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How to get a successful pug group for trials.
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Probably a stupid question with the only answer being "you don't"
Today has been a nightmare, nhof pug group who think ignoring basic mechanics is easier than doing the mechanics correctly, quitters constantly, half team gone by last boss had to wait for members to find players.
took us 2 hours to do the dungeon, where if we had just done what was need we could have done it in an hour or less.
I joined for the triplets the night before and the entire team left at the end boss.
then after finally completing it, I hosted and found an entire group for vAA which took up to an hour of spamming zone chat in all zones. We got to the storm atro just for the healer to tell us that the other healer had 28k health and was using the heavy armour shield, he doesn't play with noobs, quit and the entire team disolved. We didn't even attemp to attack the boss other than when I triad to find a replacement healer they agrod and the entire team got wiped, left and disbanded.
How do I find a pug group for vet trials, or even normal trials where it is just simple and we run through as needed without all the bs that comes with it.
Edited by Stinkyremy on November 6, 2017 11:50PM Today has been a nightmare, nhof pug group who think ignoring basic mechanics is easier than doing the mechanics correctly, quitters constantly, half team gone by last boss had to wait for members to find players.
took us 2 hours to do the dungeon, where if we had just done what was need we could have done it in an hour or less.
I joined for the triplets the night before and the entire team left at the end boss.
then after finally completing it, I hosted and found an entire group for vAA which took up to an hour of spamming zone chat in all zones. We got to the storm atro just for the healer to tell us that the other healer had 28k health and was using the heavy armour shield, he doesn't play with noobs, quit and the entire team disolved. We didn't even attemp to attack the boss other than when I triad to find a replacement healer they agrod and the entire team got wiped, left and disbanded.
How do I find a pug group for vet trials, or even normal trials where it is just simple and we run through as needed without all the bs that comes with it.
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X_LadyPhoenix_X✭✭✭You have already answered yourself... Find a guild... It's usually the best way to get a group for trials.
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Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭X_LadyPhoenix_X wrote: »You have already answered yourself... Find a guild... It's usually the best way to get a group for trials.
I recently started another thread about the elitism I recently experienced in a trial guild, I started a thread here a few weeks ago looking for a guild for end game content as I am fed up with pug groups and just want to complete trails with people who are just playing the trail to complete it.
I experienced the other end of the spectrum where I am treated like a leper and not even reinvited to do trials with them specifically because they want to get on the leaderboards and I don't have the gear they think I need so i am not worthy.
irony here is that they didn't even finish the trail either!
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fioskal✭✭✭If you don't have a trial guild, your best bet is to stack it with people you know are good/friends/etc. Each person from zone is an unknown factor - could be really good, could be really bad. For normals I'll grab a group from zone no problem, if I'm doing a vet I'd hesitate to grab more than a few. I'm not interested in wasting anyone's time, and rather would have a run that I can be pretty sure will be fairly smooth.-Fiona-
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✭✭✭✭So... the healer with 28k HP and shield was bad, but you doing dps with your shield is okay? xD4 -
raj72616a✭✭✭✭✭a pug with a mag dps on sword and shield can't be a successful pug.
/threadEdited by raj72616a on November 7, 2017 12:12AM4 -
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There is more than 1 guild in this game. If one guild was bad find another one. Simple.Stinkyremy wrote: »I recently started another thread about the elitism I recently experienced in a trial guild
Yes, people want to complete trials. But will this trial be easy for them to complete with "DD" who's doing dps with his sword and board? Nope.I started a thread here a few weeks ago looking for a guild for end game content as I am fed up with pug groups and just want to complete trails with people who are just playing the trail to complete it.
If the guild wants to complete a trial with highest possible score, you as a member of the guild and this trial group, need to perform well to help them achieve this. If you don't wanna support your group with anything, then looks like group content is not for you.I experienced the other end of the spectrum where I am treated like a leper and not even reinvited to do trials with them specifically because they want to get on the leaderboards and I don't have the gear they think I need so i am not worthy.2 -
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There is more than 1 guild in this game. If one guild was bad find another one. Simple.Stinkyremy wrote: »I recently started another thread about the elitism I recently experienced in a trial guild
Yes, people want to complete trials. But will this trial be easy for them to complete with "DD" who's doing dps with his sword and board? Nope.I started a thread here a few weeks ago looking for a guild for end game content as I am fed up with pug groups and just want to complete trails with people who are just playing the trail to complete it.
