ZoS, PLEASE stop The Exploits (Aleswell) [N/A] [PC]

chaz · December 2017

Hello and thank you for popping in here Zenimax.

First, thank you for everything. It's been great. That said, we have this issue now that's become a problem.

People have been using rappids, maybe even jailbreaker or what ever speed boost or even CE cheat speed clock, what ever it is, this needs to be fixed. I'm providing screenshots for you. They use a fast moving Mount to jump off the side of stairs at Ales Farm to then land on this outter edge of the keep to make their way inside unchallenged. They then stalk people and gank them, and then they also use this EXPLOIT to put up siege from the inner side of the keep.

At the very least, can't you just program an INVISIBLE wall or something preventing people from quickly leaping into the keep?

https://imgur.com/a/Qssqy

https://imgur.com/a/hvQLv

https://imgur.com/a/TE2Om

https://imgur.com/a/vhpcw

https://imgur.com/a/Lj6XQ

https://imgur.com/a/0k3Nu

Please Zenimax, Please tell us you're going to deal with this right away. I'm so tired of leaving the keep from the transitus only to find 1, or 5 to 6 or more gankers inside the keep killing poeple using this exploit.

Thank you.

Reverb · December 2017

Does anybody here click on images that are linked instead of embedded? I usually don't bother, I wonder how many people do.

Turelus · December 2017

If you have evidence of people using the jump to get into the keep PM it to Gina/Jess or a forums mod to pass on.

It is as far as I am aware an exploit to bypass keep walls willingly.

Hymzir · December 2017

Aleswell is such a stupidly designed keep... You got perfect platforms to siege on both the north and east side. Where defenders must fight an uphill battle against the sieging force. They can bottleneck any attempts to lift the siege on the stairs and keep their healers hidden from the defenders.

And the design of having the keep surrounded by hills on three sides just enables this sort of cheating. It used to go on for couple of years before ZOS tried to fix it. In fact those stairs were originally perpendicular to the retaining wall. They turned the stairs to prevent people from jumping to the the keep walls... Sounds like somebody found a way to do it despite the change.

Voxicity · December 2017

Meh, nothing will be done.

There's an exploit in cyrodiil where you can glitch through an invisible kill wall and lure people into it and they die instantly while you're safe. There was a video uploaded of 10 people doing it, have been reported but nothing happened to them or the exploit.

So best thing is to just ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist.

VaranisArano · December 2017

Hymzir wrote: »

Aleswell is such a stupidly designed keep... You got perfect platforms to siege on both the north and east side. Where defenders must fight an uphill battle against the sieging force. They can bottleneck any attempts to lift the siege on the stairs and keep their healers hidden from the defenders.

Sounds like Chalman. And Alessia. Most keeps have places for attackers to siege from range without being forced to set up close to the walls or the FD. Its almost like ZOS wants it that way.

From a military design standpoint, it sucks. Maybe that's why the Legion is getting its butt kicked in the 3 Banners War.

SirAndy · December 2017

chaz wrote: »

ZoS, PLEASE stop The Exploits (Aleswell) [N/A] [PC]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oGAZsISO85U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGAZsISO85U

Alpheu5 · December 2017

It was even worse before they fixed the mounts running inexplicably fast a few weeks ago. If you turned right when heading up the stairs with rapids on, you didn't even have to jump, you'd just get slingshot far enough to get launched through the doorway and possibly even fall through the lower floor. Was one of the most hilarious WTF moments I've ever had.

Alexandrious · December 2017

Nothing will be done. Please buy more scam crates so we get Fallout Online.

All The Kek

kojou · December 2017

I wonder how many people will try this to see if it is really possible now that there is a post about it...

Ackwalan · December 2017

From the pictures, you provide no evidence of cheating.

josiahva · December 2017

Your screenshots prove nothing. I seriously doubt anyone can make that jump, with speed being capped now.

LeagueTroll · December 2017

Dude ur image gives 0 info, stop complaining for bugs don’t even exist.

Alpheu5 · December 2017

I recorded myself trying to replicate it pre-fix. Shouldn't be a problem posting anymore since these particular formulae of mount physical-enhancement drugs were confiscated from all users on PC on November 5th.

https://youtu.be/GLZVzeSLmKE

I haven't seen anybody successfully get into the keep from there since that patch though. Some footage with the current version game would be more helpful than pictures of the area.

Edit: Recorded it and submitted.

Rainraven · December 2017

ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »

I wonder how many people will try this to see if it is really possible now that there is a post about it...

Well, yeah. Now people who didn't know and have never seen it have to try, just for the lulz.

But that's good. The only time they really deal with sploits in Cyrodiil is when they're widely known.

teiselaise · December 2017

LeagueTroll wrote: »

Dude ur image gives 0 info, stop complaining for bugs don’t even exist.

josiahva wrote: »

Your screenshots prove nothing. I seriously doubt anyone can make that jump, with speed being capped now.

