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XBox One X - Will it help?
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RandomName123✭✭✭From the post:
"....
With the Xbox One X, The Elder Scrolls Online runs very close to the equivalent of Ultra settings on PC. This means that the game has never looked better on Xbox. Here's a breakdown of some of the new features and improvements coming very soon:
Native 4K resolution
Upgraded shadows with Screen Space Ambient Occlusion
Upgraded water reflections
Increased view distance
....."
I appreciate the fact that they did this, but my fear is that by increasing these settings we lessen the improvement to be had in the area of FPS and performance. I would rather have kept the same graphical quality and instead boosted FPS and stability. But, maybe we still get both... we'll see tomorrow I guess.
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭RandomName123 wrote: »From the post:
"....
With the Xbox One X, The Elder Scrolls Online runs very close to the equivalent of Ultra settings on PC. This means that the game has never looked better on Xbox. Here's a breakdown of some of the new features and improvements coming very soon:
Native 4K resolution
Upgraded shadows with Screen Space Ambient Occlusion
Upgraded water reflections
Increased view distance
....."
I appreciate the fact that they did this, but my fear is that by increasing these settings we lessen the improvement to be had in the area of FPS and performance. I would rather have kept the same graphical quality and instead boosted FPS and stability. But, maybe we still get both... we'll see tomorrow I guess.
Sorry but those of us upgrading our xbox one experience just like those who pay $200-$800 to upgrade their PC experience aren't spending that for only FPS. Its illogical to improve your video card and CPU this much for the game to look the same.
Also higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was other than in a few sparse situation which applies to all platforms. Sorry but a lot of people would not agree with your preference however, you can just stay on the xbox one s and use an SSD drive with update 16 performance improvements for much cheaper.
-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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LiquidPony✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »RandomName123 wrote: »From the post:
"....
With the Xbox One X, The Elder Scrolls Online runs very close to the equivalent of Ultra settings on PC. This means that the game has never looked better on Xbox. Here's a breakdown of some of the new features and improvements coming very soon:
Native 4K resolution
Upgraded shadows with Screen Space Ambient Occlusion
Upgraded water reflections
Increased view distance
....."
I appreciate the fact that they did this, but my fear is that by increasing these settings we lessen the improvement to be had in the area of FPS and performance. I would rather have kept the same graphical quality and instead boosted FPS and stability. But, maybe we still get both... we'll see tomorrow I guess.
Sorry but those of us upgrading our xbox one experience just like those who pay $200-$800 to upgrade their PC experience aren't spending that for only FPS. Its illogical to improve your video card and CPU this much for the game to look the same.
Also higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was other than in a few sparse situation which applies to all platforms. Sorry but a lot of people would not agree with your preference however, you can just stay on the xbox one s and use an SSD drive with update 16 performance improvements for much cheaper.
"higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was"
Uhh ...
I run well under 10 FPS in Trials and in Cyrodiil. I'm not even being hyperbolic when I say 1-2 FPS is not uncommon. FPS is absolutely an issue on xbox.7 -
RouDeR✭✭✭✭✭
✭U shoud not worry about the graphic quality as it is GPU dependant and GPU is not the cause of the huge fps drops on consoles, its the CPU so the CPU core boost on Xbox one is getting boost by around 35% so you can expect the fps to be more stable in trials and Cyroo . For example on my PS4 in zerg huge zergfights i was getting around 5-10fps and after i bought PS4 PRO and SSD my fps in the same fights was around 10-20. In general if there are below 40 people in battle you will get 25-30 fps all the time .0 -
MJallday✭✭✭✭✭
✭ForMalacath wrote: »Brilliant news! I have my X on the way tomorrow
yup me too. pick it up at 9am. get it home at 10am, transfer everything accross by 10.30 game goes offline for about 6 hours at 11am ....
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LiquidPony wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »RandomName123 wrote: »From the post:
"....
With the Xbox One X, The Elder Scrolls Online runs very close to the equivalent of Ultra settings on PC. This means that the game has never looked better on Xbox. Here's a breakdown of some of the new features and improvements coming very soon:
Native 4K resolution
Upgraded shadows with Screen Space Ambient Occlusion
Upgraded water reflections
Increased view distance
....."
I appreciate the fact that they did this, but my fear is that by increasing these settings we lessen the improvement to be had in the area of FPS and performance. I would rather have kept the same graphical quality and instead boosted FPS and stability. But, maybe we still get both... we'll see tomorrow I guess.
Sorry but those of us upgrading our xbox one experience just like those who pay $200-$800 to upgrade their PC experience aren't spending that for only FPS. Its illogical to improve your video card and CPU this much for the game to look the same.
