Snipe cast time is to long

Jake1576 · December 2017

@ZOS_Wrobel can you reduce the cast time of snipe it takes way to long to cast by the time you are trying to if you aint at a long distance the player has already dodged it snipe is the only skill the bow and arrow has that does any real damage if you can't connect with it then it's basically useless

The_Brosteen · December 2017

excuse me, sir? yes, hi, I believe you have it a little bit mixed up. [Snip].

[Edited to remove baiting]

Edit: there was no baiting here, but if mods deem it necessary to edit what I say at least finish the thought for me, come on now. Now the people will never know!

Nephimana · December 2017

Snipe is fine as it is, as a PvP healer I already get spammed in cyrodil from people a month and a half away. It doesn't need a cast time reduction to double the amount of arrows I get hit with.

SydneyGrey · December 2017

The_Brosteen wrote: »

excuse me, sir? yes, hi, I believe you have it a little bit mixed up. [Snip].

He didn't say he used it as his main source of damage. The way to use snipe is to go into stealth and shoot snipe once. It does a huge amount of damage that way. Then you switch to another mode of attack when the enemy is softened up. You don't keep doing snipe over and over and over. It DOES take way too long to use.
Nice condescending post there, though.

*Edit* My experience using snipe is in PvE. I haven't used it in PvP yet, but I imagine it would be exactly the same.

[Edited for quote]

Bhaal5 · December 2017

Correction: snipes broken animation needs fixing.

@Syrusthevirus187. You'll love this thread

Jake1576 · December 2017

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Correction: snipes broken animation needs fixing.

@Syrusthevirus187. You'll love this thread

I don't know about the animation but it honestly does take to long i normally snipe light attack ambush but by the time snipe is done doing it's cast time the target is either aware of it or is out of range then it won't work anyway especially trying to get snipe to cast on a laggy server like ps4 na has it's almost impossible at times do to the long cast time it has i know there are alot of people who don't like snipe but when you play as an archer it's annoying when the only skill that does any damage won't cast because it takes to long to do so if anyone has seen me play they know i usually just use snipe as an opener then follow up with other attacks after

killimandrosb16_ESO · December 2017

secret to effective lethal arrow use is this my good friend; First check all enemies health bar, if its 20 005> then youre good to go

Then press snipe and cancel with block. If the monkey is dodgerolling at this point, find another target. If the poor banana is ready to be peeled, check your internet. Is it lagging? Hows the weather outside? (Ye, IRL). If its a lot of thunder or generally nasty, its YOUR DAY BOY!! Now hit snipe repeately as many times as you can. Just mash that button like it id no tomorrow, for about 15 secs, then faaaaast hit cloak immob pot and GTFO. On an average, youll hit with anywhere between 4-8 Lethal Arrows at the same time. Now to prepare for next attack, first block the nOOb who just arrived from the saltmine in /w and find another spot, cause he and his buddies are gonna go look for you. And ye, if they do find you, prepare for english breakfast where you are the porcelaine cup with hot water.

Now if you add in some stuff like Morag Tong, Marksman gear, stam or mag draining poison with a good health reduction as icing, a nice trap at your feet and max speed on horse (plus vampire so you can bravely run away faster while stealthed) it get better.

Best way to lure out exactly the type of player you want, is to pull out the cheapest siege engine you can buy...in the middle of nowhere and wait. Its an awesome bait. The closer to sejanus the better (for some funny reason the easiest targets often ride as fast as their turtles allow them to dircetion to or from bridge). Do not position the siege within actual siege range, it will make good players stop too. Then witness how they stop, first test it, see if they can use it themself (habit of using others siege often interferes with the spine reaction to the easiest targets. See siege....must use...). Then basically youre good to go

Repeat at will and GL!

Bhaal5 · December 2017

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

secret to effective lethal arrow use is this my good friend; First check all enemies health bar, if its 20 005> then youre good to go Then press snipe and cancel with block. If the monkey is dodgerolling at this point, find another target. If the poor banana is ready to be peeled, check your internet. Is it lagging? Hows the weather outside? (Ye, IRL). If its a lot of thunder or generally nasty, its YOUR DAY BOY!! Now hit snipe repeately as many times as you can. Just mash that button like it id no tomorrow, for about 15 secs, then faaaaast hit cloak immob pot and GTFO. On an average, youll hit with anywhere between 4-8 Lethal Arrows at the same time. Now to prepare for next attack, first block the nOOb who just arrived from the saltmine in /w and find another spot, cause he and his buddies are gonna go look for you. And ye, if they do find you, prepare for english breakfast where you are the porcelaine cup with hot water.

