Those “exploiters”

Bkella · November 2017

Isn’t this ZoS’s fault for having a bug in the game allowing people to kill a boss from a safe area?! How is that a bannable offense for those players if it is built into the game, you should be thanking them for doing some free beta testing and exposing a bug your dev team left out there......

SirAndy · November 2017

ZOS introduced the bug, but it's the players who *knowingly* exploited it.

They didn't just accidentally walk into a bug, they purposely exploited it. Big difference ...

BlazingDynamo · November 2017

1/10 for effort. Try again.

Bkella · November 2017

Playing within the game is all fair.....simple as that. Every dungeon has an opportunity to cheese and people do it everyday, if they cared then they would fix them all

Publius_Scipio · November 2017

ZOS said it is an action that will result in a ban.

LadyNalcarya · November 2017

Its not like they randomly triggered this bug. They found out how to glitch the boss and used that to their advantage.
When you install the game, you have to accept the TOS and it clearly states that if you use cheats and exploits, your account will be suspended. I dont believe that those players were so stupid that they didnt know what they were doing, probably they just saw that people often get away with exploiting and decided to take advantage of it.
Hell, those "free testers" were even trying to sell glitched runs for a few millions gold.

kyle.wilson · November 2017

Bkella wrote: »

Isn’t this ZoS’s fault for having a bug in the game allowing people to kill a boss from a safe area?! How is that a bannable offense for those players if it is built into the game, you should be thanking them for doing some free beta testing and exposing a bug your dev team left out there......

Directly from the ToS

Promote, upload, transmit, encourage or take part in any activity involving hacking, cracking, phishing, taking advantage of exploits or cheats and/or distribution of counterfeit software and/or Virtual Currency or virtual items. In an effort to continuously improve the Services, You and other players discovering exploits, cheats, cracks or other inconsistencies are required to report them to ZeniMax;

No pity given to those banned.
Good riddance to them.

Publius_Scipio · November 2017

kyle.wilson wrote: »

Bkella wrote: »

Isn’t this ZoS’s fault for having a bug in the game allowing people to kill a boss from a safe area?! How is that a bannable offense for those players if it is built into the game, you should be thanking them for doing some free beta testing and exposing a bug your dev team left out there......

Directly from the ToS

Promote, upload, transmit, encourage or take part in any activity involving hacking, cracking, phishing, taking advantage of exploits or cheats and/or distribution of counterfeit software and/or Virtual Currency or virtual items. In an effort to continuously improve the Services, You and other players discovering exploits, cheats, cracks or other inconsistencies are required to report them to ZeniMax;

No pity given to those banned.
Good riddance to them.

Until they pay $30 for the game again, and create a new account.

JamieAubrey · November 2017

What I'm hearing, " I might be one of thos epeople or I know someone that got banned and I'm here trying to fight the cause and get them unbanned"

Tough Titty a bans a ban and I am glad they decided to perm ban them

Chronicburn · November 2017

They got a perma ban for shooting a boss where it couldn’t hit back? Where do you draw the line between smart play and exploiting?
And where do they have time to ban active players with all these bots and macroers running around?

starkerealm · November 2017

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

kyle.wilson wrote: »

Bkella wrote: »

Isn’t this ZoS’s fault for having a bug in the game allowing people to kill a boss from a safe area?! How is that a bannable offense for those players if it is built into the game, you should be thanking them for doing some free beta testing and exposing a bug your dev team left out there......

Directly from the ToS

Promote, upload, transmit, encourage or take part in any activity involving hacking, cracking, phishing, taking advantage of exploits or cheats and/or distribution of counterfeit software and/or Virtual Currency or virtual items. In an effort to continuously improve the Services, You and other players discovering exploits, cheats, cracks or other inconsistencies are required to report them to ZeniMax;

No pity given to those banned.
Good riddance to them.

Until they pay $30 for the game again, and create a new account.

In this case, not even that. They were on PS4, where you can create alt accounts for free. That said, their characters, gear, money spent on crowns... that's all gone, permanently. Which, you know what? That's fine. Someone was crying about how the hundreds they spent on the game went up in smoke for using the exploit.

LadyNalcarya · November 2017

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

kyle.wilson wrote: »

Bkella wrote: »

Isn’t this ZoS’s fault for having a bug in the game allowing people to kill a boss from a safe area?! How is that a bannable offense for those players if it is built into the game, you should be thanking them for doing some free beta testing and exposing a bug your dev team left out there......