Also higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was other than in a few sparse situation which applies to all platforms. Sorry but a lot of people would not agree with your preference however, you can just stay on the xbox one s and use an SSD drive with update 16 performance improvements for much cheaper.
"higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was"
Uhh ...
I run well under 10 FPS in Trials and in Cyrodiil. I'm not even being hyperbolic when I say 1-2 FPS is not uncommon. FPS is absolutely an issue on xbox.
You may need to contact support, not joking as FPS drops but you comment that its well under 10 FPS consistently in Trials and Cyrodil.
That's not normal....
I'm on xbox One S now but that's been just a recent change, I've been on xbox one using an external HD, not SSD just a normal external 3.0 USB and am not having FPS that low consistently.
I did trials a lot in the past and that wasn't the experience, its most often 30 and sometimes iit drops to 25-ish
NOW one of the trials has performance issues never fixed but that's only one.
Cyrodil and IC haven't been a major issue either in terms of 10 FPS, now its not a full 30 FPS all the time but never 10 and below consistently.
Check and make sure you're good on your end as there is something else going bad. Hope you get it worked out
Edited by NewBlacksmurf on November 6, 2017 7:33PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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LiquidPony✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »RandomName123 wrote: »From the post:
"....
With the Xbox One X, The Elder Scrolls Online runs very close to the equivalent of Ultra settings on PC. This means that the game has never looked better on Xbox. Here's a breakdown of some of the new features and improvements coming very soon:
Native 4K resolution
Upgraded shadows with Screen Space Ambient Occlusion
Upgraded water reflections
Increased view distance
....."
I appreciate the fact that they did this, but my fear is that by increasing these settings we lessen the improvement to be had in the area of FPS and performance. I would rather have kept the same graphical quality and instead boosted FPS and stability. But, maybe we still get both... we'll see tomorrow I guess.
Sorry but those of us upgrading our xbox one experience just like those who pay $200-$800 to upgrade their PC experience aren't spending that for only FPS. Its illogical to improve your video card and CPU this much for the game to look the same.
Also higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was other than in a few sparse situation which applies to all platforms. Sorry but a lot of people would not agree with your preference however, you can just stay on the xbox one s and use an SSD drive with update 16 performance improvements for much cheaper.
"higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was"
Uhh ...
I run well under 10 FPS in Trials and in Cyrodiil. I'm not even being hyperbolic when I say 1-2 FPS is not uncommon. FPS is absolutely an issue on xbox.
You may need to contact support, not joking as FPS drops but you comment that its well under 10 FPS consistently in Trials and Cyrodil.
That's not normal....
I'm on xbox One S now but that's been just a recent change, I've been on xbox one using an external HD, not SSD just a normal external 3.0 USB and am not having FPS that low consistently.
I did trials a lot in the past and that wasn't the experience, its most often 30 and sometimes iit drops to 25-ish
NOW one of the trials has performance issues never fixed but that's only one.
Cyrodil and IC haven't been a major issue either in terms of 10 FPS, now its not a full 30 FPS all the time but never 10 and below consistently.
Check and make sure you're good on your end as there is something else going bad. Hope you get it worked out
Nah. I don't know when this "in the past" was, but since HotR Trials have been absolutely abysmal. I saw you comment on DJMuscleBoy's post this morning that included a video of the Triplets fight, and that performance is the same performance you'll see on Rakkhat, on most bosses in AA, on Ozara and The Serpent, on Ra'Kotu, and elsewhere.
I get slightly better performance on my X1S, but the frame rate in Trials is just as bad. I spend probably 15-20 hours a week in Trials, run them basically every day with several different raid guilds, and everyone in every group I run with experiences the exact same issues. We all have to force-quit ESO and restart the game at some point, which improves FPS dramatically for a short time and then it slowly degrades back to flip-book quality.
TBH I don't think you know what you're talking about. Not trying to be rude but if you're not doing Trials right now, you have no idea what performance is like in Trials.4 -
RandomName123✭✭✭LiquidPony wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »RandomName123 wrote: »From the post:
"....
With the Xbox One X, The Elder Scrolls Online runs very close to the equivalent of Ultra settings on PC. This means that the game has never looked better on Xbox. Here's a breakdown of some of the new features and improvements coming very soon:
Native 4K resolution
Upgraded shadows with Screen Space Ambient Occlusion
Upgraded water reflections
Increased view distance
....."
I appreciate the fact that they did this, but my fear is that by increasing these settings we lessen the improvement to be had in the area of FPS and performance. I would rather have kept the same graphical quality and instead boosted FPS and stability. But, maybe we still get both... we'll see tomorrow I guess.
