So I created a very different Sorc...

lynog85 · December 2017

Gameplay looks garbage tbh. Dont need a overload gank to kill a potatoe. Can do that on literally anything.

Drummerx04 · December 2017

Lord-Otto wrote: »

The stun isn't Blob's reasoning. That would indeed be old news.
He claims the arced travel path would delay it so that Blast and Overload hit closer to each other. And that is something no one ever considered. Everyone preferred instant frag damage.

You run into a lot of semantics making that argument, sure you'll one shot more noobs with blast, but even in his own gameplay video blob had to double overload a bunch of those targets. So whether that second overload hitting for 13k+ needs to take out 2k health or 5k health doesn't really change anything. It's the stun that makes it possible.

Everyone preferred instant frag damage because it had a stun and the morph was more universally useful outside of ganking.

Lord-Otto · December 2017

Blobsky wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Not really. First, the Frag hits, then Overload. It is nitpicking for sure, but if it can make a difference...

Only with blast does the overload hit first. This is entirely explained in the video, had you actualy watched it. This ensures Overload is empowered rather than frag. But again, if you are here for anything other than drama, the video is linked to explain that. Since I'm aware that you won't, not have, I don't really know why I bothered writing this

Bro, if you had read your own thread, you would have seen that I have actually been defending your build from Hev and suchlike. And I have indeed watched and liked your video. Admittedly, I have not focused completely on it. Overload gank builds are not something I'd run all day, personally.

I like your build for using Blast instead of Frag and frankly don't care about the rest. I have my own strategies for pseudo-stealth kills and am just happy to see someone bring variety to this class. It really is pidgeonholed overall...
=/

I'll just assume you confused me with Hev, as we are both using "Lord" in our user names. You can differentiate us by our avatars, though. I'm legitimately lit and hotter.
>;3

Merry Christmas!

Lord-Otto · December 2017

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

The stun isn't Blob's reasoning. That would indeed be old news.
He claims the arced travel path would delay it so that Blast and Overload hit closer to each other. And that is something no one ever considered. Everyone preferred instant frag damage.

You run into a lot of semantics making that argument, sure you'll one shot more noobs with blast, but even in his own gameplay video blob had to double overload a bunch of those targets. So whether that second overload hitting for 13k+ needs to take out 2k health or 5k health doesn't really change anything. It's the stun that makes it possible.

Everyone preferred instant frag damage because it had a stun and the morph was more universally useful outside of ganking.

I think it's safe to say that "everyone" wasn't a thing.

Hev preferres weaving OL with a hardcast from Frags, I took the damage of an empowered procced Frag, Blob seems to prefer the Blast timing and empowering Overload instead of Frag.

This isn't semantics or anything and nothing that would scare me in Cyrodiil. He's surely not gonna take keeps with that or get emp or lead his alliance to victory.
It is a fun (subject to subjectivity) build to kill stuff in a different manner. Sometimes you kill even hard stuff, sometimes not. I don't see why any kind of virtual bashing would be appropriate here. Just enjoy that build or don't.

=3

DDuke · December 2017

lynog85 wrote: »

Gameplay looks garbage tbh. Dont need a overload gank to kill a potatoe. Can do that on literally anything.

So what, people should stop experimenting because the current boring meta builds can already kill people?

See a stamblade in Cyrodiil? 90% chance it's a 2H/Bow rollerblade
See a sorc in Cyrodiil? 95% chance it's the usual "spam shields & flame clenches/frag procs & spam execute when people are fighting 16 other enemies" meta build
A mag dk? 80% chance it's a S&B permablock build
Warden? 90% chance for some 2H/S&B DBOS Shalks Rev Slice action

...and so on.

I don't know about you, but I for one am happy that people are bringing up new/less popular (but not necessarily less effective) builds, rather than doing what everyone else is doing.

@Lord_Hev

There's a pretty big difference between using Crystal Frags and using Crystal Blast, and it's not just the stun (now that it's been removed from Frags).

It has always been impossible to land 2x Overloads & 1x Frag at the same time with Frags due to faster travel time, but with Crystal Blast it's possible.

The order in which they land is Overload LA->Crystal Blast (stun)->Overload LA
With Frags it's: Crystal Frags->Overload LA->Overload LA

As a general rule of thumb, it's always better to apply CC towards the end of your burst combo when opponent isn't blocking.

lynog85 · December 2017

DDuke wrote: »

lynog85 wrote: »

Gameplay looks garbage tbh. Dont need a overload gank to kill a potatoe. Can do that on literally anything.

