paulsimonps wrote: »

From what I remember on healing done and healing received they stack additively with each other. But don't quote me on it. I haven't tested that in quite a long time. I used to use a lot more into that in PvE than I do now and I don't really swap my CP out for PvP but on my stamina characters I do have a few points in there but not too much.

Also you elf born and quick recovery are not connected so not sure what you are asking about in that regard.

Healing done will also boost quick siphon but not healing received. And healing received will boost other healing on you, not just your own.

So while you could add blessed+ quick recovery, you'll probably see better output stacking quick recovery and saving your blue CP for dmg stars in group compositions. But flipside for healers, blessed would be obviously better and your teammates will get extra healing from their healing received bonuses.

paulsimonps wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

paulsimonps wrote: »

From what I remember on healing done and healing received they stack additively with each other. But don't quote me on it. I haven't tested that in quite a long time. I used to use a lot more into that in PvE than I do now and I don't really swap my CP out for PvP but on my stamina characters I do have a few points in there but not too much.

Also you elf born and quick recovery are not connected so not sure what you are asking about in that regard.

Healing done will also boost quick siphon but not healing received. And healing received will boost other healing on you, not just your own.

So while you could add blessed+ quick recovery, you'll probably see better output stacking quick recovery and saving your blue CP for dmg stars in group compositions. But flipside for healers, blessed would be obviously better and your teammates will get extra healing from their healing received bonuses.

Wait? From my testing Minor lifesteal should be boosted by healing received. Or did you see otherwise? I will have to test that tomorrow again. I might just have misunderstood you too.

The build editor shows tooltip boosted by healing done and when I tried it I didn't see heading received. But I could be mistaken; I hate testing in the middle of cyro lol.

Worth another try. I know healing done will definitely boost the tooltip

@paulsimonps sorry I didn’t mean elf born I meant blessed.

And @Minno healing received will boost self heals as well right?

Liofa wrote: »

Just want to clarify . Correct me if I am wrong .

Healing Done increases every healing skill that you are the caster of , including Minor Lifesteal .

Healing Taken boosts skills like Strife , Inhale etc. that scales with damage done .

Healing Received boosts every healing source that is NOT yours . Minor Lifesteal will not do increased healing on you if YOU cast it BUT if someone else casts it , you will get benefit from Healing Received on Minor Lifesteal .

Been a long time since the last time I checked . I am too lazy to test this again , anyone tested this recently ?

If what I know is true , in a group PvP environment , you want Healing Received . If you are solo , you want Healing Done .

@Liofa I went to test to make sure, Healing Taken and Healing Received are identical/synonymous. Regardless of the source, you or someone else, Healing Taken and Healing Received will increase the strength of a heal on you. So Healing Received will still buff self heals and Healing Taken will still buff heals from others.

Qbiken wrote: »

This text is taken from one of Asayre´s threads on Tamrielfoundry:


The base healing formula for a healer using a variety of sources of Healing Done and Healing Taken and Healing Received is



The Tooltip value is increased by Restoration Master, Soul Siphoner, Major Mending and the Ritual Mundus. These add additively. Healing Done was tested with Blessed. Healing Taken was tested with Tormentor and Leeching sets. Healing Received was tested to be additive with Quick Recovery [Champion Point], Rapid Mending [Heavy Armour Passive], Minor Vitality [Swallow Soul & Coagulating Blood], Burning Heart [Draconic Power Passive] and Quick to Mend [Argonian Passive].

Example

A C160 Argonian cast Healing Springs. This character has 12% Healing Taken from the Tormentor and Leeching Sets and has 100 points in Blessed (25% Healing Done) and 100 points in Quick Recovery (16% Healing Received). In addition, this character is wearing 7 Heavy armour pieces (7% Healing Received), has the Minor Vitality buff, has a Draconic Power ability active and has 3 points in the Quick to Mend passive. This tooltip value includes the bonuses from Restoration Master, Major Mending and the Ritual Mundus.



Also want to add that this text comes from a thread that is over 2 years old, so can´t tell for sure if something has changed or not

I did actually not test for that, how the formula was, just tested what it would increase or not. Went back to check, you are right. Healing Taken, Healing Received and Healing Done are multiplicative with each other but additive within itself. So 2 sources of healing taken are additive together but multiplicative with another source of healing received. But my first test still stand in that Healing Taken and Healing Received both buffs are sources of healing. Well I didn't check every heal in the game but tested the examples of Quick Siphon, Strife and Combat Prayer, added the last one myself for testing a restoration staff direct heal.

So Asayres stuff still hold up, only thing is that some of the values have changed.