Sorry but those of us upgrading our xbox one experience just like those who pay $200-$800 to upgrade their PC experience aren't spending that for only FPS. Its illogical to improve your video card and CPU this much for the game to look the same.
Also higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was other than in a few sparse situation which applies to all platforms. Sorry but a lot of people would not agree with your preference however, you can just stay on the xbox one s and use an SSD drive with update 16 performance improvements for much cheaper.
"higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was"
Uhh ...
I run well under 10 FPS in Trials and in Cyrodiil. I'm not even being hyperbolic when I say 1-2 FPS is not uncommon. FPS is absolutely an issue on xbox.
Yea same performance for me and everyone in my small guild. We do mostly small man (4-6 man PvP) groups. Myself and a couple others have the S with a top of the line SSD and it is still really poor FPS. It's so bad we purposely try to spread out and away from high traffic areas, otherwise it's like beating your head on a table. But it is never anywhere near 30FPS regardless. I saw one of the devs comment about the CPU usage vs GPU so my hope is that this update, along with the X, will give us both FPS and graphical quality improvements. Guess I'll know shortly.2 -
KingJ✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'll rather play at 1080p with 60fps any day of the week than 4k and 30 fps.If zos make that a option I'm taking it and that's the same for all my multiplayer games. Depending on how for honor runs on the new xbox I probably start playing that again.4 -
MJallday✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'll rather play at 1080p with 60fps any day of the week than 4k and 30 fps.If zos make that a option I'm taking it and that's the same for all my multiplayer games. Depending on how for honor runs on the new xbox I probably start playing that again.
its going to run at 4k at 30dps. thats already been confirmed on several sites.
whats more interesting is that on bethesda's twitter feed from this evening (and updated today). they say the 4k for xbox one wont be released until next week!!!
< link to tweet
https://bethesda.net/en/article/3Fc5lXAaFOSE6W2y8IgEE4/the-power-of-x-comes-to-bethesda-titles < link to where it says it will be next week - note the date is today....
but then THIS link, https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26225 - says its tommorow!!!
im confused lol
Edited by MJallday on November 6, 2017 9:51PM0 -
KingJ✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm talking about other games Developer's have a choice I dont give to craps about 4k as I said before I dont think they will be that big of a performance boost I just don't trust zos enough to put the time in.I'll rather play at 1080p with 60fps any day of the week than 4k and 30 fps.If zos make that a option I'm taking it and that's the same for all my multiplayer games. Depending on how for honor runs on the new xbox I probably start playing that again.
its going to run at 4k at 30dps. thats already been confirmed on several sites.
whats more interesting is that on bethesda's twitter feed from this evening (and updated today). they say the 4k for xbox one wont be released until next week!!!
< link to tweet
https://bethesda.net/en/article/3Fc5lXAaFOSE6W2y8IgEE4/the-power-of-x-comes-to-bethesda-titles < link to where it says it will be next week - note the date is today....
but then THIS link, https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26225 - says its tommorow!!!
im confused lol
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MJallday✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm talking about other games Developer's have a choice I dont give to craps about 4k as I said before I dont think they will be that big of a performance boost I just don't trust zos enough to put the time in.
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maybe, i actually think what will happen is the update will come out, and it will have a negative impact on the original xbox and xbox one s (perfomrance speaking)
either way, it wont be 60fps. itll be 30fps. in fact if you look at the list of 4k games on the MS site, theres only about 5 games supporting 60fps
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QUEZ420✭✭✭✭I upgraded from my OG ps4 to the ps4 pro a yr ago n imho it wuz a massive jump in performance over the original model so I'd imagine wit the xbox1x dominating the pro as far as specs then yes it'll definitely b worth the upgrade! Ofc its not gonna fix all eso's problems (laughs n points at Cryodil) but it'll b a boost in performance for sure. Go for it n ejoy!1
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KingJ✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm talking about other games Developer's have a choice I dont give to craps about 4k as I said before I dont think they will be that big of a performance boost I just don't trust zos enough to put the time in.
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maybe, i actually think what will happen is the update will come out, and it will have a negative impact on the original xbox and xbox one s (perfomrance speaking)
either way, it wont be 60fps. itll be 30fps. in fact if you look at the list of 4k games on the MS site, theres only about 5 games supporting 60fps
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Which i mentioned in my OP I dont care about 4k I'll ratherrun 1080p with 60fps for the games that allow it.
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socivL✭✭✭THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »
Also, no I’m not going to PC and no you can’t have my stuff. Thanks!
