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Why do people sleep on Overwhelming Surge

  • Qbiken
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    The set is OP: Only required on one bar, deals aoe dmg, procs Skoria and procs Concussion (free 8% incoming damage buff). It's ironic that stuff like this and Skoria is still in the game after stam procs got rekt so badly. Underused set which will probably become meta soon.

    The stages of balance:

    * Secret society of PvP players find something broken/OP/exploitable
    * Keeps it a secret for as long as possible
    * Some competent people figure out their setups or someone starts sharing it
    * More people start using the set(s)
    * Small QQ about the set(s) on the forums (where we´re now)
    * Streamers starts using the set(s). At this point the PvP-players that used them from the start usually comes out to say something like: "We told you it was broken on the PTS/BETA but ZOS wouldn´t listen..."
    * Big QQ with multiple threads on the forums.
    * ZOS sees the multiple QQ´s and plans a fix a few patches later, unless something with the set has a very big impact, then it usually goes faster.
  • SirCritical
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    NERF it! Oh wait, no... nerf Warden, blocking and casual tanking instead!
  • VirtualElizabeth
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    KingJ wrote: »
    Stop mention it...
    It's a horrible set!!!!!!!! STOP talking about it NOW
    Never.

    So mean!!!!! :open_mouth:
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  • KingJ
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    KingJ wrote: »
    Stop mention it...
    It's a horrible set!!!!!!!! STOP talking about it NOW
    Never.

    So mean!!!!! :open_mouth:
    I'm a mean person but would you like a cookie.
  • Lexxypwns
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    fred4 wrote: »
    Not suitable for a cloaking magblade, since cloak will activate it, hit the nearest target, and expose you.

    The highest damage against target skeleton, by a small margin, among a handful of sets I use on my magden. Can proc increased damage from concussion. The reason I prefer other sets is for stacking magicka, and hence bigger shields, rather than spell damage. Also going with, say, Necropotence and a crafted set, such as Shacklebreaker allows me to go 5/1/1 on my staff build.

    It's only worth using front bar on a cloak using mageblade imo. That way you can control the proc. This lends itself well to 5/5/2 setups completing the 5pcs on seperate bars
  • Ashamray
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    Can't say that the set is OP. It's strong in one way - when enemy is always on you, eating all the damage. Direct counter is being 13 meters range - easy for many specs.
    Turtling DKs and Templars should suffer, ofc.
    Edited by Ashamray on November 7, 2017 9:40AM
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  • Derra
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    Ashamray wrote: »
    Can't say that the set is OP. It's strong in one way - when enemy is always on you, eating all the damage. Direct counter is being 13 meters range - easy for many specs.
    Turtling DKs and Templars should suffer, ofc.

    Try getting away from a: NB, Templar, DK.

    Getting out of range is really only an option against warden or sorc using it (imo).
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  • Jade1986
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    Xsorus wrote: »

    All I got from that is how annoying heavy armor is.
  • Ashamray
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    Derra wrote: »
    Ashamray wrote: »
    Can't say that the set is OP. It's strong in one way - when enemy is always on you, eating all the damage. Direct counter is being 13 meters range - easy for many specs.
    Turtling DKs and Templars should suffer, ofc.

    Try getting away from a: NB, Templar, DK.

    Getting out of range is really only an option against warden or sorc using it (imo).

    If you are able to stay away 90-100% of the time during the surge proc I would say that surge should get buffed lol. Absolute counter is a crap.
    Edited by Ashamray on November 7, 2017 11:12AM
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  • VirtualElizabeth
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    KingJ wrote: »
    KingJ wrote: »
    Stop mention it...
    It's a horrible set!!!!!!!! STOP talking about it NOW
    Never.

    So mean!!!!! :open_mouth:
    I'm a mean person but would you like a cookie.

    Yes please!!

    But next time remember the rules of Overwhelming Surge Club:
    Number one - We don't talk about Overwhelming Surge
    Number two - WE DON'T TALK ABOUT OVERWHELMING SURGE

    LOL. If you are still willing to give me a cookie now, I prefer Peanut Butter Chocolate Chip. :)
    Edited by VirtualElizabeth on November 7, 2017 7:59PM
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  • Minno
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    I wonder if unstable core redirects OS DMG ;)
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  • KingJ
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    KingJ wrote: »
    KingJ wrote: »
    Stop mention it...
    It's a horrible set!!!!!!!! STOP talking about it NOW
    Never.

