Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »Just wondering if that is too cruel, or is that actually helping them out?
Seems everyone has no problem telling the Heals they are not up to snuff, right? "Blame the Healer."
What if DPS just can't get the job done and you're spamming heals like a fool?
Quit, and say "It's probably me, replace me with a more powerful Heals"? Or say "We can't complete this boss because your DPS is not breaking him/her down fast enough"?
Which is preferred etiquette?
That would be manners. Wisdom would be also realizing that if you want to tell someone they suck, then you are the problem. If you know the game and are good at it help other players to learn it. It will make you feel all warm and cuddly inside.
You're acting like the only way to inform someone they're terrible at their role is to be extremely rude. The TC literally gave an example of stating the truth as politely as the situation permits.
By all means, TELL HIM! I was that guy a few months ago and being told my DPS sucks has made the game SO much better and SO much more fun for me that I want to find and thank the guy who first told me. Honestly, if that hadn't happened, I probably would have quite the game out of boredom.
Here's exactly what happened and why I think it's so important to tell players they could significantly improve.
I was a 100% solo player at about CP100 when I tried my first dungeon. I play a stamina nightblade and, at the time, was using my bow 80% in solo play. I struggled to kill overland groups of 3 mobs and usually had to use my ultimate (Ballista) for delve bosses. I hadn't ever checked my dps on a targeting dummy but I'd guess it was around 5k.
I rarely used my daggers. I had shadow cloak on both bars. I didn't use any AOEs or DOTs. None.
I loved my first dungeon and started responding to messages in guild chat looking for people for pledges. And then came the message that changed my ESO life.
"LF DPS for vet Pledges. no Snipe spammers."
No snipe spammers? What does that mean and what's wrong with snipe? I live for snipe! I'm a stealth archer like I was in Skyrim!
So I asked. After some back and forth, I was directed to go look up some builds online and do some research.
Oh my...
80% of the skills recommended for "good" DPS weren't on my bar.
I had NO rotation whatsoever.
My DPS was probably 1/5th of what most would say is reasonable.
So I changed. I changed everything. I rebuilt my nightblade, changed the majority of my skills. Changed my CPs, changed my gear, changed my style, learned to weave, learned a rotation, and practiced practiced practiced.
And, as expected, everything improved a ton. I'm barely average, today, pulling 25k on a targeting dummy when I get everything right (22k when I spaz) and able to put up some decent numbers against vet bosses.
But here's the key: It's NOT that I can now put out 25k DPS vs. 5k. It's that I'm now able to enjoy FAR more game content than I could as a solo player struggling to solo a delve boss. I am enjoying ESO so much more now, than I was earlier, that I'd love to find the guy who excluded "Snipe Spammers" and shake his hand.