@THEDKEXPERIENCE
just curious - are you going to the PS4 - and if so, will you bring your stuff and can i have it there?2 templars - 1 cup1 -
cbdfarm✭✭✭Native 4k HDR confirmed, and the patch is already showing if you know how to make it show... To do that you must have all your games transfered to a external harddrive, go to games and apps unplug the hard drive, wait a few moment for the "ready to install" games list to load, then click it, click the xbox one enchanced menu and youll see all the games that have a patch. That is secret right now to view all your owned xbox one x enhanced games.
""Finally, an update for The Elder Scrolls Online is on the way next week that adds native 4K and HDR support (which suggests the other games will offer neither native 4K nor HDR, at least for the time being). Additionally, the view distance has been increased, and water reflections and shadows (with SSAO) have been "upgraded."
The Elder Scrolls Online
Supports Native 4K Resolution and HDR
Enhanced features include:
Increased view distance
Upgraded shadows with Screen Space Ambient Occlusion
Upgraded water reflections"
https://gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-x-enhancements-for-skyrim-wolfenstein-2-f/1100-6454709/
Video on how to check for hidden xbox one x enhanced games if you didnt understand how I explained it.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EA2AoqBAygI&t=61s
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Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'll rather play at 1080p with 60fps any day of the week than 4k and 30 fps.If zos make that a option I'm taking it and that's the same for all my multiplayer games. Depending on how for honor runs on the new xbox I probably start playing that again.
its going to run at 4k at 30dps. thats already been confirmed on several sites.
whats more interesting is that on bethesda's twitter feed from this evening (and updated today). they say the 4k for xbox one wont be released until next week!!!
< link to tweet
https://bethesda.net/en/article/3Fc5lXAaFOSE6W2y8IgEE4/the-power-of-x-comes-to-bethesda-titles < link to where it says it will be next week - note the date is today....
but then THIS link, https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26225 - says its tommorow!!!
im confused lol
Now im confused as well. So my Xbox One X will not improve how my ESO looks for a whole week?
Has anyone gotten this cleared up?0 -
MaxwellC✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@THEDKEXPERIENCE
You know damn well the added anything will not solve the problems this game has server side and I too haven't played this game in months (unless you count two days ago when a mate asked me for something he needed crafted).
The new Xbox one X only provides graphical enhancements and nothing more now in theory the added performance boost should alleviate lag caused by low end hardware but that only works if hardware is the problem and not server/software.不動の Steadfast - Unwavering
XBL Gamer Tag - Maxwell
XB1 Maxwell Crystal - NA DC CP 800+ Redguard Stamina DK
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PC Maxwell-Crystal - NA DC - CP 200+ Brenton Magicka DK 「Retired」Band Camp statements: To state "But this one time I saw X doing X... so that justifies X" Refers to the Band camp statement.
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LiquidPony wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »RandomName123 wrote: »From the post:
"....
With the Xbox One X, The Elder Scrolls Online runs very close to the equivalent of Ultra settings on PC. This means that the game has never looked better on Xbox. Here's a breakdown of some of the new features and improvements coming very soon:
Native 4K resolution
Upgraded shadows with Screen Space Ambient Occlusion
Upgraded water reflections
Increased view distance
....."
I appreciate the fact that they did this, but my fear is that by increasing these settings we lessen the improvement to be had in the area of FPS and performance. I would rather have kept the same graphical quality and instead boosted FPS and stability. But, maybe we still get both... we'll see tomorrow I guess.
Sorry but those of us upgrading our xbox one experience just like those who pay $200-$800 to upgrade their PC experience aren't spending that for only FPS. Its illogical to improve your video card and CPU this much for the game to look the same.
Also higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was other than in a few sparse situation which applies to all platforms. Sorry but a lot of people would not agree with your preference however, you can just stay on the xbox one s and use an SSD drive with update 16 performance improvements for much cheaper.
"higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was"
Uhh ...
I run well under 10 FPS in Trials and in Cyrodiil. I'm not even being hyperbolic when I say 1-2 FPS is not uncommon. FPS is absolutely an issue on xbox.
You may need to contact support, not joking as FPS drops but you comment that its well under 10 FPS consistently in Trials and Cyrodil.
That's not normal....
I'm on xbox One S now but that's been just a recent change, I've been on xbox one using an external HD, not SSD just a normal external 3.0 USB and am not having FPS that low consistently.
I did trials a lot in the past and that wasn't the experience, its most often 30 and sometimes iit drops to 25-ish
NOW one of the trials has performance issues never fixed but that's only one.
Cyrodil and IC haven't been a major issue either in terms of 10 FPS, now its not a full 30 FPS all the time but never 10 and below consistently.
