Shadow vs Thief

Valento89 · November 2017

Someone explain this to me, The Shadow, with full Legendary Divines, should give 13.7% crit. The Thief should give 9%. Yet when switching to the Shadow I lost over 10% crit, from 68% down to 55%.

Beardimus · November 2017

Did you have something on one bar you didn't on other? Inner light etc?

A buff?

FrostFallFox · November 2017

9% Crit chance is the base for thief . 7 gold divines is 52.5% increase.

9(1.525) = 13.68

Beardimus · November 2017

Sorry just re-read your note.

Thief adds Crit

Shadow adds Crit damage

SaintSubwayy · November 2017

simple solution, use apprentice or warrior....gives better stats anyways

did you evtl. barswap when comparing the stats?
DW daggers, or Presice weapon on one bar, Something else on other bar may end up in a critrating differnce bigger then expected.

Asardes · November 2017

Equally bad since HotR patch.

death_pudding · November 2017

The shadow doesn't give crit. It increases the damage of your crits. The thief however does give crit

getemshauna · November 2017

Shadow anwsers for critical damage, Thief for critical chance.

If you wanna know the dps gain from Critical Ratio:
Let's say you have 60% critical chance with 80% increased modifier (180% damage of base value)
(60 * 180)/100 = 108% damage increase

Your base critical modifier is 150% of damage. If you hit for 3000, your crit gonna be 4500.
Things like Minor and Major Force, champion points, or Nightblade/Templar passives give you 10% also. More critical chance, more valuable critical damage is, and vice-versa.
Unluckily, in ESO Warrior and Apprentice flat damage value overdmges shadow mundus stone with balanced stats (50-70% crit).
Don't ask why.

DMuehlhausen · November 2017

Beardimus wrote: »

Sorry just re-read your note.

Thief adds Crit

Shadow adds Crit damage

I was going to say they are different stones. One is damage, one is change to crit. So it seems like he lost the exact right amount of crit chance when switching.

Valento89 · November 2017

Beardimus wrote: »

Sorry just re-read your note.

Thief adds Crit

Shadow adds Crit damage

Derp totally misread the shadow, I need more coffee.