Gulnagel wrote: »

I'm just curious because I main a templar healer and have a warden collecting dust.

Is the maturation bugg fixed?

And is nature's grasp better now with the increased speed and healing?

Warden Bow healer on my signature. Probably need to update the build though, but you get the idea if you see it.

CSessions wrote: »

Vet trial healer running SPC MA and Earthgore. My build is pure heals with high magicka sustain. I don't have my skill line handy as I'm at work, but traditional healing/buffs from both resto staff and green skill line. Have healed all vet content other than vHoF so far as main healer. I generally pull 50%+ of the group heals while my counterpart templar pulls about 30 to 35% with the group pulling the remainder via self heals.

Please do share your skill line when you got a chance ☺

CSessions wrote: »

Vet trial healer running SPC MA and Earthgore. My build is pure heals with high magicka sustain. I don't have my skill line handy as I'm at work, but traditional healing/buffs from both resto staff and green skill line. Have healed all vet content other than vHoF so far as main healer. I generally pull 50%+ of the group heals while my counterpart templar pulls about 30 to 35% with the group pulling the remainder via self heals.

So funny that some healer are still proud of their group heal %... Dont know your build/Skill but I have seen a lot player posting "have 60% group heal" and only spams heal... I prefer the one with 30% that also uses CP, Shards/Bubbles, etc.

Tryxus wrote: »

SPC x5 Twilight Remedy x5 with Master Resto & Lightning Staves

Front Bar, Resto:
- Blue Betty
- Combat Prayer
- Healing Springs
- Corrupting Pollen
- Dampen Magic

Ulti: Healing Thicket

Back Bar, Lightning:
- Lotus Blossom
- Living Trellis/Elemantal Drain
- Lightning Blockade
- Enchanted Growth
- Energy Orv

Ulti: Aggresive War Horn

Been healing Craglorn HM trials, vMoL HM and vAS with this. Haven't had the chance to do vHoF yet

And do you feel like warden are weaker than a templar or maybe better? I mean no disrespect im just curious, because warden isn't getting much love.

And if you prefer a warden, why? ☺

Edit: solid build btw

HotR 4-man content healer (yet to test it after nerfs this patch).

5 master architect
5 spell power cure
1 master resto
1 maelstrom/master lightning
Both weapons are decisive

Destro bar:
Blockade, ele drain, shock clench, harness magicka, expansive frost cloak.
Aggressive horn

Resto bar:
Combat prayer, rapid regen, healing springs, blue betty, energy orbs.
Healing thicket.

I definately dont main a healer so I don't know much about it but this build is very fun to play.
Popping warhorn at start of every boss fight and healing thickets whenever you can pop it to keep uptime on major slayer.
Just have to make sure both dps are between you and the tank. Lots of people hate the clutter that healing thicket brings, you can just drop ulti off to the side of the group or behind boas so that its not in the way and if the group wants the heal they just need to step into it and can leave immediately.

This being said I havent played it since they nerfed the heal and increased cost but it's still a viable build but only for 4 man content.

Gulnagel wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

SPC x5 Twilight Remedy x5 with Master Resto & Lightning Staves

Front Bar, Resto:
- Blue Betty
- Combat Prayer
- Healing Springs
- Corrupting Pollen
- Dampen Magic

Ulti: Healing Thicket

Back Bar, Lightning:
- Lotus Blossom
- Living Trellis/Elemantal Drain
- Lightning Blockade
- Enchanted Growth
- Energy Orv

Ulti: Aggresive War Horn

Been healing Craglorn HM trials, vMoL HM and vAS with this. Haven't had the chance to do vHoF yet

And do you feel like warden are weaker than a templar or maybe better? I mean no disrespect im just curious, because warden isn't getting much love.

And if you prefer a warden, why? ☺

Edit: solid build btw

Big thank you to @Dakmor_Kavu , who told me about the Twilight Remedy

I never played Templer tbh, this is my 1st healer. However, based on what I've seen and experienced during trial runs, I think that when it comes to pure healing, the Warden has a higher Heal Output than the Templar. Wardens have 3 really strong AoE burst heals, as well as strong passives in their Green Balance tree.