Check and make sure you're good on your end as there is something else going bad. Hope you get it worked out
Nah. I don't know when this "in the past" was, but since HotR Trials have been absolutely abysmal. I saw you comment on DJMuscleBoy's post this morning that included a video of the Triplets fight, and that performance is the same performance you'll see on Rakkhat, on most bosses in AA, on Ozara and The Serpent, on Ra'Kotu, and elsewhere.
I get slightly better performance on my X1S, but the frame rate in Trials is just as bad. I spend probably 15-20 hours a week in Trials, run them basically every day with several different raid guilds, and everyone in every group I run with experiences the exact same issues. We all have to force-quit ESO and restart the game at some point, which improves FPS dramatically for a short time and then it slowly degrades back to flip-book quality.
TBH I don't think you know what you're talking about. Not trying to be rude but if you're not doing Trials right now, you have no idea what performance is like in Trials.
Oh o k well looks like you got all the answers and got it figured out.
PvP is no different in how it was for us on PC prior to me moving to Xbox. On PC they’ve made changes that can’t apply to console but it’s been a known issue prior to console release. The game was built to be a problem but when you say your FPS are 10 and below....constantly....I’m telling you that’s something you can resolve. Its not a solid 30 but above 10 consistently is possible.
It’s one trial that’s an issue right now and the past was just before Morrowind and the two weeks after in terms of the last time doing trials.
All else is just the game and Xbox one performance. I️ play on a PC rarely too and it’s better in terms of cpu but that’s cause PC allows many different hardware builds.
The realistic solution is Xbox one x or quit.
Shrug it’s thats simple at this point if FPS is a major concern.Edited by NewBlacksmurf on November 7, 2017 12:17AM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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RouDeR✭✭✭✭✭
✭60 fps never gonna happen on this console cycle , as long as the normal xbox and ps4 are playing ESO on 30 fps all other newer consoles will be also locked at 30fps for sake of BALANCE even if for example the PS5 and Xbox 2 come out in 2020 year if they are linked to the same ESO servers as the older consoles their framerate will be locked at 30 . This is a console policy and its never gonna change unless the newer consoles have seperate servers than yes 60 fps will exist. If you dont like it buy i7 7700 and GTX 1080 ti and knockyourself out.1 -
LiquidPony✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »RandomName123 wrote: »From the post:
"....
With the Xbox One X, The Elder Scrolls Online runs very close to the equivalent of Ultra settings on PC. This means that the game has never looked better on Xbox. Here's a breakdown of some of the new features and improvements coming very soon:
Native 4K resolution
Upgraded shadows with Screen Space Ambient Occlusion
Upgraded water reflections
Increased view distance
....."
I appreciate the fact that they did this, but my fear is that by increasing these settings we lessen the improvement to be had in the area of FPS and performance. I would rather have kept the same graphical quality and instead boosted FPS and stability. But, maybe we still get both... we'll see tomorrow I guess.
Sorry but those of us upgrading our xbox one experience just like those who pay $200-$800 to upgrade their PC experience aren't spending that for only FPS. Its illogical to improve your video card and CPU this much for the game to look the same.
Also higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was other than in a few sparse situation which applies to all platforms. Sorry but a lot of people would not agree with your preference however, you can just stay on the xbox one s and use an SSD drive with update 16 performance improvements for much cheaper.
"higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was"
Uhh ...
I run well under 10 FPS in Trials and in Cyrodiil. I'm not even being hyperbolic when I say 1-2 FPS is not uncommon. FPS is absolutely an issue on xbox.
You may need to contact support, not joking as FPS drops but you comment that its well under 10 FPS consistently in Trials and Cyrodil.
That's not normal....
I'm on xbox One S now but that's been just a recent change, I've been on xbox one using an external HD, not SSD just a normal external 3.0 USB and am not having FPS that low consistently.
I did trials a lot in the past and that wasn't the experience, its most often 30 and sometimes iit drops to 25-ish
NOW one of the trials has performance issues never fixed but that's only one.
Cyrodil and IC haven't been a major issue either in terms of 10 FPS, now its not a full 30 FPS all the time but never 10 and below consistently.
Check and make sure you're good on your end as there is something else going bad. Hope you get it worked out
Nah. I don't know when this "in the past" was, but since HotR Trials have been absolutely abysmal. I saw you comment on DJMuscleBoy's post this morning that included a video of the Triplets fight, and that performance is the same performance you'll see on Rakkhat, on most bosses in AA, on Ozara and The Serpent, on Ra'Kotu, and elsewhere.
