically magplars because we lack a class skil that provides major sorcery. The mages guild skill felt clunky to me at close range. In PvE it’s not really worth it because it’s too easy to weave in a skill that provides major sorcery because combat is much slower and if you want to maximize dps you’re going to be using a ranged build anyway. In groups someone is likely providing that buff anyway. If you do farm it, keep in mind that first boss (the ghost) drops unique jewlery that comes in arcane as apposed to normal jewelry that is healthy.

The_Protagonist wrote: »

The set bonus and the armor weight are taken separately by the system. Just like what @Beardimus and @Marlew have mentioned.

For Rattlecage I personally like to run heavy chest, jewelry (I use unique named jewelry which is arcane) and destro staff for the set bonus with Julianos in 1 medium legs and 4 light with light Molag Kena shoulder or head.

This set is okay, but there are better options than Rattlecage. On a Nightblade Sap Essence is a great AoE skill that gives major sorcery with a decent heal.

I would like to know how you are using this set, maybe I can find another flavor that I could enjoy.

Cheers.

Thanks for the clarification guys,

I’m all about burst damage In PVP as a duel wields mag sorc, so in my quest for more DPS I have been theory crafting in the ESO build editor.

Currently I sport 5 Shackle and 5 warmaiden with Chokehorn for regen and that cool 23k heal that saved my behind a couple of times lol.(All items gold except for monster set)
1M/1H/5L

Unbuffed my spell damage is at +/-2400 and buffed I get almost 3300 (entropy front, and spell damage glyph on resto staff)

Max magic 39800 and magic regen 1700 with Empowered ward 1900
Mundus: Apprentice
Food: Tri

Theory crafting with just rattle jewellery and swords gets me 2932 spell damage and that’s without any other sets or mundus, now add Julianos into the mix and you looking at 3291 unbuffed spell damage and that’s already an increase of 359 hence my interest in the set.

Lord_Etrigan wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

The set bonus and the armor weight are taken separately by the system. Just like what @Beardimus and @Marlew have mentioned.

For Rattlecage I personally like to run heavy chest, jewelry (I use unique named jewelry which is arcane) and destro staff for the set bonus with Julianos in 1 medium legs and 4 light with light Molag Kena shoulder or head.

This set is okay, but there are better options than Rattlecage. On a Nightblade Sap Essence is a great AoE skill that gives major sorcery with a decent heal.

I would like to know how you are using this set, maybe I can find another flavor that I could enjoy.

Cheers.

Thanks for the clarification guys,

I’m all about burst damage In PVP as a duel wields mag sorc, so in my quest for more DPS I have been theory crafting in the ESO build editor.

Currently I sport 5 Shackle and 5 warmaiden with Chokehorn for regen and that cool 23k heal that saved my behind a couple of times lol.(All items gold except for monster set)
1M/1H/5L

Unbuffed my spell damage is at +/-2400 and buffed I get almost 3300 (entropy front, and spell damage glyph on resto staff)

Max magic 39800 and magic regen 1700 with Empowered ward 1900
Mundus: Apprentice
Food: Tri

Theory crafting with just rattle jewellery and swords gets me 2932 spell damage and that’s without any other sets or mundus, now add Julianos into the mix and you looking at 3291 unbuffed spell damage and that’s already an increase of 359 hence my interest in the set.

PS: Adding Apprentice pushes spell damage to 3640 unbuffed.

For a pve magica Templar tank/dps hybrid I’ve been toying for while with Rattle cage, spinners, 1 piece kena and apprentice. Using spell power potions gets expensive, the guild skill can be a bit clunky and there are a whole bag of skills I would rather have

Maulkin wrote: »

I’m toying with the idea of using Rattlecage on my Mageblade atm, because I really could use an extra slot and not have to slot entropy, but there’s no chance I’m using the jewellery. I’d rather go 5-heavy which suits me fine since I’m building a melee build and dislike shield stacking like a Sorc to survive.

The jewellery only comes with Healthy traits and bear in mind the 2-piece set bonus of Rattle is also Max HP. So you are surrendering a lot of Magicka for HP that you don’t necessarily need, well over 4K of it once the racial, class and CP passives are taken into account. So I’d rather put it on the body and use Hakeijos on the big pieces for more way more total stats.

Hi,
The unique pieces Forbidden Jewels and Gem of Curses comes in arcane

Lord_Etrigan wrote: »

Maulkin wrote: »

I’m toying with the idea of using Rattlecage on my Mageblade atm, because I really could use an extra slot and not have to slot entropy, but there’s no chance I’m using the jewellery. I’d rather go 5-heavy which suits me fine since I’m building a melee build and dislike shield stacking like a Sorc to survive.

The jewellery only comes with Healthy traits and bear in mind the 2-piece set bonus of Rattle is also Max HP. So you are surrendering a lot of Magicka for HP that you don’t necessarily need, well over 4K of it once the racial, class and CP passives are taken into account. So I’d rather put it on the body and use Hakeijos on the big pieces for more way more total stats.

Hi,
The unique pieces Forbidden Jewels and Gem of Curses comes in arcane

You're blowing my mind man, you're blowing my mind.

Is that from the first boss that can be farmed solo on a mageblade too?

Lord_Etrigan wrote: »

Maulkin wrote: »

Lord_Etrigan wrote: »

Maulkin wrote: »

I’m toying with the idea of using Rattlecage on my Mageblade atm, because I really could use an extra slot and not have to slot entropy, but there’s no chance I’m using the jewellery. I’d rather go 5-heavy which suits me fine since I’m building a melee build and dislike shield stacking like a Sorc to survive.

