ESO dying?

Ragnarock41 · November 2017

Psyonico wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

MMO games don't die suddenly.
They slowly become ghost towns.

Tell that to City of Heroes

exceptions are exceptions my friend.

Megabear · November 2017

Not "dying", yet, but as with all MMO ESO has been declining. As we go towards the end of the tunnel ZOS will try harder to squeeze cash from its player base, to make the best out of their investments. Uh oh, are we there yet?

socivL · November 2017

how do you kill something that isn't even alive?

idk · November 2017

I laugh at these threads seeming to indicate this game is dying. They have filled the forums since the month the game was released. Clearly some bad prophets and analysts involved.

At least it's gotten more entertaining with less now to steam since a graat many of us know those steam stats done mean jack. Hard to believe someone thinks they're worthy of linking.

Just FYI for anyone that thinks the steam stats have any meaning when discussing ESO, they're reflecting a small sliver of the game base that is not necessarily reflective of the entire player base. In other words, that soda bottle you just tossed into the can probably has more value.

Rawkan · November 2017

It's been "dying" since Orsinium according to the doomsayers on the forum. Low pop MMO's like lotro are still around. As long as there's some support for the game it will stay alive.

I see people everywhere when I play so I don't think it will "die" anytime soon.

Alexandrious · November 2017

mikecrci wrote: »

FF14 is made of Fail and AIDS.

And yet, it has more content. More features, better gear appearance customization, more random things to do, harder more intricate endgame, way more story, is completely optimized, more stable, more mounts, more pets, more....everything.

Only thing eso has on it is a bigger world and much more active combat system......yea...

Oh xiv has better pvp too. Not great pvp, but hey, at least it works and doesnt require to restart the game every 10 to 20 mins.

You must be trollin Son.

Kek

Jade1986 · November 2017

technohic wrote: »

Jade1986 wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

MMO games don't die suddenly.
They slowly become ghost towns.

Look at Swtor, it finally server merged into mega servers that's a bad sign for that game since it had plenty of servers before I know ESO has mega servers but they had them since the start

This happened because the population plummeted when the dev team decided to only focus on story content for an entire year, following the logic that the "majority" play story content. surprise surprise, when they did that, a massive chunk of the population left. Why? Because most people want variety. Luckily swtor has a new creative lead so they are getting a few players here and there back by releasing content for everyone. Pvp, story pve, endgame pve, etc.

Story content for a year didn’t really do it. Not alone anyway. They went that route and very casual and alt friendly; then ripped it all out and introduced command XP. Basically made an artificial grind for filler as they cannot even release a full raid in a patch. Have to do it 1 boss at a time.

Obviously there was a lot more to it that built up over time, but the story centric approach really was a huge factor. All my raid, pvp and versatile guilds went from hundreds to nill within weeks.

Gargath · November 2017

Sarato wrote: »

Thoughts?

No thoughts this time, sorry.

AteFromJP · November 2017

I feel NEW every major update guraduary close and close to like FF14, please stop it
End contents are too difficult

SirAxen · November 2017

Alexandrious wrote: »

mikecrci wrote: »

FF14 is made of Fail and AIDS.

And yet, it has more content. More features, better gear appearance customization, more random things to do, harder more intricate endgame, way more story, is completely optimized, more stable, more mounts, more pets, more....everything.

Only thing eso has on it is a bigger world and much more active combat system......yea...

Oh xiv has better pvp too. Not great pvp, but hey, at least it works and doesnt require to restart the game every 10 to 20 mins.

You must be trollin Son.

Kek

This. This here is delusional. The only thing FF14 does better than ESO is endgame PVE, and even that is arguable.

LordNilloc · November 2017

mikecrci wrote: »

So if anyone here had to guess, which has the highest population? PC? PS4? Xbox?

My guess = PS4.

Why? Because PC players have other MMORPGs to choose from. Xbox players strike me as being more into sports and Call of Doody games.

Is this correct?

I believe the xbox actually has the biggest pvp population.

Wreuntzylla · November 2017

The game is good enough to play solo, so no. Slow death or no death.

Wolfshead · November 2017

@Sarato

You put way too much into what Steam and githyp.com but you forget one big thing many old timers (player) like me that have been with ESO since beta or at start did not use steam to buy game most of us did by the game from ZoS so those number you look at are very very wrong.

Besides if the game where dying do you really thing ZoS would make the 10 Million Stories Sweepstakes thing??

idk · November 2017

Alexandrious wrote: »

mikecrci wrote: »

FF14 is made of Fail and AIDS.

And yet, it has more content. More features, better gear appearance customization, more random things to do, harder more intricate endgame, way more story, is completely optimized, more stable, more mounts, more pets, more....everything.

Only thing eso has on it is a bigger world and much more active combat system......yea...

Oh xiv has better pvp too. Not great pvp, but hey, at least it works and doesnt require to restart the game every 10 to 20 mins.

You must be trollin Son.

Kek

Someone spending time in ESO forums saying FF14 is a significantly better game that ESO is the one trolling.

Besides the obvious reasons, why would that person be here if he liked FF so much more?