I get slightly better performance on my X1S, but the frame rate in Trials is just as bad. I spend probably 15-20 hours a week in Trials, run them basically every day with several different raid guilds, and everyone in every group I run with experiences the exact same issues. We all have to force-quit ESO and restart the game at some point, which improves FPS dramatically for a short time and then it slowly degrades back to flip-book quality.
TBH I don't think you know what you're talking about. Not trying to be rude but if you're not doing Trials right now, you have no idea what performance is like in Trials.
Oh o k well looks like you got all the answers and got it figured out.
PvP is no different in how it was for us on PC prior to me moving to Xbox. On PC they’ve made changes that can’t apply to console but it’s been a known issue prior to console release. The game was built to be a problem but when you say your FPS are 10 and below....constantly....I’m telling you that’s something you can resolve. Its not a solid 30 but above 10 consistently is possible.
It’s one trial that’s an issue right now and the past was just before Morrowind and the two weeks after in terms of the last time doing trials.
All else is just the game and Xbox one performance. I️ play on a PC rarely too and it’s better in terms of cpu but that’s cause PC allows many different hardware builds.
The realistic solution is Xbox one x or quit.
Shrug it’s thats simple at this point if FPS is a major concern.
You haven't run Trials in five months, so why do you think you've got anything useful to say about Trials performance?
You saw the video of the Triplets fight already--that's how Trials play right now on XB1. Across the board. This is not a *me* problem. You can see the other folks in this thread, including some of the top players on this platform, saying the same thing. I've got Band chats full of people who've quit the game, moved to PC, or are on the verge of doing one or the other.
Framerates below 10 FPS are absolutely par for the course in a lot of Trials fights right now. This is not hyperbole. Like I said previously, if you haven't been running Trials since HotR, then you have no idea what you're talking about. Performance degraded significantly with that update.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭LiquidPony wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »RandomName123 wrote: »From the post:
"....
With the Xbox One X, The Elder Scrolls Online runs very close to the equivalent of Ultra settings on PC. This means that the game has never looked better on Xbox. Here's a breakdown of some of the new features and improvements coming very soon:
Native 4K resolution
Upgraded shadows with Screen Space Ambient Occlusion
Upgraded water reflections
Increased view distance
....."
I appreciate the fact that they did this, but my fear is that by increasing these settings we lessen the improvement to be had in the area of FPS and performance. I would rather have kept the same graphical quality and instead boosted FPS and stability. But, maybe we still get both... we'll see tomorrow I guess.
Sorry but those of us upgrading our xbox one experience just like those who pay $200-$800 to upgrade their PC experience aren't spending that for only FPS. Its illogical to improve your video card and CPU this much for the game to look the same.
Also higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was other than in a few sparse situation which applies to all platforms. Sorry but a lot of people would not agree with your preference however, you can just stay on the xbox one s and use an SSD drive with update 16 performance improvements for much cheaper.
"higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was"
Uhh ...
I run well under 10 FPS in Trials and in Cyrodiil. I'm not even being hyperbolic when I say 1-2 FPS is not uncommon. FPS is absolutely an issue on xbox.
You may need to contact support, not joking as FPS drops but you comment that its well under 10 FPS consistently in Trials and Cyrodil.
That's not normal....
I'm on xbox One S now but that's been just a recent change, I've been on xbox one using an external HD, not SSD just a normal external 3.0 USB and am not having FPS that low consistently.
I did trials a lot in the past and that wasn't the experience, its most often 30 and sometimes iit drops to 25-ish
NOW one of the trials has performance issues never fixed but that's only one.
Cyrodil and IC haven't been a major issue either in terms of 10 FPS, now its not a full 30 FPS all the time but never 10 and below consistently.
Check and make sure you're good on your end as there is something else going bad. Hope you get it worked out
Nah. I don't know when this "in the past" was, but since HotR Trials have been absolutely abysmal. I saw you comment on DJMuscleBoy's post this morning that included a video of the Triplets fight, and that performance is the same performance you'll see on Rakkhat, on most bosses in AA, on Ozara and The Serpent, on Ra'Kotu, and elsewhere.
I get slightly better performance on my X1S, but the frame rate in Trials is just as bad. I spend probably 15-20 hours a week in Trials, run them basically every day with several different raid guilds, and everyone in every group I run with experiences the exact same issues. We all have to force-quit ESO and restart the game at some point, which improves FPS dramatically for a short time and then it slowly degrades back to flip-book quality.
TBH I don't think you know what you're talking about. Not trying to be rude but if you're not doing Trials right now, you have no idea what performance is like in Trials.
Oh o k well looks like you got all the answers and got it figured out.
