Plz help with stamsorc
Nick1620
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Hey guys!
I leveled my argonian stamina sorcerer and really dont know what to do. This is my first stamsorc, i never played it before, so plz guys i ll accept any advices.
Right now i'm thinking about x5 heavy x2 medium, S&B + 2H.
x5 Shacklebreaker or Ravager on body and bone pirate (2 on body+ 3 jewelry) and random nirn weapon.
So what do you think?
I'll accept any advices, tips and suggestions.
Thank You.
I leveled my argonian stamina sorcerer and really dont know what to do. This is my first stamsorc, i never played it before, so plz guys i ll accept any advices.
Right now i'm thinking about x5 heavy x2 medium, S&B + 2H.
x5 Shacklebreaker or Ravager on body and bone pirate (2 on body+ 3 jewelry) and random nirn weapon.
So what do you think?
I'll accept any advices, tips and suggestions.
Thank You.
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nCats✭✭✭Stam sorc is not in a good place currently, so do not expect much. Possible to do well, but not like wardens or magicka counterparts.
Having said that, ravager is only ok if you are comfortable proccing it with S&B, don't expect to proc it with 2H. Bone pirate is possible but may be an overkill on stamina recovery, especially if your monster set keeps you alive. Also bear in mind that in heavy you will get snared a lot, unless you can streak a few times this can be very dangerous.
I play the automaton/alchemist combo, far from perfect but fits my understanding of stamsorc.0 -
nCats✭✭✭One combo that can possibly work is the DW/2h viper/skoria/fortified brass medium setup. You run medium, use DW to proc viper and skoria, and use 2h to heal and maybe execute. Since you are in medium, your weapon damage will be okay-ish, your crit will be good, and shuffle may be used.0
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Drakkdjinn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Too much regen not nuff damage on that setup imo - disregard the above posters reservations about heavy so long as you equip forward momentum morph if u choose one of those sets.0 -
nCats✭✭✭Drakkdjinn wrote: »Too much regen not nuff damage on that setup imo - disregard the above posters reservations about heavy so long as you equip forward momentum morph if u choose one of those sets.
@Drakkdjinn I run heavy myself in fact, still with rally. You find Dark Deal heal enough?
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Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Drakkdjinn wrote: »Too much regen not nuff damage on that setup imo - disregard the above posters reservations about heavy so long as you equip forward momentum morph if u choose one of those sets.
@Drakkdjinn I run heavy myself in fact, still with rally. You find Dark Deal heal enough?
Relying on a 1.4s channel (including the 0.2s you can't do *** after it goes off) as emergency heal is not wise.1 -
Sixty5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Stam Sorc is in a pretty meh place right now for PVP, you aren't anywhere near as tanky as Wardens, DK's or even Templars, and you lack strong class abilities to cover those deficiets, especially after the Clockwork CIty changes.
My experience is mostly based on Battlegrounds, so that might help put some things in context.
Your kill-combo is Dizzying Swing, Dawnbreaker, Reverse Slice. That is what you will be fishing for 90% of the time. Outside of that you don't really have many options. Heavy Attack, Stampede is about the only other offensive combo you really have, and it is nice for the resource recovery and the snare, while offering decent burst.
Streak has a few offensive uses, though the only one worth mentioning is opening someone up to a Selene proc, but that is a tad iffy.
Honestly, the best thing you can do when playing a Stam Sorc is to look for squishies and go after them using your speed and mobility to break through to them. Because in all honesty, outside of a few specific builds you do pretty much nothing to tanks on your own.
I've been having some succes with a bleed build using Blood Drinker, Shacklebreaker, VMA 2h Axe and Masters Axe + Dagger. Stacking up multiple bleeds seems to work alright, though in that case you do get a tad rekt by templars, or by people with a healer babysitting them.Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
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Drakkdjinn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Drakkdjinn wrote: »Too much regen not nuff damage on that setup imo - disregard the above posters reservations about heavy so long as you equip forward momentum morph if u choose one of those sets.
@Drakkdjinn I run heavy myself in fact, still with rally. You find Dark Deal heal enough?
