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Returning to ESO
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It has been nearly a year since I have played ESO and I was thinking of getting into it again here soon. I did not stop playing because lack of interest or complaints with the game, just life stuff getting in the way really. I am planning to start a fresh Breton Sorcerer and I only really care about PvE and playing the game more solo like so I do not care about maxing tue perfect stats or getting the super ultimate gear of doom, just stuff I like. More pressingly though is I had a few questions before I started again about general gameplay and whatnot I was hoping some of you could shed light on.
The curent holiday festival thing, I remember last year it pretty much killed the area with lag around the quest giver, how is it going this year? Not super interested in doing it but also would not be opposed to trying it out eventually. Just not if it will crash the game with super lag or whatever.
There used to be this annoying glitch like a framerate hiccup that would occur when making kills with a destruction staff (part of why I often just used a restoration staff), does that still happen or has it been fixed?
That is pretty much it really, as I said I am not really interested in PvP or the endgame raid stuff, I want to get into playing it a little bit everyday as I do enjoy having little daily activities to work on intermixed with fun adventuring/story stuff. I have played Neverwinter, Skyforge, even Destiny for my daily mmo fix with story stuff, but they do not really hold my attention to the same degree as the Elder Scrolls series does. So I really do want to get back into it, any information would be greatly appreciated.
The curent holiday festival thing, I remember last year it pretty much killed the area with lag around the quest giver, how is it going this year? Not super interested in doing it but also would not be opposed to trying it out eventually. Just not if it will crash the game with super lag or whatever.
There used to be this annoying glitch like a framerate hiccup that would occur when making kills with a destruction staff (part of why I often just used a restoration staff), does that still happen or has it been fixed?
That is pretty much it really, as I said I am not really interested in PvP or the endgame raid stuff, I want to get into playing it a little bit everyday as I do enjoy having little daily activities to work on intermixed with fun adventuring/story stuff. I have played Neverwinter, Skyforge, even Destiny for my daily mmo fix with story stuff, but they do not really hold my attention to the same degree as the Elder Scrolls series does. So I really do want to get back into it, any information would be greatly appreciated.
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Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'd say, dont.
The game has changed so much for the worse and compard to Neverwinter and Skyforge, your not gonna have a lot of fun with this game. Those two just flow so much better.4 -
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✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »to Neverwinter and Skyforge
For real op, ESO looks great. Transmutatin made so much easier to get your gear and jump right into harder content. It really worth.“Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
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Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »to Neverwinter and Skyforge
For real op, ESO looks great. Transmutatin made so much easier to get your gear and jump right into harder content. It really worth.
If your willing to grind.
...And thanks for taking that completely out of context. "Those two flow so much better". And the combat in both does, being either cooldown based or combo based.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Welcome back! I recently returned too after a lengthy absence. Still working out the links since my skills have gone a bit rusty but having fun all the same. I play like OP; mostly solo. My templar destruction staff wielder hasn't seen the hiccups but I don't remember them from before either. Enjoy your time in Tamriel!PC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
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Milvan✭✭✭✭✭
✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »to Neverwinter and Skyforge
For real op, ESO looks great. Transmutatin made so much easier to get your gear and jump right into harder content. It really worth.
If your willing to grind.
...And thanks for taking that completely out of context. "Those two flow so much better". And the combat in both does, being either cooldown based or combo based.
I mean, c'mon there is a lot of flaws to talk about in ESO, but that transmutation thing isn't one of them. It's actually one of the things they actually got it right. Every content you do drop/reward you with a significant amount of transmutation crystals, you can easily change two traits per week just doing pledges and normal trials. Plus if you pvp will always have you transmutation stones cap.“Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
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Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »to Neverwinter and Skyforge
For real op, ESO looks great. Transmutatin made so much easier to get your gear and jump right into harder content. It really worth.
If your willing to grind.
...And thanks for taking that completely out of context. "Those two flow so much better". And the combat in both does, being either cooldown based or combo based.
I mean, c'mon there is a lot of flaws to talk about in ESO, but that transmutation thing isn't one of them. It's actually one of the things they actually got it right. Every content you do drop/reward you with a significant amount of transmutation crystals, you can easily change two traits per week just doing pledges and normal trials. Plus if you pvp will always have you transmutation stones cap.
Grind for a month to get 50 crystals.
Can only carry 100 at a time. 200 with ESO plus.
Done well my tookus. It's grindy. It's crap. And it shouldn't be defended.
