Is Soul Assault OP?
JiKama
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I've been PvPing some and I could be having a good battle against some players. We go back and forth trading blows and they just Soul assault me. I go 100-0 instantly and it goes through heals/shields/DK flappers. Just curious if there's counter play or what to do? It's happened multiple times and it's so frustrating. I'm still learning in PvP, but that's like the only ability I've seen just completely destroy me.
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Calboy✭✭✭✭✭its strong but there is plenty of counter play. Also I see other ultimates WAY more than I see soul assault and any type of nerf would send it into the shadow realms.5 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Soul Assault is the ultimate unlocked by completing the Main Questline.
Here's a thread from June about your problem, so it might be worth reading what people have to say there: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/354553/counter-to-soul-assault
If you want some specific advice, knowing your class and whether you are magicka or stamina focused will help. (I'm guessing DK?) The general advice is pretty much "don't be squishy, line of sight the caster, and mist form/heal/block/clock/dodge through it."1 -
alephthiago✭✭✭✭✭I have zero problems with soul assault to be honest, also each class other than magwarden has better burst ultimates to use.Walks-in-Shadowss AD Magblade
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NOOOOOOO! Not this thread again! It never turns out well!
As for soul assault... I know NOTHZING!6 -
JiKama✭✭✭✭Well... I was just curious about it since I've ran into a few people who just nuke me instantly with it. I can Survive dawnbreakers, destro ultis, but not that blue beam of death. Not wanting to start a rant thread about it, but I was just looking for some info on how to negate it somewhat.0
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Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nope cos there are a ton of counters.Xbox One | EU | EP
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Malic✭✭✭✭✭
✭Its too cheap, I'll give you that. Making it 125 ulti seems legit. There is counter play, med armor sucks and of course the cry babies.
You die in cyrodiil and while waiting for load screens why not come to the forums and cry for a nerf? Never mind thinking about a way around it, you know like LINE OF SIGHT.
noob players ruining this game now for years. It never ends they will be crying about something else once this gets nerfed, watch.2 -
Sigma957✭✭✭✭✭Blocking helps mitigate a lot of the damage or you could just get in their face and while they are channeling assault them
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Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It's bad if you're in medium armor. Not much you can do. It should probably be a bit higher cost to use.3 -
Witar✭✭✭✭✭Block and spam heals\shields. Wardens can pull off 80k soul assaults though.Edited by Witar on November 18, 2017 10:11PMIt cannot be seen, cannot be felt,
Cannot be heard, cannot be smelt,
It lies behind stars and under hills,
And empty holes it fills,
It comes first and follows after,
Ends life, kills laughter.1 -
SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Use 1h+shield and preferably switch from medium to heavy.
Or always hug trees and rocks to break line of sight
Yes, those are the only good solutions.
Edited by SodanTok on November 18, 2017 11:52PM0 -
Feric51✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's OP and a big issue. Shame on the people that use it.
Yes! Shame on people using a skill that may help them. We should all slot nothing but skills that will be of no value and allow our enemies to survive with no counterplay talent whatsoever.
The people that complain about “cancer” builds that are available to them and everyone else in the game get on my nerves worse than anyone else.
You can’t beat em, join em or shut the heck up.
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Betsararie✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's OP and a big issue. Shame on the people that use it.
Yes! Shame on people using a skill that may help them. We should all slot nothing but skills that will be of no value and allow our enemies to survive with no counterplay talent whatsoever.
The people that complain about “cancer” builds that are available to them and everyone else in the game get on my nerves worse than anyone else.
You can’t beat em, join em or shut the heck up.
Found the soul assault spammer
pretty difficult playstyle.Edited by Betsararie on November 19, 2017 12:46AM4 -
Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nah, i have no problem with SA on any of my builds. In regards to using it, gimme a dawn breaker or meteor Any day. Great damage, cc, ability to use spells while using them, aoe. So much better.0 -
Lylith✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Use 1h+shield and preferably switch from medium to heavy.
Or always hug trees and rocks to break line of sight
Yes, those are the only good solutions.
at least you offered the op some solutions instead the the thinly veiled 'l2p' horseshit that seems to infest these types of threads.
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EttinTheBreton✭✭✭Isn't Soul Assault a channeled ability, so it can be bashed to interrupt them? BASH EM! RMB + LMB!Best,
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Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭EttinTheBreton wrote: »Isn't Soul Assault a channeled ability, so it can be bashed to interrupt them? BASH EM! RMB + LMB!
It used to be, but they changed that and increased its strength (TG update I believe...?)Edited by Tryxus on November 19, 2017 2:12AM"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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Kalante✭✭✭✭✭
✭EttinTheBreton wrote: »Isn't Soul Assault a channeled ability, so it can be bashed to interrupt them? BASH EM! RMB + LMB!
nope that ult only has one counter against stam players and that is to block because if any moment you stop holding that block you will die. I don't know were are people getting this "it has many counters" from because as a stam nb player i would like to know about these mystery counters apart from the ones i already know like soul siphon and cloak, for cloak you have to wait two seconds so it's not really "counter"Edited by Kalante on November 19, 2017 2:21AM2 -
EttinTheBreton✭✭✭EttinTheBreton wrote: »Isn't Soul Assault a channeled ability, so it can be bashed to interrupt them? BASH EM! RMB + LMB!
nope that ult only has one counter against stam players and that is to block because if any moment you stop holding that block you will die. I don't know were are people getting this "it has many counters" from because as a stam nb player i would like to know about these mystery counters apart from the ones i already know like soul siphon and cloak, for cloak you have to wait two seconds so it's not really "counter"
Really? Wow that is kinda OP then. So when you use Soul Assault, you are essentially immune from any type of Crowd Control for the entire duration of the channel?
I would like to see some Developer's commentary about that decision if it exists in any of the patch notes.Edited by EttinTheBreton on November 19, 2017 2:26AMBest,
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Fishstrom✭✭✭You can’t dodge, cleanse, cloak, bash or LoS SA. All skills should have counter play. And skills like these is why PvP is FAR from balanced.2
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