PvP is no different in how it was for us on PC prior to me moving to Xbox. On PC they’ve made changes that can’t apply to console but it’s been a known issue prior to console release. The game was built to be a problem but when you say your FPS are 10 and below....constantly....I’m telling you that’s something you can resolve. Its not a solid 30 but above 10 consistently is possible.
It’s one trial that’s an issue right now and the past was just before Morrowind and the two weeks after in terms of the last time doing trials.
All else is just the game and Xbox one performance. I️ play on a PC rarely too and it’s better in terms of cpu but that’s cause PC allows many different hardware builds.
The realistic solution is Xbox one x or quit.
Shrug it’s thats simple at this point if FPS is a major concern.
You haven't run Trials in five months, so why do you think you've got anything useful to say about Trials performance?
You saw the video of the Triplets fight already--that's how Trials play right now on XB1. Across the board. This is not a *me* problem. You can see the other folks in this thread, including some of the top players on this platform, saying the same thing. I've got Band chats full of people who've quit the game, moved to PC, or are on the verge of doing one or the other.
Framerates below 10 FPS are absolutely par for the course in a lot of Trials fights right now. This is not hyperbole. Like I said previously, if you haven't been running Trials since HotR, then you have no idea what you're talking about. Performance degraded significantly with that update.
You know sometimes people on the forums have access to things prior to others. Maybe I’m trying to help but I️ see you’re all set.
Don’t worry about it man. You’re good as you suggest.
Happy. Gaming-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Krayzie✭✭✭✭✭RandomName123 wrote: »From the post:
"....
With the Xbox One X, The Elder Scrolls Online runs very close to the equivalent of Ultra settings on PC. This means that the game has never looked better on Xbox. Here's a breakdown of some of the new features and improvements coming very soon:
Native 4K resolution
Upgraded shadows with Screen Space Ambient Occlusion
Upgraded water reflections
Increased view distance
....."
I appreciate the fact that they did this, but my fear is that by increasing these settings we lessen the improvement to be had in the area of FPS and performance. I would rather have kept the same graphical quality and instead boosted FPS and stability. But, maybe we still get both... we'll see tomorrow I guess.
OH WOW I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE WATER REFLECTIONS AND LARGER DRAW DISTANCE AS I'M AT 5 FPS IN CYRODIIL
What a jokeI'm a PVE roleplayer concerned about my vampires stage 4 skin tone and keep getting load screens so I came here to distract people from major issues with a rant thread about my characters cosmetic appearance.3 -
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✭LiquidPony wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »RandomName123 wrote: »From the post:
"....
With the Xbox One X, The Elder Scrolls Online runs very close to the equivalent of Ultra settings on PC. This means that the game has never looked better on Xbox. Here's a breakdown of some of the new features and improvements coming very soon:
Native 4K resolution
Upgraded shadows with Screen Space Ambient Occlusion
Upgraded water reflections
Increased view distance
....."
I appreciate the fact that they did this, but my fear is that by increasing these settings we lessen the improvement to be had in the area of FPS and performance. I would rather have kept the same graphical quality and instead boosted FPS and stability. But, maybe we still get both... we'll see tomorrow I guess.
Sorry but those of us upgrading our xbox one experience just like those who pay $200-$800 to upgrade their PC experience aren't spending that for only FPS. Its illogical to improve your video card and CPU this much for the game to look the same.
Also higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was other than in a few sparse situation which applies to all platforms. Sorry but a lot of people would not agree with your preference however, you can just stay on the xbox one s and use an SSD drive with update 16 performance improvements for much cheaper.
"higher FPS isn't the issue on xbox one and never was"
Uhh ...
I run well under 10 FPS in Trials and in Cyrodiil. I'm not even being hyperbolic when I say 1-2 FPS is not uncommon. FPS is absolutely an issue on xbox.
You may need to contact support, not joking as FPS drops but you comment that its well under 10 FPS consistently in Trials and Cyrodil.
That's not normal....
I'm on xbox One S now but that's been just a recent change, I've been on xbox one using an external HD, not SSD just a normal external 3.0 USB and am not having FPS that low consistently.
I did trials a lot in the past and that wasn't the experience, its most often 30 and sometimes iit drops to 25-ish
NOW one of the trials has performance issues never fixed but that's only one.
Cyrodil and IC haven't been a major issue either in terms of 10 FPS, now its not a full 30 FPS all the time but never 10 and below consistently.
Check and make sure you're good on your end as there is something else going bad. Hope you get it worked out
Nah. I don't know when this "in the past" was, but since HotR Trials have been absolutely abysmal. I saw you comment on DJMuscleBoy's post this morning that included a video of the Triplets fight, and that performance is the same performance you'll see on Rakkhat, on most bosses in AA, on Ozara and The Serpent, on Ra'Kotu, and elsewhere.