If the guild wants to complete a trial with highest possible score, you as a member of the guild and this trial group, need to perform well to help them achieve this. If you don't wanna support your group with anything, then looks like group content is not for you.I experienced the other end of the spectrum where I am treated like a leper and not even reinvited to do trials with them specifically because they want to get on the leaderboards and I don't have the gear they think I need so i am not worthy.
If you remember from the other thread, I didn't make the orc mag DK to do trials with, I made the alt as a fun char to play as, Doing vet dungeons. Might even take min in Vma. Although I have done normal trials with the alt already.
There is nothing wrong with the dps on that char, it is just the autismos who believe that a sword and board dps cannot dps good.
I'm talking about my main, nord DK tank.
I didn't say anything about the 28k health healer, I couldn't even see his health, it was the other healer who called him out and started crying like a baby then quit before the trail even began properly.
"If the guild wants to complete a trial with highest possible score"
Yeah well this is the thing, I started the thread looking for group for end game content, the guy messaged me on PSN, asked me what gear I had, if I had warhorn ect. Made sure I know mechs, all standard questions to be expected form allowing someone to join your trial team for an "interview".
It wasn't until we were IN the trial vAA and I asked them why they didn't do the cheat/skip and they said they are going for score.
I asked them why and they never even answered. I never made any mistakes, never died, never taunted the main tanks target. Not been invited back and have been ignored.
To me a trial is a means to an end, to get gold jewellery, not for epeen, or that I have to play it so rigorously, how I am "commanded", that actually playing the trial is not fun.
I never asked for an elitism guild, I just said i'm looking for a group to do end game content with because pug grouping is killing me a little inside every time I do a trial with them.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Stinkyremy wrote: »
How do I find a pug group for vet trials
You don't.
Of course, you can try, but most likely you'll keep wiping.
But I have an idea: if you have a thing for sword and board dds and healers, you could make your own guild. No rules, 100% "play as you want". Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭LadyNalcarya wrote: »Stinkyremy wrote: »
How do I find a pug group for vet trials
You don't.
Of course, you can try, but most likely you'll keep wiping.
But I have an idea: if you have a thing for sword and board dds and healers, you could make your own guild. No rules, 100% "play as you want".
" if you have a thing for sword and board dds and healers"
wtf is that supposed to mean?
Do you think I am *** because I make 1 alt with an unconventional set up?
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✭✭✭✭✭Stinkyremy wrote: »LadyNalcarya wrote: »Stinkyremy wrote: »
How do I find a pug group for vet trials
You don't.
Of course, you can try, but most likely you'll keep wiping.
But I have an idea: if you have a thing for sword and board dds and healers, you could make your own guild. No rules, 100% "play as you want".
" if you have a thing for sword and board dds and healers"
wtf is that supposed to mean?
Do you think I am *** because I make 1 alt with an unconventional set up?
Grow up child.
Lol, I didnt say that. You did.
Actually making a new guild is a good solution for people who dont want to follow the rules of existing guilds. Chances are you’re not alone, and you could try to find likeminded people.
At least thats much more productive than blaming others.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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If you didn't get invited back to other runs, maybe it's you or your attitude? I spent a lot of time taking groups on Vet trial training runs, what was most important wasn't "insane" dps, it was people's attitudes while in the trial, and judging by how you act, whether or not you're a good tank/DD or not, I wouldn't have you in my group.
To be fair, most people here do doubt most of what you say, as you are unable to actually back up any of your claims. If you're adamant that your alt can pull "insane" dps(chances are unlikely) then maybe it's your tanking skills need some work, but because of your "I'm always right" attitude, people don't want to help you.Edited by Bisbatron on November 7, 2017 1:03PM1 -
Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭LadyNalcarya wrote: »Stinkyremy wrote: »LadyNalcarya wrote: »Stinkyremy wrote: »
How do I find a pug group for vet trials
You don't.