People like you are why people have to make they're voices heard in beta before the cult of fanboy personality develops around a game.0 -
maniac4maniac✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »I'd say, dont.
compard to Neverwinter and Skyforge, your not gonna have a lot of fun with this game. Those two just flow so much better.
The worst MMO everDoctordarkspawn wrote: »
Grind for a month to get 50 crystals.
You can easy make ~50 crystals per day.
Looking at your profile and messages - there is nothing useful except hate towards ZoS. Yes they are far form perfect, i myself am regularly saying that, but still they are definitely better than shity Skyforge which you made as example above or many others MMOs. And when people talk about things they don't even know like "50 crystals per month" (and that's "grind") - it also says a lot. If you like 0 grind at all though - go Destiny 2. When people hate game so much they spam all forum with such posts but still keep playing it - it's like eating *** every day instead of food, idk why you like it.
To OP:
ESO has most same problems as MMO as it had before, like FPS, bugs, lags, but in terms of Grind it became much better with transmute station. You need days for what it took weeks or months previously. New PvE zones and content is also nice, the part of ZoS who works at quests and PvE Solo always did their job pretty nice. PvP, PvE raid end-game - nothing super awesome imo, but just overall better... except PvP, never liked it and many PvPrs quit it for this or that reason.Edited by maniac4maniac on December 14, 2017 2:09PM3 -
Storm_knight22✭✭✭✭sorry i misread OP's nameEdited by Storm_knight22 on December 14, 2017 2:02PMI want spell crafting.0 -
ADarklore✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭OP... since you seem to play the game like I do, as mostly a solo PvE quester, the game is great! Sure they've made some serious changes- especially to the Champion tree and resource management, but once you get used to it- like running Cost Reduction glyphs or utilizing Heavy attacking to regen resources- it's not too bad.
People talk about Transmutation but for a solo PvE'er, that's really not for us... that's mostly for 'end game' players who prefer multiplayer content... as OP stated, he's mostly into solo PvE.
As for the framerate question... since you seem to be on XBOX... I can't really answer that... but I know on PC I've seen huge improvements on framerate issues. I remember playing dolemens and having the screen turn into nothing but stutter due to all the AoE's... but I haven't experienced that in quite some time and I do a lot of dolemen grinding.
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Milvan✭✭✭✭✭
✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »to Neverwinter and Skyforge
For real op, ESO looks great. Transmutatin made so much easier to get your gear and jump right into harder content. It really worth.
If your willing to grind.
...And thanks for taking that completely out of context. "Those two flow so much better". And the combat in both does, being either cooldown based or combo based.
I mean, c'mon there is a lot of flaws to talk about in ESO, but that transmutation thing isn't one of them. It's actually one of the things they actually got it right. Every content you do drop/reward you with a significant amount of transmutation crystals, you can easily change two traits per week just doing pledges and normal trials. Plus if you pvp will always have you transmutation stones cap.
Grind for a month to get 50 crystals.
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“Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
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A_G_G_R_O✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »to Neverwinter and Skyforge
For real op, ESO looks great. Transmutatin made so much easier to get your gear and jump right into harder content. It really worth.
If your willing to grind.
...And thanks for taking that completely out of context. "Those two flow so much better". And the combat in both does, being either cooldown based or combo based.
I mean, c'mon there is a lot of flaws to talk about in ESO, but that transmutation thing isn't one of them. It's actually one of the things they actually got it right. Every content you do drop/reward you with a significant amount of transmutation crystals, you can easily change two traits per week just doing pledges and normal trials. Plus if you pvp will always have you transmutation stones cap.
Grind for a month to get 50 crystals.
Can only carry 100 at a time. 200 with ESO plus.
Done well my tookus. It's grindy. It's crap. And it shouldn't be defended.
People like you are why people have to make they're voices heard in beta before the cult of fanboy personality develops around a game.
Man you get hundreds just for pvping maybe you should try that Doc? I’m sure you could make a solid tank build and repair a few walls to get atleast 5 rewards for the worthy in an hour or two1 -
Delta1038✭✭✭Lol, I do not even know what the crystals you guys are referring to are so I will have to look into that.Xbox One NA0
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Grabmoore✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »I'd say, dont.
The game has changed so much for the worse and compard to Neverwinter and Skyforge, your not gonna have a lot of fun with this game. Those two just flow so much better.