So what, people should stop experimenting because the current boring meta builds can already kill people?

See a stamblade in Cyrodiil? 90% chance it's a 2H/Bow rollerblade
See a sorc in Cyrodiil? 95% chance it's the usual "spam shields & flame clenches/frag procs & spam execute when people are fighting 16 other enemies" meta build
A mag dk? 80% chance it's a S&B permablock build
Warden? 90% chance for some 2H/S&B DBOS Shalks Rev Slice action

...and so on.

I don't know about you, but I for one am happy that people are bringing up new/less popular (but not necessarily less effective) builds, rather than doing what everyone else is doing.

@Lord_Hev

There's a pretty big difference between using Crystal Frags and using Crystal Blast, and it's not just the stun (now that it's been removed from Frags).

It has always been impossible to land 2x Overloads & 1x Frag at the same time with Frags due to faster travel time, but with Crystal Blast it's possible.

The order in which they land is Overload LA->Crystal Blast (stun)->Overload LA
With Frags it's: Crystal Frags->Overload LA->Overload LA

As a general rule of thumb, it's always better to apply CC towards the end of your burst combo when opponent isn't blocking.

Who mentioned meta builds? I said you can kill single players on anything. Any half decent build. Nothing special about ganking.

Blobsky · December 2017

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Not really. First, the Frag hits, then Overload. It is nitpicking for sure, but if it can make a difference...

Only with blast does the overload hit first. This is entirely explained in the video, had you actualy watched it. This ensures Overload is empowered rather than frag. But again, if you are here for anything other than drama, the video is linked to explain that. Since I'm aware that you won't, not have, I don't really know why I bothered writing this

Bro, if you had read your own thread, you would have seen that I have actually been defending your build from Hev and suchlike. And I have indeed watched and liked your video. Admittedly, I have not focused completely on it. Overload gank builds are not something I'd run all day, personally.

I like your build for using Blast instead of Frag and frankly don't care about the rest. I have my own strategies for pseudo-stealth kills and am just happy to see someone bring variety to this class. It really is pidgeonholed overall...
=/

I'll just assume you confused me with Hev, as we are both using "Lord" in our user names. You can differentiate us by our avatars, though. I'm legitimately lit and hotter.
>;3

Merry Christmas!

Apologies, wrong guy XD

Blobsky · December 2017

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Not really. First, the Frag hits, then Overload. It is nitpicking for sure, but if it can make a difference...

Only with blast does the overload hit first. This is entirely explained in the video, had you actualy watched it. This ensures Overload is empowered rather than frag. But again, if you are here for anything other than drama, the video is linked to explain that. Since I'm aware that you won't, not have, I don't really know why I bothered writing this

Bro, if you had read your own thread, you would have seen that I have actually been defending your build from Hev and suchlike. And I have indeed watched and liked your video. Admittedly, I have not focused completely on it. Overload gank builds are not something I'd run all day, personally.

I like your build for using Blast instead of Frag and frankly don't care about the rest. I have my own strategies for pseudo-stealth kills and am just happy to see someone bring variety to this class. It really is pidgeonholed overall...
=/

I'll just assume you confused me with Hev, as we are both using "Lord" in our user names. You can differentiate us by our avatars, though. I'm legitimately lit and hotter.
>;3

Merry Christmas!

Apologies, wrong guy XD

Waffennacht · December 2017

J.H.C it's just a freaking build and video...

Yay for content

TrinityBreaker · December 2017

Gonna slot DK wings & detect pots after this one.

Lord-Otto · December 2017

Blobsky wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Not really. First, the Frag hits, then Overload. It is nitpicking for sure, but if it can make a difference...

Only with blast does the overload hit first. This is entirely explained in the video, had you actualy watched it. This ensures Overload is empowered rather than frag. But again, if you are here for anything other than drama, the video is linked to explain that. Since I'm aware that you won't, not have, I don't really know why I bothered writing this

Bro, if you had read your own thread, you would have seen that I have actually been defending your build from Hev and suchlike. And I have indeed watched and liked your video. Admittedly, I have not focused completely on it. Overload gank builds are not something I'd run all day, personally.