    So mean!!!!! :open_mouth:
    I'm a mean person but would you like a cookie.

    Yes please!!

    But next time remember the rules of Overwhelming Surge Club:
    Number one - We don't talk about Overwhelming Surge
    Number two - WE DON'T TALK ABOUT OVERWHELMING SURGE

    LOL. If you are still willing to give me a cookie now, I prefer Peanut Butter Chocolate Chip. :)
    Of course I bake the best cookies.
  • Calboy
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    Don't bother with this set. It will soon be meta and nerfed to the ground.
  • DeHei
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    Its a dot damage... who cares about it? :)
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  • Joy_Division
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    The set is OP: Only required on one bar, deals aoe dmg, procs Skoria and procs Concussion (free 8% incoming damage buff). It's ironic that stuff like this and Skoria is still in the game after stam procs got rekt so badly. Underused set which will probably become meta soon.

    It's not an AoE proc.
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
  • KingJ
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    The set is OP: Only required on one bar, deals aoe dmg, procs Skoria and procs Concussion (free 8% incoming damage buff). It's ironic that stuff like this and Skoria is still in the game after stam procs got rekt so badly. Underused set which will probably become meta soon.

    It's not an AoE proc.
    It deals AOE damage and breaks cloak.
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    KingJ wrote: »
    The set is OP: Only required on one bar, deals aoe dmg, procs Skoria and procs Concussion (free 8% incoming damage buff). It's ironic that stuff like this and Skoria is still in the game after stam procs got rekt so badly. Underused set which will probably become meta soon.

    It's not an AoE proc.
    It deals AOE damage and breaks cloak.

    No it doesn't deal aoe dmg. It does break cloak. This set only targets 1 person.
    Edited by Brutusmax1mus on November 8, 2017 3:06PM
  • KingJ
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    KingJ wrote: »
    The set is OP: Only required on one bar, deals aoe dmg, procs Skoria and procs Concussion (free 8% incoming damage buff). It's ironic that stuff like this and Skoria is still in the game after stam procs got rekt so badly. Underused set which will probably become meta soon.

    It's not an AoE proc.
    It deals AOE damage and breaks cloak.

    No it doesn't deal aoe dmg. It does break cloak. This set only targets 1 person.
    Ik it deals damage to only 1 person but i just thought it was a Wrobel mistake since it breaks cloak.

    Maybe its a AOE proc that can break cloak but only deal single target damage.
  • Baconlad
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    The game does in fact count the damage as AOE unfortunatly...it is buffed by lightning staff passives...
    Edited by Baconlad on November 8, 2017 9:41PM
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Baconlad wrote: »
    The game does in fact count the damage as AOE unfortunatly...it is buffed by lightning staff passives...

    But it's not actually an aoe. It only damages 1 person.
  • Ashamray
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    DeHei wrote: »
    Its a dot damage... who cares about it? :)

    It's buffed with master at arms CP :D
    At least tooltip. Didn't test it.
    Edited by Ashamray on November 8, 2017 11:20PM
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    In pvp, it's probs good for melee magicka builds. In pve, it sucks eggs.
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  • KingJ
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    Baconlad wrote: »
    The game does in fact count the damage as AOE unfortunatly...it is buffed by lightning staff passives...

    But it's not actually an aoe. It only damages 1 person.
    Wrobel man.
  • Waffennacht
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    Baconlad wrote: »
    The game does in fact count the damage as AOE unfortunatly...it is buffed by lightning staff passives...

    But it's not actually an aoe. It only damages 1 person.

    But it does have an "area of effect" lol
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  • Dredlord
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    Baconlad wrote: »
    The game does in fact count the damage as AOE unfortunatly...it is buffed by lightning staff passives...

    But it's not actually an aoe. It only damages 1 person.

    But it does have an "area of effect" lol

    Perhaps we can all agree its an aoe with max targets = 1?
    Edited by Dredlord on November 9, 2017 6:45PM
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