The jewellery only comes with Healthy traits and bear in mind the 2-piece set bonus of Rattle is also Max HP. So you are surrendering a lot of Magicka for HP that you don’t necessarily need, well over 4K of it once the racial, class and CP passives are taken into account. So I’d rather put it on the body and use Hakeijos on the big pieces for more way more total stats.

Hi,
The unique pieces Forbidden Jewels and Gem of Curses comes in arcane

You're blowing my mind man, you're blowing my mind.

Is that from the first boss that can be farmed solo on a mageblade too?

Lol, the Forbidden jewels and Gems of Curses drops at the Cursed One

The Cursed One is the first boss, the ghost that does the Drain Life attack. If I recall correctly, you can cloak all the way to him avoid all other mobs. Only problem is you cna't use Wall of Elements or Path because the DoTs will kill you when he activates Drain Life but if you use only 1 DoT (Cripple) you can stop DPS during the drain. He's *** easy to solo.

Solo farming, here I come!

Maulkin wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Maulkin wrote: »

Lord_Etrigan wrote: »

Maulkin wrote: »

I’m toying with the idea of using Rattlecage on my Mageblade atm, because I really could use an extra slot and not have to slot entropy, but there’s no chance I’m using the jewellery. I’d rather go 5-heavy which suits me fine since I’m building a melee build and dislike shield stacking like a Sorc to survive.

The jewellery only comes with Healthy traits and bear in mind the 2-piece set bonus of Rattle is also Max HP. So you are surrendering a lot of Magicka for HP that you don’t necessarily need, well over 4K of it once the racial, class and CP passives are taken into account. So I’d rather put it on the body and use Hakeijos on the big pieces for more way more total stats.

Hi,
The unique pieces Forbidden Jewels and Gem of Curses comes in arcane

You're blowing my mind man, you're blowing my mind.

Is that from the first boss that can be farmed solo on a mageblade too?

Both unique ones drop from first boss. Easiest farm in the game

True, true. The resto/inferno/swords though are another matter

Swords? I think they don't exist! LOL I was lucky to find resto/inferno and shock staves in bad traits that I had to transmute, I found a mace and 2H a long time ago, but that is it, no swords, maybe because the game knew I was looking for them.

Lord_Etrigan wrote: »

Rattlecage

This may be a silly question, but does 2x swords and 3x jewellery from Rattle cage count as 5x heavy or does it have to be 5x armour on the body.

No

Qbiken wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Maulkin wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Maulkin wrote: »

Lord_Etrigan wrote: »

Maulkin wrote: »

I’m toying with the idea of using Rattlecage on my Mageblade atm, because I really could use an extra slot and not have to slot entropy, but there’s no chance I’m using the jewellery. I’d rather go 5-heavy which suits me fine since I’m building a melee build and dislike shield stacking like a Sorc to survive.

The jewellery only comes with Healthy traits and bear in mind the 2-piece set bonus of Rattle is also Max HP. So you are surrendering a lot of Magicka for HP that you don’t necessarily need, well over 4K of it once the racial, class and CP passives are taken into account. So I’d rather put it on the body and use Hakeijos on the big pieces for more way more total stats.

Hi,
The unique pieces Forbidden Jewels and Gem of Curses comes in arcane

You're blowing my mind man, you're blowing my mind.

Is that from the first boss that can be farmed solo on a mageblade too?

Both unique ones drop from first boss. Easiest farm in the game

True, true. The resto/inferno/swords though are another matter

Swords? I think they don't exist! LOL I was lucky to find resto/inferno and shock staves in bad traits that I had to transmute, I found a mace and 2H a long time ago, but that is it, no swords, maybe because the game knew I was looking for them.

There´s a unique sword dropping from the 2nd last boss. The sword is called: "Omen´s Edge" and comes in sharpened.

Drops from Iskra the Omen

Qbiken wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Maulkin wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Maulkin wrote: »

Lord_Etrigan wrote: »

Maulkin wrote: »

I’m toying with the idea of using Rattlecage on my Mageblade atm, because I really could use an extra slot and not have to slot entropy, but there’s no chance I’m using the jewellery. I’d rather go 5-heavy which suits me fine since I’m building a melee build and dislike shield stacking like a Sorc to survive.

The jewellery only comes with Healthy traits and bear in mind the 2-piece set bonus of Rattle is also Max HP. So you are surrendering a lot of Magicka for HP that you don’t necessarily need, well over 4K of it once the racial, class and CP passives are taken into account. So I’d rather put it on the body and use Hakeijos on the big pieces for more way more total stats.

Hi,
The unique pieces Forbidden Jewels and Gem of Curses comes in arcane

You're blowing my mind man, you're blowing my mind.

Is that from the first boss that can be farmed solo on a mageblade too?

Both unique ones drop from first boss. Easiest farm in the game

True, true. The resto/inferno/swords though are another matter

Swords? I think they don't exist! LOL I was lucky to find resto/inferno and shock staves in bad traits that I had to transmute, I found a mace and 2H a long time ago, but that is it, no swords, maybe because the game knew I was looking for them.

There´s a unique sword dropping from the 2nd last boss. The sword is called: "Omen´s Edge" and comes in sharpened.

Thanks, guess I have to go back in there and farm it, I thought that was a two handed sword.

Beardimus wrote: »

@Lord_Etrigan ok cool for the extra info. I'm a loyal DW MagSorc myself not many of us left. All about the burst (CFrag stun loss was a bother!)

You mentioned Entropy however, if you are running that you already have a source of Major Sorcery is all. But i dabbled with this set myself but gave it to my Templar for a while.

Hi,
Was running that on my bar with warmaiden and shackle.

If I’m going to slot rattle and Julio then I will replace entropy with innerlight for the magic and crit increase. (Had to give that up to slot ruin cage)
Ruin cage now has a permanent place on my bar with the nerf to frags