Skyforge is bad in every way and Neverwinter is P2W garbage without challenging PvE and massive grind, if you don't pay for your Rank 12...
In eso you play 2 days of PvP for 50 Crystals aß a Casual. I played 5k + hours in ESO and grinded less than in 2k houes Neverwinter.
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Delta1038✭✭✭Let us all be polite, people can have differing opinions on these games. I have thoroughly enjoyed both Skyforge and Neverwinter. They are not the greatest games I have ever played but I have spent no money on either and enjoyed them a good deal, so in the end it comes down to personal preference. Personally I hate PvP, not just in ESO but in just about any game. I find it to be boring, tiresome, and utterly lacking, so this farming method in PvP for crystals (which I still do not know what they even do) is something I will never waste my time with.
I suppose what I am most trying to determine here is whether or not the game is worth the investment of time and energy, for the fun of the game and its story. Not for min/maxing, pvp nonsense, or super ultimate end-game content. I essentially am playing it like I did in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim that just happens to have some fun other player interactions occasionally.Xbox One NA1 -
Hixtory✭✭✭✭Lol, I do not even know what the crystals you guys are referring to are so I will have to look into that.
The transmutation system was introduced in the last DLC, basically you need some stones (you get them doing pledges, 1st random daily, weekly trials, and PVP) and know the trait you want to change. You don't even need the stone to change the trait, for example, you get an awesome training lighting staff in VMA, before transmutaiton system you would have cursed ZOS and your luck. Now you only need to know the infused/nirhoned trait in any toon and go to the transmute station and change it. For nirhoned you dont need the potent nirncrux.
Basically now you can work and in due time you get all the gear you want.
I for example transmuted the lord warden helm and shoulders (heavy) to sturdy just because I dont like that dungeon and the rng in the chests of pledges is annoying lolEdited by Hixtory on December 14, 2017 3:10PM0 -
Milvan✭✭✭✭✭
✭I love when folks shout how bad a game is from that games forums.....
Take a insighful because of your signature. I actually was the first one to use the "CROWN CRATES: It doesn't affect game play, it's not mandatory, it's cosmetic only. If it helps to support the game and ZOS, I support it! Say YES to crown crates."
I thought nobody else used it anymore
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭my biggest problem with Neverwinter is that while vanilla game if you will has pretty fantastic solo content, with expansions, to much of it quickly degenerates into grinding dailies. mind you, i haven't played since they brought back Minsc. was so excited and loved the first few quests and then... dailies.
while ESO does have a daily thing, there is just more story in general, so if story is what you are after? definitely worth coming back to.
Event is still laggy, but its.. doable.
if you like housing - its fuuuun! has no functionality really, and can be pricey to get into, but decorating possibilities are fantastic.
ESO's combat issues are negligible when soloing, so..dirty worthless casual.
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kojou✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Let us all be polite, people can have differing opinions on these games. I have thoroughly enjoyed both Skyforge and Neverwinter. They are not the greatest games I have ever played but I have spent no money on either and enjoyed them a good deal, so in the end it comes down to personal preference. Personally I hate PvP, not just in ESO but in just about any game. I find it to be boring, tiresome, and utterly lacking, so this farming method in PvP for crystals (which I still do not know what they even do) is something I will never waste my time with.
I suppose what I am most trying to determine here is whether or not the game is worth the investment of time and energy, for the fun of the game and its story. Not for min/maxing, pvp nonsense, or super ultimate end-game content. I essentially am playing it like I did in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim that just happens to have some fun other player interactions occasionally.
If your goals are just doing story content then I wouldn't even bother with Transmutation. It is used for fine tuning hard core combat builds (End Game and PvP) for basic story line questing you can use the bucket and broom and have way more fun. You could also start on a "naked" character and only equip stuff you find on the way and get a bit more of a progression experience as you do the quests.
I found all the main story quests enjoyable and at least worth doing once with only a few exceptions.Playing since beta...0 -
SirAxen✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »to Neverwinter and Skyforge
For real op, ESO looks great. Transmutatin made so much easier to get your gear and jump right into harder content. It really worth.
If your willing to grind.
...And thanks for taking that completely out of context. "Those two flow so much better". And the combat in both does, being either cooldown based or combo based.
I mean, c'mon there is a lot of flaws to talk about in ESO, but that transmutation thing isn't one of them. It's actually one of the things they actually got it right. Every content you do drop/reward you with a significant amount of transmutation crystals, you can easily change two traits per week just doing pledges and normal trials. Plus if you pvp will always have you transmutation stones cap.