Directly from the ToS

Promote, upload, transmit, encourage or take part in any activity involving hacking, cracking, phishing, taking advantage of exploits or cheats and/or distribution of counterfeit software and/or Virtual Currency or virtual items. In an effort to continuously improve the Services, You and other players discovering exploits, cheats, cracks or other inconsistencies are required to report them to ZeniMax;

No pity given to those banned.
Good riddance to them.

Until they pay $30 for the game again, and create a new account.

Nope.
They'd also need to regrind chars, gear and champion points and all their gold, items and collectibles would be lost. Not to mention stuff like horse training and crafting knowledge.

Chronicburn · November 2017

Sounds to me like they were targeted because of a grudge or something. That’s way overkill.

Elsonso · November 2017

Chronicburn wrote: »

They got a perma ban for shooting a boss where it couldn’t hit back? Where do you draw the line between smart play and exploiting?

Sounds like what they found was a way to kill the boss that was clearly not intended by putting themselves into a position that the boss could not get to and could not attack back. Then, apparently, they guided others through this exploit.

xSkullfox · November 2017

We should ban everyone who cheesed FG1 last boss via bridge... its the same
The bans are good but it shows again that the trial was not properly tested against something like that.

I rly support name shaming in that case!

IronCrystal · November 2017

Good riddance.

skyhawk002 · November 2017

Did people actually get banned just now from HM glitch exploit?

Runs · November 2017

skyhawk002 wrote: »

Did people actually get banned just now from HM glitch exploit?

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Recently, a small number of players discovered a way to kill Saint Olms + 2 (Hard mode in Veteran Asylum Sanctorium) from safely outside his room where he could not attack them. This is not only unintended and an exploit, but it cheapens the time and work put in by players who have legitimately beat this fight and earn a very difficult achievement and reward. As a result, we have permanently banned all players – 34 accounts in all – who used the exploit to complete the kill and earn the special achievement and skin in this way. We will not be considering overturns for these account bans. They are permanent and final.

We are working on a fix for this exploit, but we will not be able to deploy it until Monday at the earliest. We will be watching things closely over the weekend. After we deploy the fix on Monday, we will do another audit of kills for this fight. Be warned: we will permanently ban any additional players who use the exploit over the weekend.

Bhaal5 · November 2017

Suprised they didnt get a load screens while exploiting

Bkella · November 2017

Yea all dungeons get cheesed, FG1 on the bridge is a good example. Nerieneth in CH2 on the statue. Sanctum troll boss. And etc....this is all dumb and ZOS is dumb for not fixing things. I won’t even go into the bot farmers that have been photographed and videotaped thousands of times nd still nothing. It’s their fault....

Alexandrious · November 2017

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

kyle.wilson wrote: »

Bkella wrote: »

Isn’t this ZoS’s fault for having a bug in the game allowing people to kill a boss from a safe area?! How is that a bannable offense for those players if it is built into the game, you should be thanking them for doing some free beta testing and exposing a bug your dev team left out there......

Directly from the ToS

Promote, upload, transmit, encourage or take part in any activity involving hacking, cracking, phishing, taking advantage of exploits or cheats and/or distribution of counterfeit software and/or Virtual Currency or virtual items. In an effort to continuously improve the Services, You and other players discovering exploits, cheats, cracks or other inconsistencies are required to report them to ZeniMax;

No pity given to those banned.
Good riddance to them.

Until they pay $30 for the game again, and create a new account.

and then grind all their Alts and get to CP690 again.....I dont feel bad for cheaters but damn, that hurts yo.

Brutusmax1mus · November 2017

Runs wrote: »

skyhawk002 wrote: »

Did people actually get banned just now from HM glitch exploit?

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Recently, a small number of players discovered a way to kill Saint Olms + 2 (Hard mode in Veteran Asylum Sanctorium) from safely outside his room where he could not attack them. This is not only unintended and an exploit, but it cheapens the time and work put in by players who have legitimately beat this fight and earn a very difficult achievement and reward. As a result, we have permanently banned all players – 34 accounts in all – who used the exploit to complete the kill and earn the special achievement and skin in this way. We will not be considering overturns for these account bans. They are permanent and final.