Of course, you can try, but most likely you'll keep wiping.
But I have an idea: if you have a thing for sword and board dds and healers, you could make your own guild. No rules, 100% "play as you want".
" if you have a thing for sword and board dds and healers"
wtf is that supposed to mean?
Do you think I am *** because I make 1 alt with an unconventional set up?
Grow up child.
Lol, I didnt say that. You did.
Actually making a new guild is a good solution for people who dont want to follow the rules of existing guilds. Chances are you’re not alone, and you could try to find likeminded people.
At least thats much more productive than blaming others.
I was actually thinking about it, nearly every guild I have been in seems to not be about helping the guldies but more about accumulating money for the few.
Though I don't want to actually start a guild, and I wont be able to make a successful guild on my own, it would be nice to be in a traditional guild where prices in guild store are set to benefirt guildies rather than profit from them and guild bank is used as a way for players to help each other rather than for guild leadership to profit from.0 -
xRIVALENx✭✭✭Stinkyremy wrote: »
I was actually thinking about it, nearly every guild I have been in seems to not be about helping the guldies but more about accumulating money for the few.
Though I don't want to actually start a guild, and I wont be able to make a successful guild on my own, it would be nice to be in a traditional guild where prices in guild store are set to benefirt guildies rather than profit from them and guild bank is used as a way for players to help each other rather than for guild leadership to profit from.
You are in the wrong type of guild if they are focused primarily on the guild store and procuring profit. PVE focused guilds are out there, you just have to find them.
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✭✭✭If you are on NA/PC you can join Friendly Dungeon Runners ( link in signature ). Even if you are already in a trial guild, you can use FDR as a filler for when players need to leave your group for what ever reason. Not many of us do Vet Trials but there are a few members in the guild that have.
Each week when I do trials I normally have to fill with players from zone. The reason is not everyone wants to run trials 2/3 times every week. For the most part I don't have any problems with pugs. Every now and then I will get one that doesn't wait for others then just rushes to the next section of the trial, and some times I get a troll that wants to complain about everything.
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X_LadyPhoenix_X✭✭✭Stinkyremy wrote: »X_LadyPhoenix_X wrote: »You have already answered yourself... Find a guild... It's usually the best way to get a group for trials.
I recently started another thread about the elitism I recently experienced in a trial guild, I started a thread here a few weeks ago looking for a guild for end game content as I am fed up with pug groups and just want to complete trails with people who are just playing the trail to complete it.
I experienced the other end of the spectrum where I am treated like a leper and not even reinvited to do trials with them specifically because they want to get on the leaderboards and I don't have the gear they think I need so i am not worthy.
irony here is that they didn't even finish the trail either!
You play on PS4 now yes? I could shoot you an invite to the guild I run. We're more a social guild, but trying to work on getting the vet end game content done. There are some requirements we're trying to implement, but nothing to drastic I think. We're looking to just get completions in Vet trials atm, but unfortunately I'm unable to find ppl that really want to give it effort...Mistress of Shadows (GM) <ShadowKnight Syndicate>
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✭✭✭✭✭Stinkyremy wrote: »
I experienced the other end of the spectrum where I am treated like a leper and not even reinvited to do trials with them specifically because they want to get on the leaderboards and I don't have the gear they think I need so i am not worthy.
irony here is that they didn't even finish the trail either!
There are guilds that are focused on competition, and there are guilds that are not. I have two social guilds that run Trials on a weekly basis, both Normal and Vet. For the Vet, we expect you to know what you are doing, but you learn that running the normals. In the normals we teach people about the mechanics, and run the trial like it's Vet so we don't learn any bad habits.
Competition Trials guilds are pretty obvious as to who they want in the guild, its easy to find them, and avoid them, as the case may be.
Find a good guild, and trials will be part of your game play. If your PC/NA, I can get you into two guilds that are good.
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