Now if you add in some stuff like Morag Tong, Marksman gear, stam or mag draining poison with a good health reduction as icing, a nice trap at your feet and max speed on horse (plus vampire so you can bravely run away faster while stealthed) it get better.

Best way to lure out exactly the type of player you want, is to pull out the cheapest siege engine you can buy...in the middle of nowhere and wait. Its an awesome bait. The closer to sejanus the better (for some funny reason the easiest targets often ride as fast as their turtles allow them to dircetion to or from bridge). Do not position the siege within actual siege range, it will make good players stop too. Then witness how they stop, first test it, see if they can use it themself (habit of using others siege often interferes with the spine reaction to the easiest targets. See siege....must use...). Then basically youre good to go Repeat at will and GL!

NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Why would you do this!!!
:'(

MrGarlic · December 2017

I was 'one-shot' by another player who managed to get two snipes (and a venom arrow, DOT and poison) off quickly enough that server and internet lag made my character appear to die instantly.

So no, based on my own review, it does not need shortening.

WildWilbur · December 2017

Jake1576 wrote: »

@ZOS_Wrobel can you reduce the cast time of snipe it takes way to long to cast by the time you are trying to if you aint at a long distance the player has already dodged it snipe is the only skill the bow and arrow has that does any real damage if you can't connect with it then it's basically useless

Why do you young lads hate punctuation with such a passion?

Jake1576 · December 2017

MrGarlic wrote: »

I was 'one-shot' by another player who managed to get two snipes (and a venom arrow, DOT and poison) off quickly enough that server and internet lag made my character appear to die instantly.

So no, based on my own review, it does not need shortening.

Actually part of the reason you are able to get off a poison injection right after snipe is because of the slow cast time after you snipe you can weave a light attack in and a poison injection after the light attack while the snipe is just landing and all of it hits at the same time by speeding up the cast time player's wouldn't be able to shoot a poison injection after snipe immediately and land them all at once

killimandrosb16_ESO · December 2017

Jake1576 wrote: »

MrGarlic wrote: »

I was 'one-shot' by another player who managed to get two snipes (and a venom arrow, DOT and poison) off quickly enough that server and internet lag made my character appear to die instantly.

So no, based on my own review, it does not need shortening.

Actually part of the reason you are able to get off a poison injection right after snipe is because of the slow cast time after you snipe you can weave a light attack in and a poison injection after the light attack while the snipe is just landing and all of it hits at the same time by speeding up the cast time player's wouldn't be able to shoot a poison injection after snipe immediately and land them all at once

if youre even faster you get in a PI, light attack AND toxic barrage before your double snipes land

Tan9oSuccka · December 2017

The only thing they need to change is the lag that sometimes happens when the sound breaks and someone lands three simultaneous snipes at the same time.

Otherwise, I enjoy griefing you guys up on the wall. Snipe, roll....snipe, roll.

zaria · December 2017

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

secret to effective lethal arrow use is this my good friend; First check all enemies health bar, if its 20 005> then youre good to go Then press snipe and cancel with block. If the monkey is dodgerolling at this point, find another target. If the poor banana is ready to be peeled, check your internet. Is it lagging? Hows the weather outside? (Ye, IRL). If its a lot of thunder or generally nasty, its YOUR DAY BOY!! Now hit snipe repeately as many times as you can. Just mash that button like it id no tomorrow, for about 15 secs, then faaaaast hit cloak immob pot and GTFO. On an average, youll hit with anywhere between 4-8 Lethal Arrows at the same time. Now to prepare for next attack, first block the nOOb who just arrived from the saltmine in /w and find another spot, cause he and his buddies are gonna go look for you. And ye, if they do find you, prepare for english breakfast where you are the porcelaine cup with hot water.

Now if you add in some stuff like Morag Tong, Marksman gear, stam or mag draining poison with a good health reduction as icing, a nice trap at your feet and max speed on horse (plus vampire so you can bravely run away faster while stealthed) it get better.