Ackwalan wrote: »

From the pictures, you provide no evidence of cheating.

The pictures might not prove anything but go try it, you'll be surprised

Wreuntzylla · December 2017

Rainraven wrote: »

ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »

I wonder how many people will try this to see if it is really possible now that there is a post about it...

Well, yeah. Now people who didn't know and have never seen it have to try, just for the lulz.

But that's good. The only time they really deal with sploits in Cyrodiil is when they're widely known.

They shouldn't. ZoS has made it pretty clear that people getting into a keep other than by knocking down a door or wall are exploiting. Bans have been handed out, and they moved on from 3-day bans to perma bans, so...

VirtualElizabeth · December 2017

These are pictures of a guy on a mount...jumping. Scandalous! A video would be better if you want to prove this can be done.

chaz · December 2017

Not everyone posts in the forums, but I wasn't even aware of it until someone in zone chat mentioned it, at the same time by coincidence that I happened to have seen it. They go stealth as soon as they get inside. I killed the person using javelin knocking him off, then finished him up outside the wall. I have a screenshot of it. So I know who is doing it. And yes, I will give that name to ZoS privately as I don't need to be naming and shaming.

But I'm not the only one who witnessed it. They have ways of finding out if it can be done or not. I was on my low level toon, I can easily hop on my Fully decked out NB with Mount and prove it. but there's no need. Really, I'm just reporting the exploit.

Rainraven · December 2017

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Rainraven wrote: »

ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »

I wonder how many people will try this to see if it is really possible now that there is a post about it...

Well, yeah. Now people who didn't know and have never seen it have to try, just for the lulz.

But that's good. The only time they really deal with sploits in Cyrodiil is when they're widely known.

They shouldn't. ZoS has made it pretty clear that people getting into a keep other than by knocking down a door or wall are exploiting. Bans have been handed out, and they moved on from 3-day bans to perma bans, so...

No, they shouldn't. I've already seen it (long time ago though, thought it was fixed) so I'm safe from the curiosity.

Going in there to kill anybody would be bad, but c'mon. Too funny.

Edit: Not that I am condoning using a sploit! Just say no, kids.

Alpheu5 · December 2017

Rainraven wrote: »

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Rainraven wrote: »

ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »

I wonder how many people will try this to see if it is really possible now that there is a post about it...

Well, yeah. Now people who didn't know and have never seen it have to try, just for the lulz.

But that's good. The only time they really deal with sploits in Cyrodiil is when they're widely known.

They shouldn't. ZoS has made it pretty clear that people getting into a keep other than by knocking down a door or wall are exploiting. Bans have been handed out, and they moved on from 3-day bans to perma bans, so...

No, they shouldn't. I've already seen it (long time ago though, thought it was fixed) so I'm safe from the curiosity. Going in there to kill anybody would be bad, but c'mon. Too funny.

Edit: Not that I am condoning using a sploit! Just say no, kids.

Nope, no fix. Maybe the masons of Cyrodiil should tear down the stairs for use in other projects? Maybe they'll use the excess stone to fix the hole at the bottom of the stairs on the mine side.

Rainraven · December 2017

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Rainraven wrote: »

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Rainraven wrote: »

ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »

I wonder how many people will try this to see if it is really possible now that there is a post about it...

Well, yeah. Now people who didn't know and have never seen it have to try, just for the lulz.

But that's good. The only time they really deal with sploits in Cyrodiil is when they're widely known.

They shouldn't. ZoS has made it pretty clear that people getting into a keep other than by knocking down a door or wall are exploiting. Bans have been handed out, and they moved on from 3-day bans to perma bans, so...

No, they shouldn't. I've already seen it (long time ago though, thought it was fixed) so I'm safe from the curiosity. Going in there to kill anybody would be bad, but c'mon. Too funny.

Edit: Not that I am condoning using a sploit! Just say no, kids.

Nope, no fix. Maybe the masons of Cyrodiil should tear down the stairs for use in other projects? Maybe they'll use the excess stone to fix the hole at the bottom of the stairs on the mine side.

I've wondered before why that staircase would even be there. It isn't hard to get to that side of the farm if you don't want to use the stairs - from the keep side - and they're not useful or necessary from the farm side either. O.o The ways of the Cyrodiil masons are mysterious.

chaz · December 2017

Well, I hope ZoS fixes it. I gave a screen shot of the person who has been doing it to ZoS forums admins. It's just like the same kind of exploit DK's use with chain to get into a keep and is totally ridiculous , insane, fun, but unfair. HAHAHAHA. On a side note, HAHAHAHA joke is on someone else other than me, I'm playing my game today and OMG I forgot how tedious and mundane it is to play without EsO ++, you get no mounts, no craft bag and no extra space. Someone thought I wasn't going to be playing today but after pumping in nearly 7 grand into this game, NO ONE WILL STOP me from playing, EVER! LOL. But yeah, I created a whole new character from scratch with my old account and I'm like OMG Where is the mount? Where is the easy money and fast level ups?