I like your build for using Blast instead of Frag and frankly don't care about the rest. I have my own strategies for pseudo-stealth kills and am just happy to see someone bring variety to this class. It really is pidgeonholed overall...
=/

I'll just assume you confused me with Hev, as we are both using "Lord" in our user names. You can differentiate us by our avatars, though. I'm legitimately lit and hotter.
>;3

Merry Christmas!

Apologies, wrong guy XD

Too much egg nog, eh?
>;P
All good, man.
C=

Smmokkee · December 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

“Wow... People really want MagSorcs to become as trashy as MagDK’s...”

Magdks are good are you kidding me.

Firstmep · December 2017

This build really makes me want to revisit my dark flare gankplar, lol

Dracane · December 2017

We saw the first of Blobs copies today. He used the same things, but failed pretty hard.
He failed and then tried to flee. It seems that this is too hard for some people to pull off ^^

Vahrokh · December 2017

ParaNostram wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

@LadyLavina

Overload gank builds have been a thing for a looooong time on NA.

This is more than just 'overload'

Don't worry OP, people always react this way to anything sorcs do. Kids who don't remember the dark days of sorcs getting group kicked in PvE and only kept for negate in PvP.

In fact I quit ESO for 2 years because of how bad sorcs were back then.

GrigorijMalahevich · December 2017

Dracane wrote: »

We saw the first of Blobs copies today. He used the same things, but failed pretty hard.
He failed and then tried to flee. It seems that this is too hard for some people to pull off ^^

Funny that you mention it, because I've already fought about 5 different AD magsorcs with this build in last 3 days... 100% kill rate needs adjustments

Dracane · December 2017

Valera Progib wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

We saw the first of Blobs copies today. He used the same things, but failed pretty hard.
He failed and then tried to flee. It seems that this is too hard for some people to pull off ^^

Funny that you mention it, because I've already fought about 5 different AD magsorcs with this build in last 3 days... 100% kill rate needs adjustments

Indeed

I think, this is a strategy. Blobs knows, that many people copy YouTuber builds and this way, he can deliver us many easy kills. I love it when you deliver a build, so you seem very social and helpful. But then I secretly laugh silently and enjoy the sight of them failing to copy the build, because people never understand that not even the best gear will make them better players.

I should make builds myself. Seeing people fail, fills me with a joy that I usually only feel when I see cats fall and hurt themselves.

OdinForge · December 2017

Dracane wrote: »

I should make builds myself. Seeing people fail, fills me with a joy that I usually only feel when I see cats fall and hurt themselves.

grannas211 · December 2017

Dracane wrote: »

Valera Progib wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

We saw the first of Blobs copies today. He used the same things, but failed pretty hard.
He failed and then tried to flee. It seems that this is too hard for some people to pull off ^^

Funny that you mention it, because I've already fought about 5 different AD magsorcs with this build in last 3 days... 100% kill rate needs adjustments

Indeed I think, this is a strategy. Blobs knows, that many people copy YouTuber builds and this way, he can deliver us many easy kills. I love it when you deliver a build, so you seem very social and helpful. But then I secretly laugh silently and enjoy the sight of them failing to copy the build, because people never understand that not even the best gear will make them better players.

I should make builds myself. Seeing people fail, fills me with a joy that I usually only feel when I see cats fall and hurt themselves.

You're so awesome man.

ak_pvp · December 2017

Smmokkee wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

“Wow... People really want MagSorcs to become as trashy as MagDK’s...”

Magdks are good are you kidding me.

Very very debatable+dependable.

thedude33 · December 2017

Of course I will pull my sorc out of retirement ...and of course I will fail miserably. I always get sucked into these too good to be true schemes.

I have over 100 Sham Wows at home because I thought I was just gonna buy one ..but wait !! if you order right now you get a 2nd . How can I pass up that offer..meant just for me.

Malamar1229 · December 2017

I saw some blob clones today at alessia bridge. Failed hard. Was pretty funny watching them hard cast crystal blast

DHale · December 2017

Blob is super late to the party. Also there are people running mypuch more powerful builds out there. But glad he is back at least part time anyway.