Grind for a month to get 50 crystals.
Can only carry 100 at a time. 200 with ESO plus.
Done well my tookus. It's grindy. It's crap. And it shouldn't be defended.
People like you are why people have to make they're voices heard in beta before the cult of fanboy personality develops around a game.
Grind for a month to get 50 crystals? LOL?!? Quit spreading false information please.0 -
Dragath✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »I'd say, dont.
The game has changed so much for the worse and compard to Neverwinter and Skyforge, your not gonna have a lot of fun with this game. Those two just flow so much better.
i tried Neverwinter once and had to stand still as a melee dps to attack. couldn't move while attacking. felt like i was thrown into the stoneage of rpgs.
is that still the case? might give it a go if they fixed that.
OP: yes, during prime time ESO is still lagging during events. last event was a dungeon event and the dungeon finder didn't work half of the time.
ESO is still same old, same old.Edited by Dragath on December 15, 2017 12:54AM0 -
Yvarhna✭✭✭Welcome back OP.
I've just recently come back as well and am currently leveling up another sorcerer (high elf) this time as I already have a Breton, and I have to say, I'm loving being back in the game.
Sure, there are little niggly things that can annoy, it's more to do with my lag than anything else, but as I'm playing from New Zealand that's to be expected. It's not a huge issue though, and I can do just about everything with no problems. Besides, since you stated you have no interest in pvp, little things like lag won't make a huge issues.
I can't speak for what it's like on the Xbox as I'm on PC, but even if I spike to 1000ms, which in some crowded city areas that can happen, I still find I can do things. It does not stay that high though, will often reduce down to 350ms.
As for the staff, since I play with lag, I can't weave light attacks as well, so will always go more medium. I don't really remember there being a glitch, it's just more the lag issues for me, but I can still put out reasonable dps when doing group content so as I said, its not a huge deal.
As I had already stated, I'm really enjoying being back and leveling a new Character. ESO has such beautiful zones, I enjoy the quests, so overall, I'm pretty happy to be back. As far as I'm concerned, its well worth coming back to.0 -
Adernath✭✭✭✭✭There are pro's and con's with Neverwinter. I liked the fast paced (and non-lagging!) pvp and pve, the D&D setting and the nice and very funny events. However as they introduced the artifacts and the dragon expansion it was simply too much of a grind for me to get myself competitive. On top of that people started selling ZEN items for Diamonds and this was the turning point for me when I stopped.
Thats a thing I like in ESO. There is no P2W aspect and we all can get competitive in a decent amount of time.Edited by Adernath on December 15, 2017 1:20AM1 -
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Think we can possibly get a sticky with regular "state of the game" updates so we don't have to respond to the 23,563,523,242 threads open asking the exact same thing all the time?
Obviously this is too hard for players to do:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/search?adv=0&search=returning+player&title=&author=&cat=all&tags=&discussion_d=1&discussion_question=1&discussion_poll=1&comment_c=1&comment_answer=1&within=1+day&date=Edited by PlagueSD on December 15, 2017 1:24AM0 -
Smmokkee✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »I'd say, dont.
The game has changed so much for the worse and compard to Neverwinter and Skyforge, your not gonna have a lot of fun with this game. Those two just flow so much better.
I'm not a fan of the direction of eso either but those recommendations are garbage. F2P mmos are p2w and so gimmicky they cant even be compared to ESO.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It's you've been gone just under a year I assume the last time you played was just after the one tamriel update.
since then we've had homesteads, morrowind, clockwork city and horns of the reach.
horns had 2 really good dungeons, can recommend.
morrowind was a solid expansion. in particular the warden is a very fun and welcome addition.
clockwork city is good, and i love the asylum trial.
homesteads are either fantastic or a complete waste of time and gold. fantastic if you like decorating a house as a mini game, otherwise it's somewhere you can put a target skelly. Personally I love my house and have really enjoyed getting it right, but I can totally understand how some people are underwhelmed.
sustain got wrecked since you last played, so expect to use some heavy attacks in your rotation, or to pick some sets which complement that. most dps are using the health / stat / regen drinks to help address this.
the weapon traits got re-balanced a bit. in particular sharpened is no longer the top dog so you will be after infused.
the thief mundas got nerfed, so you either want lover or apprentice/warrior.
That's pretty much it for big changes in the last 12 months...0