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Remove CP from battlegrounds
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Sixty5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It can't.
CP battlegrounds were an awful idea.Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
I play a character called "Gives Me Wood Elf" because I am a mature and sensible person.
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Solariken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »
Haha. Hahahahahahaha. Hahahahhahahahaha.
Forgive my rudeness but I can't sit back and let someone get away with saying something so crazy...22 -
sigirri✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »
I'm am personally cp 610, but I can't force my teammates to go grind, and even with grinding cp takes months to cap. I'm not fantastic at pvp, but I can tell something isn't right when a 690 is running circles around 2 or 3 cp 100-300 players, and not even breaking a sweat.Edited by sigirri on November 5, 2017 9:14PM4 -
Docmandu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Edited by Docmandu on November 5, 2017 1:26PM7 -
React✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »
Cp straight up are not balanced. Please don't come out here claiming they are with out any argument as to why, when so many arguments with valid reasoning against it already exist here. Even when you have max Cp, 690 points to spend just creates unintentionally strong builds and basically eliminates weaknesses from certain specs, where those weaknesses would normally be the counter to the build. If youve ever spent a good amount of time playing no Cp (assuming no Cp bgs or an active nonchamp campaign) you'd immediately realize how much more balanced pvp combat is without cp.@ReactSlower - PC/NA - 2000+ CP
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TheBonesXXX✭✭✭✭✭
✭Emma_Overload wrote: »
No, its not.. Its contradictory to a lot of the changes made in the game. They changed the veteran content originally because it took so long to hit the original v10 then v12, turned around and put that length into the Champ Tree, that's contradictory.
Leveling doesn't start at 1-50, it starts at champ 1 and ends at damn near champ 1000 now, that's not a good design. They could have made champ tree system more reflective of the series and used to improve functions in crafting, mounts, etc.. many better ways to implement champ trees and champ functions.
Could have introduced new tiers of upgrades which require points in champ trees and other ways to implement the system but instead we got the mess that is champ progression now.
This is ELDER SCROLLS before an MMO and the title comes before the genre, the genre is only needed to sell; its a misnomer really. It just barely needs to be an MMO, but it what it really needs to be is definitely an Elder Scrolls.
CP was not well thought out and rushed to because people wanted their constellation system so bad, but like all of the other marvelous blunders; it was a huge reason why people left this game.
People have lives, people already put in their time for the grind in other MMOs. No one wants to do that tedious, repetitive ***, they want to get in, get built up, get into the fray; kill everyone hiding behind the gear and grind who pass as just good enough to be good and log the *** out and look cool while doing it.
Not jump through hoops of stupid and ridiculousness because someone no lifes this game and would be upset because some guy took half the time to get situation and turned around and stomped 'em.
Besides, most of the guys in gold had their *** handed to them by their no lifing PvE guild mates anyway.
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Maikon✭✭✭✭Pvp is supposed to be balanced. How can a 690 vs a 280 ever be balanced?
Why should a 280 be able to compete with a 690? The 690 has put the time and effort into getting that cp, so he should have an advantage. Stop with all this balance ***, if you wanna be on the same playing field, put the *** effort into it like everyone else.4 -
Weng✭✭✭Pvp in an mmo will never be balanced.
Do you use CP160 gear in non-CP pvp? It's pretty certain that you do.
And in the non-CP campaign there are tanks that can kite 5 players around a tree for eternity. The guilds that run groups with such builds don't tell us how they achieved that. But I guess it is a special combination of gear you grind from PVE dungeons or even trials.
With cp they are more common and stronger, but damage dealers have also more crit, penentration, damage, etc.
With or without cp there is no balance in sight.1 -
Autumnhart✭✭✭✭
Whereas I find it surprising so many PVPers are happy to have the playing field tilted before the competition even begins. I'd rather have a good fight and a win I earned.
Before you tell me to grind: I'm already maxed. A bad system that gives me an advantage is still a bad system.Shadow hide you.10 -
Lloydmp✭✭✭First time iv been moved to actually post,
and iv only been around since beta!
CP in battle grounds has been an awful experience. I solo mostly and I kill more than I die even against premades but CP gives too much in 4v4v4.
