@Oceanic Players

Serjustin19 · December 2017

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

Dungeons are fine on our ping (350-400). End game becomes more difficult. I can pull acceptable but not great dps in trials - 30-35k....but not 50ish which makes all the difference. The problem is not dieing...... for example being out of the red but still dieing to it. That places a large burden on your trial group and makes it difficult to get into good trial teams. In vma I would really like to see someone on 300+ ping post a video of a flawless run on a stam toon. I hear it possible but like to see if their experience is similar to mine.

Hi, I'm going off topic because I'm way curious. I'm not from Oceanic. But I'm from United States. Even though I from United States. I play on EU, with 250-450 ping. Funny thing is I tried NA, still same ping as EU. Hence I don't want to start over on NA, with my original NA character.

I tried upgrade Internet no luck. Eventhough Farm is considered Business, it not considered Business for my isp. Hence no Business Internet for me. I could switch to one that is 5 miles away from me. I tried but they told me I have to cut my neighbors tree... I won't and will never do.

I'm a healer and love being a healer. I love to try and keep my teammates alive. I get livid and saddened when I'm force to freeze and then suddenly catches up and everyone died. Then me, I worry it's my fault and doing on purpose. But I'm not doing on purpose.

I want to do dungeons, especially IC and trials and Normal VA. (or what ever it called) But all I do is lag and freeze. My eso don't like my isp especially in small rooms full of enemies. All I can do is Cyrodiil, but really tough to do so. I'm on PS4.

I'm tired of everyone so OP than me, because ESO don't like my ISP and my ping like you Oceanic players. Even same problem on NA. I'm tired all the good OP sets,locked on Bind on Pickup and mostly in dungeons and trials.

But even with your ping. I'm very amazed on how you play with dungeons. You very lucky, in a way I'm jealous. At same, I have no dps, eventhough I'm a healer,. But again need sets that I'm unable to get because they locked up. In which I'm unable to get.

Xvorg · December 2017

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

With ping around 300 and not stable (keep jumping from ~250 to ~350 sometime 999+), it's really hard to weave light attack, so I'd suggest class that do heavy attack weave, usually stam dps.

For healer role, pick a class that rely on HoT like NB, pick skills like mutagen over rapid regen. Because it can take over 1s from the time your group mates get hit, you see their health bars drop, you react and press instant heal like Breath of Life, and your heal is applied to them. That is if you're lucky and don't have lag spike. With HoT ticking at least your group are still being healed while waiting for your Healing Ward or big Ult.

And I agree with someone above, tank probably the best role for our connection.

And just... don't get too serious in PvP

I think that's the best advice

LittlePinkDot · December 2017

Yvarhna wrote: »

I don't have fiber, but only because I share a driveway and the front house we can't track down the landlord who owns the place. I own my house, but the rules for having a shared driveway is so ***. I'm tempted to just fake his name

The ping might be the thing that breaks it for me, but I'll stick with it for now. See how well I can get my reaction times to pro status.

You mean a company needs the owners permission first? I rent and never had to tell my landlord. Hes got no idea theres a fiber optic cable through the outside wall and into the upstairs bedroom.

GlorphNoldorin · December 2017

But even with your ping. I'm very amazed on how you play with dungeons. You very lucky, in a way I'm jealous. At same, I have no dps, eventhough I'm a healer,. But again need sets that I'm unable to get because they locked up. In which I'm unable to get.[/quote]

I dont think there is anything special, just play alot, learn the game, how dungeons work and your classes. Join guilds and try to friend players who can show you how to play and get through harder content. For dps heavy attack builds really are the only way. I could not have learned vma without a mag sorc when the sustain wasn't nerfed. Maybe it's harder now I'm not sure.

I have found that vma is way harder for me with only a small ping change....350-400 makes so much difference, it's miserable. I can still do fine in a vet trial (not hm) at that ping.

If you need help getting gear etc and are on NA-pc you can contact me (same user name as above) but we may not be on at the same times.

Seri · December 2017

Slick_007 wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

on NA i go from 320 to around 260 with a vpn
on EU i go from 400+ to low 300's, lowest I got was 289. So yes, it does make a difference.

thats why i said it may or may not make your routing better. it is not a guarantee. it depends on the routing you have vs the vpn routing. and if your vpn endpoint is too far from the game server, it will make it worse.