Blobsky · December 2017

Dracane wrote: »

We saw the first of Blobs copies today. He used the same things, but failed pretty hard.
He failed and then tried to flee. It seems that this is too hard for some people to pull off ^^

Let's be real, we both know that I know what I am doing in this game, both in build design and playstyle. People who are new to a build just need to practice, naturally

lynog85 · December 2017

Blobsky wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

We saw the first of Blobs copies today. He used the same things, but failed pretty hard.
He failed and then tried to flee. It seems that this is too hard for some people to pull off ^^

Let's be real, we both know that I know what I am doing in this game, both in build design and playstyle. People who are new to a build just need to practice, naturally

Or maybe these players know what theyre doing but the build they are using (your build) is just not very good?

thedude33 · December 2017

Blobsky wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

We saw the first of Blobs copies today. He used the same things, but failed pretty hard.
He failed and then tried to flee. It seems that this is too hard for some people to pull off ^^

Let's be real, we both know that I know what I am doing in this game, both in build design and playstyle. People who are new to a build just need to practice, naturally

Practice what exactly? I agree with you in regards to getting away after a kill or using LOS when zerged ..but the actual mechanics of the attack? Not a whole lot to it for a 'guaranteed kill'

Vapirko · December 2017

Lord-Otto wrote: »

It is somewhat original using Crystal Blast, and brings a bit fresh air to a class that is quite one-dimensional.

You should definitely slot Rune Cage, Blob. It is delayed just like Blast, but it goes through block and dodge, which are easy counters to Overload.

Saw one person yesterday doing exactly this, said they’d been doing it for ages. It’s been showing up in a few instances prior to that over the past two weeks. I foresee this becoming the next stamblade/viper/Selenes debacle and overload getting nerfed.

Blobsky · December 2017

lynog85 wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

We saw the first of Blobs copies today. He used the same things, but failed pretty hard.
He failed and then tried to flee. It seems that this is too hard for some people to pull off ^^

Let's be real, we both know that I know what I am doing in this game, both in build design and playstyle. People who are new to a build just need to practice, naturally

Or maybe these players know what theyre doing but the build they are using (your build) is just not very good?

This build is a gank, not an openworld build, with a minimum burst of 24k and max 84k from 40 hours gameplay. The vast majority insulting the build are using miats "cheat" addon, a 100% counter and confirmed to be fixed/removed by zos in the next patch If you expect the build to perform in a non gank situation you are a little special. If you are ganking vs a non miats player, you are probably talking a 95%+ kill rate

lynog85 · December 2017

Blobsky wrote: »

lynog85 wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

We saw the first of Blobs copies today. He used the same things, but failed pretty hard.
He failed and then tried to flee. It seems that this is too hard for some people to pull off ^^

Let's be real, we both know that I know what I am doing in this game, both in build design and playstyle. People who are new to a build just need to practice, naturally

Or maybe these players know what theyre doing but the build they are using (your build) is just not very good?

This build is a gank, not an openworld build, with a minimum burst of 24k and max 84k from 40 hours gameplay. The vast majority insulting the build are using miats "cheat" addon, a 100% counter and confirmed to be fixed/removed by zos in the next patch If you expect the build to perform in a non gank situation you are a little special. If you are ganking vs a non miats player, you are probably talking a 95%+ kill rate

Im not using the build mate. I dont expect anything from it. Im basing my opinion on your gameplay video plus watching people fail miserably with it in pvp. I play console so there is no miats. If i wanted to play a gank build id do it on a class way more suited to it.

I get you release these builds to add content on your chanel, i also like how you try to create none meta builds what are strong. This just isnt one of them, nor is it very unique. Overload builds have been around for as long as the games been out. You may do things slightly different but its still just a overload build. One that is only strong ganking people 1v1. There are a million ways to have success playing that way. All require next to nothing in skill and most people using them are just awful at the game.

Lord-Otto · December 2017

Vapirko wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

It is somewhat original using Crystal Blast, and brings a bit fresh air to a class that is quite one-dimensional.

You should definitely slot Rune Cage, Blob. It is delayed just like Blast, but it goes through block and dodge, which are easy counters to Overload.

Saw one person yesterday doing exactly this, said they’d been doing it for ages. It’s been showing up in a few instances prior to that over the past two weeks. I foresee this becoming the next stamblade/viper/Selenes debacle and overload getting nerfed.

Good.
Overload is a useless ult for everything but ganks. The third bar creates more problems than not.
It's time to re-work that skill. Make it a low-cost burst ulti. Remove all toggles, looking at Bound Armor especially.