Best way to lure out exactly the type of player you want, is to pull out the cheapest siege engine you can buy...in the middle of nowhere and wait. Its an awesome bait. The closer to sejanus the better (for some funny reason the easiest targets often ride as fast as their turtles allow them to dircetion to or from bridge). Do not position the siege within actual siege range, it will make good players stop too. Then witness how they stop, first test it, see if they can use it themself (habit of using others siege often interferes with the spine reaction to the easiest targets. See siege....must use...). Then basically youre good to go Repeat at will and GL!

LOL, and it probably work.
Remember after launch, guild was in cyrodil, we was to few to take keeps so we thought we should gank a bit for fun.
two in group was just past level 10 so they was bait, lady in underwear dancing, guy playing lute

I protested said it was an too obvious trap however all fell for it, killed plenty of player, one fool even twice.
Finally they sent out an group who wiped us.

T4T2FR34K · December 2017

Snipe cast time is fine, MIATS is what needs to be neutered.

MajBludd · December 2017

Yes, make the cast time even shorter so ppl spam it even more than they already do. That would be great. Also, at the same time make reflect last 20seconds so I don't spend as much mag returning those snipes.

Delimber · December 2017

...because it hasn't been said yet, if snipes cast time is reduced than dizzying swing / wreaking blows cast time needs reduced...

WillhelmBlack · December 2017

Good one...

JamieAubrey · December 2017

AW HELL NAW

JerzeeDevil · December 2017

Cloak out, pop mage light, camo hunter...Snipe away! (Hell, even drink a weapon damage potion if you want to!!!!!)

TASTE THESE ARROWS!!!!!!!

lynog85 · December 2017

Snipe should be removed from the game. Only garbage players use it.

JerzeeDevil · December 2017

lynog85 wrote: »

Snipe should be removed from the game. Only garbage players use it.

And bows too you'd like to see gone, I'd imagine?

ZOS_KatP · December 2017

Hi all,

We've removed a few off-topic posts because they violated our forum policy on baiting. Please keep the conversation civil, constructive, and inline with our forum rules.

Thanks

Reverb · December 2017

It should have the same cast time as Crystal Shards and Dark Flare - if one is reduced, all should be.

Vapirko · December 2017

No it is not too long.

Paganini · December 2017

Oh man... At first i thought this is sarcasm. But then i realised, the OP is serious.
Have you have been "1-shot" by 2 snipe-shots + poison-arrow? Doesn't seems like. Even in heavy armor you get killed within one second, without any chance to avoid this. And you are complaining, that the cast-time is to long?

This game is not "pressing one OP button all the time and do the highest dps". If you're really struggling with your dmg, you should take a look about your build.

I mean, iam totally with you - it's not possible to make a valuable bow-build. Most of the time you only can use the bow, if you can't get close enough, or you're using it for buffing. But reducing the cast-time of an already broken/OP skill, is not the right way to get rid of it.

Betsararie · December 2017

Snipe is garbage bro.

It's not even good

Really I don't have much of a problem with snipers.... if you're a 'dedicated' sniper, you've just given away that you're a free kill....

Titansteele · December 2017

ZOS_KatP wrote: »

Hi all,

We've removed a few off-topic posts because they violated our forum policy on baiting. Please keep the conversation civil, constructive, and inline with our forum rules.

Thanks

This is the internet, baiting is all we have!!!

Spoilsports

Mayrael · December 2017

Heh reduce the snipe cast time? Ok, but reduce its damage adequately. Cast time reduced by 50%? Reduce its damage by 50%.

There are some builds that use snipe with success - LA targets get hits 15-17k with just one hit, (I should mention that when cought they die faster than their targets) imagine now that they can spam it...

Tommy_The_Gun · December 2017

Jake1576 wrote: »

@ZOS_Wrobel can you reduce the cast time of snipe it takes way to long to cast by the time you are trying to if you aint at a long distance the player has already dodged it snipe is the only skill the bow and arrow has that does any real damage if you can't connect with it then it's basically useless

It is the LAG in cyrodil that is a problem... not the casting time... Often it makes snipe almost un-castable because if you have 1.1s casting time + 3 sec lag... trying to cast one snipe after another - the player you are shooting at had already break free, had a cup of coffe and roll-doged 3 times...

SodanTok · December 2017

Mayrael wrote: »

Heh reduce the snipe cast time? Ok, but reduce its damage adequately. Cast time reduced by 50%? Reduce its damage by 50%.

There are some builds that use snipe with success - LA targets get hits 15-17k with just one hit, (I should mention that when cought they die faster than their targets) imagine now that they can spam it...

Eh, frag gets bonus damage for no cast time.