We are working on a fix for this exploit, but we will not be able to deploy it until Monday at the earliest. We will be watching things closely over the weekend. After we deploy the fix on Monday, we will do another audit of kills for this fight. Be warned: we will permanently ban any additional players who use the exploit over the weekend.

Im willing to bet you'll see these players again

Loralai_907 · November 2017

I wouldn't get myself involved with taking advantage of an exploit, but if for some reason I had to start all over, I wouldn't do it. There is nothing in me that would want to lose everything and begin again.

Brutusmax1mus · November 2017

I'm half way inclined to do this and get banned so i stop trying to pvp every day with these gd permascreens. I play this game for fun, and I'm pissed off bc of it. Shouldn't be that way. It would kinda be nice to not have an account, is definitely not start over.

starkerealm · November 2017

Bkella wrote: »

Yea all dungeons get cheesed, FG1 on the bridge is a good example. Nerieneth in CH2 on the statue. Sanctum troll boss. And etc....this is all dumb and ZOS is dumb for not fixing things. I won’t even go into the bot farmers that have been photographed and videotaped thousands of times nd still nothing. It’s their fault....

There's a big difference between a few cheap keys, and some random drops, and getting a world's first with serious bragging rights.

KingMagaw · November 2017

Yes people exploited and they should be banned i think,

But this just reinforces how little the content is tested before being released.

In ESO your almost scared to do anything in case it is an exploit due to poor testing on ZOS part. I found a nice room in Vvardenfell to do stealing in, used it maybe twice then not again just incase i got banned for exploiting when who am i to know if it was intended to be like that, or its a mistake on ZOS part that i would get banned for.

Brutusmax1mus · November 2017

KingMagaw wrote: »

Yes people exploited and they should be banned i think,

But this just reinforces how little the content is tested before being released.

In ESO your almost scared to do anything in case it is an exploit due to poor testing on ZOS part. I found a nice room in Vvardenfell to do stealing in, used it maybe twice then not again just incase i got banned for exploiting when who am i to know if it was intended to be like that, or its a mistake on ZOS part that i would get banned for.

You must be afraid of everything

zaria · November 2017

Bkella wrote: »

Isn’t this ZoS’s fault for having a bug in the game allowing people to kill a boss from a safe area?! How is that a bannable offense for those players if it is built into the game, you should be thanking them for doing some free beta testing and exposing a bug your dev team left out there......

If you can kill an enemy without it fighting back that is an exploit in any MMO even if its an very smart tactic in real world and a single player game.
This is also stated in the rules for all.

You can see this in the game, enemies will not swim so you can do ranged attacks over an river.
You can kill normal mobs easy enough but if you just LA they will recover so you can not snipe an world boss this way.

Samadhi · November 2017

Bkella wrote: »

Isn’t this ZoS’s fault for having a bug in the game allowing people to kill a boss from a safe area?! How is that a bannable offense for those players if it is built into the game, you should be thanking them for doing some free beta testing and exposing a bug your dev team left out there......

Big thanks goes out to the exploiters for exposing a bug that needed fixing
and thanks also goes out to the exploiters for getting banned in a visible enough manner that hopefully other such players will think twice before exploiting in the future

Wreuntzylla · November 2017

kyle.wilson wrote: »

Bkella wrote: »

Isn’t this ZoS’s fault for having a bug in the game allowing people to kill a boss from a safe area?! How is that a bannable offense for those players if it is built into the game, you should be thanking them for doing some free beta testing and exposing a bug your dev team left out there......

Directly from the ToS

Promote, upload, transmit, encourage or take part in any activity involving hacking, cracking, phishing, taking advantage of exploits or cheats and/or distribution of counterfeit software and/or Virtual Currency or virtual items. In an effort to continuously improve the Services, You and other players discovering exploits, cheats, cracks or other inconsistencies are required to report them to ZeniMax;

No pity given to those banned.
Good riddance to them.

I understand getting banned for playing with cheaters, because even if you don't cheat you benefit from it. I don't understand the requirement to report. Forced labor in a game...

I know a guy that's an ordained minister and plays. I am going to make up exploits and confess to him, then see what he does! Priest griefing!

inked1 · November 2017

They exploited a glitch. That is bannable. But what they were also doing was selling skin runs to people while using the glitch. These two things combined is what I think got them (deservedly so) perma banned.