On the other hand, Templars have the support skills needed as a healer built into their class toolkit: Resource return (Shards), Magickasteal (Radiant Aura), Purge (Ritual). Skills that the Warden has to get from other skill trees, and are less effective.

For PvE, I would say Templar is the best but Warden is a close second. And for PvP, it would be reversed

CSessions wrote: »

Zapzarap wrote: »

CSessions wrote: »

Vet trial healer running SPC MA and Earthgore. My build is pure heals with high magicka sustain. I don't have my skill line handy as I'm at work, but traditional healing/buffs from both resto staff and green skill line. Have healed all vet content other than vHoF so far as main healer. I generally pull 50%+ of the group heals while my counterpart templar pulls about 30 to 35% with the group pulling the remainder via self heals.

So funny that some healer are still proud of their group heal %... Dont know your build/Skill but I have seen a lot player posting "have 60% group heal" and only spams heal... I prefer the one with 30% that also uses CP, Shards/Bubbles, etc.

As a warden doesn't have shards that would be impossible. As to the others they are part of my rotation as well. I send "bubbles" out regularly, I use combat prayer regularly (it only hits half the group so the other healer uses it as well), I utilize all of my buffs/debuffs available while still pulling those numbers. A Warden has much higher heals than a templar healer, a templar has more buffs than a warden. Templar and warden healers work exceptionally well together with different sets of buffs for the group but the warden takes care of the larger group heals. So before posting rubbish like this, take a moment and consider what you're typing before you type...mmmk baby boy?

Not sure where you are getting your math, but wardens having more raw heal throughput is objectively false plain and simple. The HPS between the 2 is actually very close to one another.

As far as this mystical assumption that templars are giving more buffs than otheer healers including warden is also completely false.

Unique group buffs a templar (healer) generally provides are as follows..

Aoe minor magicka steal - aoe application if this debuff is unique to templars. It is usefull in instances with multiple mobs and a dps comp that is magicka based. Entirely useless in single target bossfights, where ele drain is generally slotted whichall healers have access to.

Minor fracture amd breach - while these debuffs are exactly exclusive to templar, and also most stamplar dps will be slotting this anyways, power of the light is a more practical way to apply these debuffs than the alternatives in game.

Aaaaannd.... thats it. Really that is the extent of "templar buffing". Take note if the following..

Shards and orbs - ive pointed this out countless times and ill do so again here. Shards have the benefit of speed and target accuracy. You can place them exactly where you need to. However, this is a single synergy per cast, and thus has limited application range. Orbs, while slower, can reach multiple group memebers within a time frame. The important take away here is while it might be slower to get your tank the critical resources using orbs (depending on your position), you CAN reach more players and not have to suspend healing in that dame time frame. For shards, for each target you want to give shards to, you have to eat the GCD each and every time.

Also we do not bother mentioning the unique minor buffs that each class has. These are essentially class buffs that attempt to create an incentive to bring at leaat one of each class to a large trial group. They are designed in a very specific way that generally results in each class giving this buff regardless of there spec or role choice.

While Templars bring minor magicka steal aoe, wardens provide minor endurence and minor intellect. Since the player base pretends sorc healers dont exists unfortunately, minor intellect is usually given to allies by warden healers. And like player perception of sorc healers, cielce of protection is generally not worth the slot as it is far too expensive and limited in range to slot just to give allies minor endurance. This is not to mention a few classes can get this buff for themselves on stam builds.

Your arbitrary classification and division between these two healers strength and weaknesses is nonexistent. They both heal and buff as needed just as any other healer in the game, and they do it in different mechanical ways, the unqiue perks that each bring is unique yet fills a very small niche that is not a deal breaker for most end game vet trials. There are analogues to everything in this game in one form or another. Its that simple.

My warden healer is in necropotence , shackle breaker and a single monster piece I think slime raw but am not sure. Right now if we run a dungeon we go normal since I don't have orbs yet. I have played her mostly in cyrodill and just got her up to level 50 during the witches festival.

Being able to throw mushrooms everyone's feet instead of shards every time I turn around is why I love my Warden healer. Gives me more time to focus on throwing bubbles and purging. I've seen healers in this game think there crap doesn't stink and they stink.. biggest reason I see groups fail is bad healers... just like dps, there are plenty..