Cloudless · November 2017

Ohboy, this thread again.

Nova Sky · November 2017

I've eaten an entire bag of popcorn while devouring this latest "Is ESO Dying?" thread. It was quite buttery, too.

themaddaedra · November 2017

TheValar85 · November 2017

Not realy.
On the game social side probably.

VizigothAlaric · November 2017

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Not dying, just stuck in a load screen.

this

LukosCreyden · November 2017

Alexandrious wrote: »

mikecrci wrote: »

FF14 is made of Fail and AIDS.

And yet, it has more content. More features, better gear appearance customization, more random things to do, harder more intricate endgame, way more story, is completely optimized, more stable, more mounts, more pets, more....everything.

Only thing eso has on it is a bigger world and much more active combat system......yea...

Oh xiv has better pvp too. Not great pvp, but hey, at least it works and doesnt require to restart the game every 10 to 20 mins.

You must be trollin Son.

Kek

Right there.

When you said FFXIV's PvP was better,
that was when your comment lost credibility.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · November 2017

Wolfshead wrote: »

@Sarato

You put way too much into what Steam and githyp.com but you forget one big thing many old timers (player) like me that have been with ESO since beta or at start did not use steam to buy game most of us did by the game from ZoS so those number you look at are very very wrong.

Besides if the game where dying do you really thing ZoS would make the 10 Million Stories Sweepstakes thing??

Agree!^ This!^^^^
Why do people use Steam as a guide to player base? ESO wasn't even available for Steam till 4 months AFTER launch! And I have NO idea what "GitHyp" is. Never heard of it, and no it is not a valid method of player base numbers either.
Have seen these "ESO Going to Die" threads since beta, then launch, at X-mas 2014, at 1st anniversary, etc.. 3.5 years later it is still going strong.
My example?
I got on this morning just to see. PC/NA.....6:30AM CST...... Loaded in Davon's Watch, Players running around doing writs, crafting, looking for help with dolmans, etc...
Vivec AvA, AD and EP 3 bars, DC 2 bars..almost full campaign at 6:45 AM.
Vvardenfell, Vivec City, lots of folks running around. Went to do my "Treasure Chest Farm" and peeps out in wild running around.
Craglorn, 7AM.... Belkarth had LOTS of folks there. Went to do my "Nirncrux Farm Run" and couldn't as there were peeps doing them already.
I play everyday and at all hours. No the game is not dyeing.

ulrik.igerupb16_ESO wrote: »

It's interesting how the starters of these topics almost never make a second post in their own thread.

So true! So True! ^^^^

technohic · November 2017

I can remember the big question was which would die first. ESO or Wildstar. I wonder who has won

altemriel · November 2017

Sarato wrote: »

Thoughts?
http://steamcharts.com/app/306130
http://www.githyp.com/the-elder-scrolls-online-tamriel-unlimited-100431/

one comment in the second link sums up my answer to your post pretty much:

This is a load of crap. I've not experienced an infinite loading screen, disconnect, or random crash in months. I'm running on a fairly outdated rig and get 50+ FPS at all times. And asserting that the devs are going to abandon the game when they've just released their third expansion in under 6 months is just ridiculous.

And the first link ,with the graph (I have to post it here),

https://i.imgur.com/XtE0TEW.jpg

nope, it is not dying out at all

AnviOfVai · November 2017

It's not dying...and those loading screens are not dying either. Shame.

Jusey1 · November 2017

Take a good look at your calendar... What does it say?

Elsonso · November 2017

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

I play everyday and at all hours. No the game is not dyeing.

There is "A Thing" wrong with the game right now. People are running in circles in a panic, monsters are behind every shadow. Doom is in the air. Eventually, "A Thing" will get fixed, people go back to playing, except for a few who will cling to The Doom, looking for the next "Thing".

wenchmore420b14_ESO · November 2017

lordrichter wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

I play everyday and at all hours. No the game is not dyeing.

There is "A Thing" wrong with the game right now. People are running in circles in a panic, monsters are behind every shadow. Doom is in the air. Eventually, "A Thing" will get fixed, people go back to playing, except for a few who will cling to The Doom, looking for the next "Thing".

Ohhhhhh...... 'THAT Thing"!! ...Stuff and things and other stuff happening too!! Lmao!
Huzzah!

Iccotak · November 2017

Those sources are not good representations of ESO population numbers.
ESO has been doing pretty well and has been continuously gaining more. Better quality and higher population after a pretty quick turn-around.
I don't think it'll ever grow out of WoW's shadow simply due to how it able to remain popular after 13 years since release. It has history and dedicated fans.
Here's to hoping that ESO lasts just as long.

Curragraigue · November 2017

Cool story. Can I have your stuff now!

Huyen · November 2017

People seem to compare these numbers still to the "sky is the limit-WoW" days, where there were indeed over 200 mil subscribers. But there is no way to monitor the exact amount of people playing, unless you got insights in actual server-data. So unless you go online on every platform, 24 hours for a whole month and count the people online (wich is impossible) then stop saying a game is dying.

(That being said, I think most of the franchises are indeed dying because there is to much pay for dlc's going on.)