The unfortunate problem is that for the majority of Aussies, ever since ZOS added Akamai protection, we're routed from NA via a HK Akamai node. Traffic from Aus to Asia is slow at the best of times so rather than the 200ms to the US West Coast we used to have months ago, we now get 200ms to HK, and then an additional few hundred from HK over to USA.

I've tested various ISPs, and anyone using Vocus, AAPT, TPG, Optus, etc, all get routed up there. Telstra Wholesale is the only backhaul I've seen that doesn't. Without VPNs I average 380ms, picking a US west-coast exit node (or using an ISP with Telstra backhaul), I get 260ms average ping. Obviously not everyone will benefit but definitely worth a try.

TheUndeadAmulet · December 2017

You hear us yet ZOS?

GIVE US BETTER PING

Pele · December 2017

Nifty2g wrote: »

As for this topic and some of the replies, I disagree with most of them, I've seen some amazing Australian players. Hell there used to be a time when an Australian guild was one of the best on the NA server and in the world for PvE, there was even a few PvPers I know that have been amazing. Ping does not limit you at all in ESO.

Yep. I know Aussie players like that too.

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About getting faster Internet to lower ping - If you're currently getting ~200ms then a faster connection won't help with gaming because gaming requires a stable connection, not a faster one if you are already at your region's minimum latency to a certain destination. ~200ms +/-20 is the lowest you will ever get because of your geographical location in relation to the ESO server.

MrGarlic · December 2017

Nifty2g wrote: »

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As for this topic and some of the replies, I disagree with most of them, I've seen some amazing Australian players. Hell there used to be a time when an Australian guild was one of the best on the NA server and in the world for PvE, there was even a few PvPers I know that have been amazing. Ping does not limit you at all in ESO.

It does make a difference. Even something as simple as handing in crafting writs is noticeably slower on EU compared to NA, from here in New Zealand and it's only 100ms difference in ping. (Using Autowrit addon)

It doesn't prevent me from doing crafting writs, but it does make it slightly slower. So I don't know what you are alluding to when you say

Ping does not limit you at all in ESO.

because it does.

That's my experience, but YMMV.

Haquor · December 2017

Yvarhna wrote: »

Coming back to this game, I'd forgotten how terrible our ping is. Most of the time I sit around 320ms. On good days around 250-260ms but that's rare, and it can sometimes shoot to 1000ms if in cities. It's a bit of a concern as I really want to get into doing Vet Dungeons etc but with our lag being so bad I'm a little worried about it. It would mean we have less of a reaction time to mechanics that can one shot you.

How do you guys cope with this?

Vet dungeons and even vet trials is fine around 300ms. I get spikes ast times. But it is all i know. I pvp a lot and have Farmed vma for a long time with 250 to 400 ping. You just gotta be quick. I would LOVE to pvp with sub 100 ping. My god.

Yvarhna · December 2017

Hey guys,

Cheers for all the replies

I'm slowly adjusting to the ping, and can make it work most of the time. Ran a few dungeons over the week and could still pull ok dps, but I'm having to use more medium and heavy weaving now than light, as it seems to work much better that way.

Plan on farming VMA for that lightning staff, and reckon I can manage with my ping. It's been so long since I've done it, and that was just normal because I left the game not long after. I'm ready to face the challenge though, and after doing a whole heap of Mage Tower challenges in WoW, I'm sure I can eventually get there on Vet difficulty.....hopefully

As for pvp, well I'd rather not get too involved in it. I don't want to ruin others games through my poor performance. If I could do it just for fun, then sure, but I'd rather not be that player that is the weak link to a team.

Nifty2g · December 2017

MrGarlic wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

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As for this topic and some of the replies, I disagree with most of them, I've seen some amazing Australian players. Hell there used to be a time when an Australian guild was one of the best on the NA server and in the world for PvE, there was even a few PvPers I know that have been amazing. Ping does not limit you at all in ESO.

It does make a difference. Even something as simple as handing in crafting writs is noticeably slower on EU compared to NA, from here in New Zealand and it's only 100ms difference in ping. (Using Autowrit addon)

It doesn't prevent me from doing crafting writs, but it does make it slightly slower. So I don't know what you are alluding to when you say

Ping does not limit you at all in ESO.

because it does.

That's my experience, but YMMV.

I'm talking about being able to complete content?