Yeah that's .... lame as hell. Will people even be able to get gems for any doubles from these, since we can't spend our saved gems on them? And then if you DO get gems for doubles, will we be able to spend THOSE gems on the items? How would they separate the gems you got from these from the gems you already have? It's all too stupidly confusing.

Not getting these. I would have gotten a couple of pets with gems I've saved, but apparently I can't.

Huh. I probably would have bought some mounts with my saved gems, but not now I guess. This system gets more ridiculous with every change they make.

Oh, that is weak. I was really hoping to get the Roostertail hair for Argonians.

They have a chance to do right by us though, with the way it's written they could let us buy the items during the windows and claim that's totally what they meant by "while on sale"

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you confirm this is as we're interepting it?

Old Crates return, but their content cannot be bought with our Crown Gems? That heavily devalues what Crown Gems are worth, if they can only ever be spent on "new Crate loot" and never "past Crate loot".

Crown Gems still cost us real money to obtain, why should it matter?

I find myself pretty ticked off about this...

I’m a relatively new player and missed these previous crown crate seasons. Normally I am totally anti-anything gambling with real cash, but crown gems makes crates an acceptable although not palatable mini-game. I have also begun to accept that if one wants the really good appearance collectibles in this game, one basically must participate in the crown crate gambling mini-game to some degree. Again, gems make this acceptable if not palatable if appearance collectibles are a big part of one’s enjoyment.

It’s a very disturbing trend to see more and more exclusive items on which gems cannot be used! Keep it up and I’ll no longer be able to kid myself into believing crown crates are not straight-up cash gambling and I’ll have to restrict myself to supporting the game strictly from my sub in the future. This is not what I want! I want to support the game, I want the cool shinies and I will gladly pay for them! But there has to be a limit on what I have to spend to know I can eventually get what I want. Isn’t that what crown gems were meant for?? Why is that changing?

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Crown Gems still cost us real money to obtain, why should it matter?

This. They act like they gave us those gems as a gift, but they cost real money.

I really want the chub loon and ancestor moth swarm, but I will buy 1 of each crate and pray to RNGsus. Wish I could afford more right now.

If these crates do return again in the future, I really hope they will have a gem buying option implemented for them by then.

nvm; wrong thread

Well thats dumb

Not that I agree, but you know they don't need to bring back old crown crates at all right?

So when they going live?

I know it sucks but people should be able to control their own desire. Just assume that there is none of those "crown crates come back". If you need to, you can buy some tissues to wipe the drools off your keyboard and they are much cheaper than the crown crates. I bought 15 of those a couple of months ago and didn't get anything that I wanted. From then on I just had to learn that none of this is for me. Crown Crates gambling sucks, not being able to buy items using gems also suck - but if that is what it takes to keep the servers alive then I will bite my tongue.

is this live?

I really wanted Mind Shriven skin, and I have the gems to take.

I want several things in the Storm Crates, but there's no way I'm going to spends hundreds just *hoping* I get the drops I want, with no way to spend gems to get them. No thanks. I'll just keep my money and not buy any at all.