Sry was not insinuating on ur build just giving advice re HA skills -- DD sucks ass as a mid-fight heal unless u got the mag to streak into a LoS position, that's the best/only time to DD imo unless ur fighting potatoes
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nCats✭✭✭@Drakkdjinn ah no, I was simply asking. I wonder what are good options to stamsorc in heavy.0
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madeeh91rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭There was a time these forums were full of people crying about stamsorcs.
Now I can't even remember when was the last time I saw one.
Instead we have threads like this.
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madeeh91rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭@Sixty5 "Stam Sorc is in a pretty meh place right now for PVP, you aren't anywhere near as tanky as Wardens, DK's or even Templars, and you lack strong class abilities to cover those deficiets, especially after the Clockwork CIty changes."
Can you please put some light on that?0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Stamsorc ganker seems viable in medium (if there's no miat's around) and can help a lot in group play. Just practice snipe + la + rune + swap + cit rush+ executioner. Of course, you can empower your firts snipe with radiant.Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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del9✭✭✭✭Been running Stam Sorc in BGs for 3 weeks. I find it's very useful to the group when played correctly.
The Healer Smasher:
IMMOV/SPEED POTS, 5 medium,1,1
5x ShackleBreaker 5x Bone Pirate, vMA Nirnhoned Maul, Master Bow (IMMOV/SPEED POTS)
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5x Spriggans, 3x Agility, 2x Slimeclaw, Nirnhoned vMA Maul, Master Bow
You will be squishy, but playable if you are comfortable with it. Defense come from mobility (speed warp 9), and pure damage output.
Gameplay: PI on master bow to proc damage bonus (+ bersker glyph w/infused), streak over main group, explode healer in the back, clean up the rest. Kill combo that sixty mentioned works well.
Build into tumbling a bit and roll, zip,Dark Deal away when you get into troublePCNA0 -
Thogard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There are a lot of strong Stam sorcs on PC NA, but all of them are really good players on other classes as well. It’s a very strong class - one of the strongest - but it’s hard to play because as del mentioned the survivability is based on kiting.PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
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Sixty5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭madeeh91rwb17_ESO wrote: »@Sixty5 "Stam Sorc is in a pretty meh place right now for PVP, you aren't anywhere near as tanky as Wardens, DK's or even Templars, and you lack strong class abilities to cover those deficiets, especially after the Clockwork CIty changes."
Can you please put some light on that?
The biggest change clockwork city brought for stam sorc was limiting Shuffle to medium armour. It might not seem like a big change on the surface, but it actually hit stam sorc pretty hard.
You are a class that relies heavily on mobility rather than holding your ground, and you lack the same burst power that a nightblade has. This means that if you want to avoid getting kited to death you will need to run some form of snare removal, either with Shuffle or Forward momentum.
The issue there is that you are already starved for defensive tools and healing in your kit, thus you are either going to have to run medium armour, drop rallies burst heal, or get kited.
The issue here is that even in Medium armour, you tend to lack the up front damage to get through tankier enemies, and being in medium yourself leaves you pretty open to them.
In non-cp this isn't as much of a problem, as people aren't as tanky, and don't do as much damage, so medium armour is more viable. However, in CP you kinda just need heavy armour, otherwise you tend to just die to things like bird spam.
In the end Stam Sorcs biggest problem is that they are a rather vanilla class. You heavily rely on abilities that are available to all other classes, and can't really mix it up too much with class abilities. The four class abilities you do use (Streak, Hurricane, Surge and Dark Deal) do bring a lot to the table, however, 3/4 of those cost magicka, meaning that you are encouraged to spec into magicka in order to make best use of these, which again, lowers your damage. And while all stam classes have magicka abilities that they make use of, they tend to be able to get away with not having to spec into magicka at all, or having better innate recovery for the stat than Stam Sorc.Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
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madeeh91rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭Thanks.
Perhaps some sort of major fracture/breach skill can help the stam sorcs?0 -
raasdal✭✭✭✭✭
✭For CP : No clue
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