Melee Magic Night Blade

joshhh_nb · December 2017

Sooo, im coming back to eso haven’t played seriously, since basically morrowind. Just wanted to discuss builds surrounding dual wield melee mag blade, ik destro resto is very strong but it’s really not my play style.

Right now I’m thinking:
5x shackle 5x necro and 2bs
But idk if that’s enough damage so I was thinking potentially copying a stam blade style of bone pirate and a high damaging set so potentially, Lich/amber with Julianos/spinner/overwhelming and domi monster set.

I was also wondering, how strong is axiom compared to something like spinners/necro/julianos/ meta shackle breaker? Considering that Axiom adds about 400 spell damage to class abilities?

thankyourat · December 2017

I play 5 necro / 5 shackle/ 2 skoria it's alot of damage you will basically one shot medium and light armor builds with your soul harvest bow combo if skoria procs. I used swallow soul instead of conceal to help with sustain. But I'm sure if you use whichmothers instead of tri stat food sustaining concealed wouldn't be a problem.

I don't play a lot of melee i like how annoying destro resto is to face lol. But what i like about necro on melee builds is if you feel you are dying to much you can always use harness magicka

kaithuzar · December 2017

My suggestion for melee is war maiden. Pair it with whatever i.e.. transmutation, riposte, necro, shackle breaker, amberplasm
Skoria, grothdar, chudan/pirate/kena all strong but maybe melee doesn't have enough dots for skoria?

Lexxypwns · December 2017

For melee, I like to run 2h instead of DW for use of Forward momentum. The only weakness in the NB toolkit is lack of an answer for snare, by adding Forward momentum you can ensure that your mobility cannot be compromised, this is particularly important since shade is non-functional.

Imo you then have a few viable choices for 2h builds.

My favorite is 5 amberplasm - 5 Maiden - 1 Domi. It gives you perfect sustain for both resources and lot's of damage. Spinners is another good choice and more overall damage against people without damage shields
I've also had success with Lich and riposte as back bar sets in 5/5/2 builds. Necro is obviously appealing, but less so while shade is bugged.

Vermintide · December 2017

I'm currently working on a DW build with Fortified Brass armour (5L 2H), War Maiden swords/jewels on front bar, resto backbar, and Grothdarr set.

What would you guys suggest for skill bar setup? Nightblade bars are real hard to balance, especially for non-CP. Please persuade me I can cope without double barring inner light, and let's not even mention shade because a) it's broken and b) I suck too much to use it right when it does work.

Lexxypwns · December 2017

Vermintide wrote: »

I'm currently working on a DW build with Fortified Brass armour (5L 2H), War Maiden swords/jewels on front bar, resto backbar, and Grothdarr set.

What would you guys suggest for skill bar setup? Nightblade bars are real hard to balance, especially for non-CP. Please persuade me I can cope without double barring inner light, and let's not even mention shade because a) it's broken and b) I suck too much to use it right when it does work.

Impreg is always superior to brass. You can even run Impreg + 3 infused(large pieces) and get more defense and higher max stats

Vermintide · December 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Impreg is always superior to brass. You can even run Impreg + 3 infused(large pieces) and get more defense and higher max stats

The main difference being that Brass is a set I can actually get my filthy scrub hands on

kaithuzar · December 2017

It's been a while since I ran a melee setup but I think my bar setup is the same as destro with the exception I swap crushing shock out for concealed strike as my spammable.

Front:
Sap, teleport strike, fear, concealed, mage light; ult can be ice comet, soul harvest, soul tether

Back:
Cloak, either dampen magicka or blessing of restoration, impale, healing ward, assassin's will, ult is light's champion aka rest ult

But if you wanted destro back bar it would look like:
Cloak, refreshing path, impale, swallow soul, double take or wall of elements; ult might be soul siphon or healing bats

StayAlfresco · December 2017

Imo teleport strike is too costly to have on your bars. I always use crippling grasp+cloak as a gap closer.

My bars are: 2h- forward momentum, concealed, cloak, merciless, crippling grasp, incap.
Resto- mirage(the one that grants you speed), degeneration, healing ward, fear, syphoning, Resto ult.

kaithuzar · December 2017

Yea, I've been wanting to make a 2h forward momentum build I just hadn't gotten around to it.
Maybe I would replace teleport strike with forward momentum although I'm not sure if I have room on my back bar for cripple while running a resto staff; if I had to drop something it may be cloak

Datthaw · December 2017

I'm ma throw this in there, keep mistform in mind, you can run it with a dw build. I've been running it on destro resto and forgot how useful it is

Maulkin · December 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

The only weakness in the NB toolkit is lack of an answer for snare

WTB Cloak that removes snares