I get slightly better performance on my X1S, but the frame rate in Trials is just as bad. I spend probably 15-20 hours a week in Trials, run them basically every day with several different raid guilds, and everyone in every group I run with experiences the exact same issues. We all have to force-quit ESO and restart the game at some point, which improves FPS dramatically for a short time and then it slowly degrades back to flip-book quality.
TBH I don't think you know what you're talking about. Not trying to be rude but if you're not doing Trials right now, you have no idea what performance is like in Trials.
Oh o k well looks like you got all the answers and got it figured out.
PvP is no different in how it was for us on PC prior to me moving to Xbox. On PC they’ve made changes that can’t apply to console but it’s been a known issue prior to console release. The game was built to be a problem but when you say your FPS are 10 and below....constantly....I’m telling you that’s something you can resolve. Its not a solid 30 but above 10 consistently is possible.
It’s one trial that’s an issue right now and the past was just before Morrowind and the two weeks after in terms of the last time doing trials.
All else is just the game and Xbox one performance. I️ play on a PC rarely too and it’s better in terms of cpu but that’s cause PC allows many different hardware builds.
The realistic solution is Xbox one x or quit.
Shrug it’s thats simple at this point if FPS is a major concern.
You haven't run Trials in five months, so why do you think you've got anything useful to say about Trials performance?
You saw the video of the Triplets fight already--that's how Trials play right now on XB1. Across the board. This is not a *me* problem. You can see the other folks in this thread, including some of the top players on this platform, saying the same thing. I've got Band chats full of people who've quit the game, moved to PC, or are on the verge of doing one or the other.
Framerates below 10 FPS are absolutely par for the course in a lot of Trials fights right now. This is not hyperbole. Like I said previously, if you haven't been running Trials since HotR, then you have no idea what you're talking about. Performance degraded significantly with that update.
This. All of it.
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C4Bliss✭✭✭kypranb14_ESO wrote: »As a long time player on Xbox who did switch to PC, I can tell you what I did to improve my Xbox One's ESO performance tenfold!
Xbox One's biggest bottleneck is it's 5400 RPM Hard Drive. If you are thinking about investing $500 into the Xbox One X, which if I remember correctly, has the same grabage Hard Drive in it.
Why not spend $130-$150 on a Solid State Drive instead? This cut my Xbox One load times into highly populated areas like Stormhaven-Wayrest from ~40 seconds, to ~10 seconds.
I guess IF you have cash running from every pocket, you could do both the Xbox One X, and buy a Solid State Drive. Therefore getting the graphical enhancement of the Xbox One X, and the huge performance boost of the Solid State Drive!
Here is a Youtube link with installation info, and links to purchasing the necessary hardware. WARNING! You need to buy at least a 256GB+ SSD in order for it to be compatible with your Xbox One. I bought the 500GB Samsung linked in his video description.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=t4evch303C4
Disclaimer-
By upgrading to a SSD you can expect much faster load times, a small improvement to the frame loss from massive PVP battles and less disconnects in Cyrodiil.
What not to expect- Anything higher than the 30 FPS the Xbox One is capped at, a better graphical experience, and perfection.
The Xbox One still has a poor CPU and moderate at best GPU, so upgrading one element for the system doesn't mean you're suddenly a PC gamer.
Hope this helps! -Kypran
So I was planning to get the Samsung portable t5 250gb... but that wont work? Cause the 500gb is ridiculously expensive in my country.1 -
Khrogo✭✭✭Would running an external USB3 SSD attached to my Xbox yield any benefit? Unlike PS4, the internal drive iis inaccessible without voiding the warranty.0
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✭Would running an external USB3 SSD attached to my Xbox yield any benefit? Unlike PS4, the internal drive iis inaccessible without voiding the warranty.
It helped loading time(starting game, loading screen when wayshrining)...rendering time...etc... I hardly see the black characters when loading into a busy zone...and if I do it is for a fraction of a second... Doesn't help lag or FPS issues though...0 -
Khrogo✭✭✭Would running an external USB3 SSD attached to my Xbox yield any benefit? Unlike PS4, the internal drive iis inaccessible without voiding the warranty.
It helped loading time(starting game, loading screen when wayshrining)...rendering time...etc... I hardly see the black characters when loading into a busy zone...and if I do it is for a fraction of a second... Doesn't help lag or FPS issues though...
Thanks. That’s good to know. As long as it’s an improvement using an external SSD, I’m all in.0