At the very least give us an option for a none CP battle ground2 -
ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Pvp is supposed to be balanced. How can a 690 vs a 280 ever be balanced?
Why should a 280 be able to compete with a 690? The 690 has put the time and effort into getting that cp, so he should have an advantage. Stop with all this balance ***, if you wanna be on the same playing field, put the *** effort into it like everyone else.
Because they both want competition... which is why they go play PvP in general and BGs in particular. I realize you don't like competition though. I wonder why that might be...DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
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sigirri✭✭Pvp is supposed to be balanced. How can a 690 vs a 280 ever be balanced?
Why should a 280 be able to compete with a 690? The 690 has put the time and effort into getting that cp, so he should have an advantage. Stop with all this balance ***, if you wanna be on the same playing field, put the *** effort into it like everyone else.
Is it common to read only the first post in a thread and not any of the other posts?I'm am personally cp 610, but I can't force my teammates to go grind, and even with grinding cp takes months to cap. I'm not fantastic at pvp, but I can tell something isn't right when a 690 is running circles around 2 or 3 cp 100-300 players, and not even breaking a sweat.
Here you go, buds.Edited by sigirri on November 5, 2017 9:14PM1 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »
Lol oh really? And let me guess, Nightblades are OP, and magicka needs a buff. Amirite?0 -
Eldar_Ftw✭✭The only people who want cp in bgs are the ones who can't 1vs1 a somewhat balanced match/fight. "Just grind it like everyone else", when you need over 600 cp just to do a SIMPLE mode, that is a *** poor design.
EVERY MMO the last decade has some sort of "normal" (in this case none cp) mode for pvp/bgs, the difference between someone who's 690 cp and less than 400 cp is like having the New England Patriots vs a middle school football team.1 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »
Lol oh really? And let me guess, Nightblades are OP, and magicka needs a buff. Amirite?Emma_Overload wrote: »
Lol oh really? And let me guess, Nightblades are OP, and magicka needs a buff. Amirite?
Well, magDK and magtemplar could use some love for PvE0 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm sure this will have the exact effect they were after.Emma_Overload wrote: »
Not enough people playing Battlegrounds, let's force less people to play by making them go to Skyreach for a week or two.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »
Lol oh really? And let me guess, Nightblades are OP, and magicka needs a buff. Amirite?Emma_Overload wrote: »
Lol oh really? And let me guess, Nightblades are OP, and magicka needs a buff. Amirite?
Well, magDK and magtemplar could use some love for PvE
In PvE, but certainly not PvP.0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »
Lol oh really? And let me guess, Nightblades are OP, and magicka needs a buff. Amirite?Emma_Overload wrote: »
Lol oh really? And let me guess, Nightblades are OP, and magicka needs a buff. Amirite?
Well, magDK and magtemplar could use some love for PvE
In PvE, but certainly not PvP.
All classes overperform in the correct hands in PvP (at least that´s my experience of PvP). MagDK needs sustainbuffs in PvE and Magplar needs fixes to their skills. But nothing really CP related :P
I don´t necessary think CP is bad for the game. I´m just wondering why they keep adding 30 CP each update......0 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »
Lol oh really? And let me guess, Nightblades are OP, and magicka needs a buff. Amirite?Emma_Overload wrote: »
Lol oh really? And let me guess, Nightblades are OP, and magicka needs a buff. Amirite?
Well, magDK and magtemplar could use some love for PvE
In PvE, but certainly not PvP.
All classes overperform in the correct hands in PvP (at least that´s my experience of PvP). MagDK needs sustainbuffs in PvE and Magplar needs fixes to their skills. But nothing really CP related :P
I don´t necessary think CP is bad for the game. I´m just wondering why they keep adding 30 CP each update......
At this rate build variety will eventually be non-existent since everyone will have an excess of CP. I'm already at that point really in the green and red tree.0 -
WaltherCarraway✭✭✭✭✭Can we show some love to MagDK in PvP? Current hard-mode of ESOBack from my last hiatus. 2021 a new start.0 -
Pastas✭✭✭I like no CP pvp, but why remove CP BG?, there are players who prefer CP BG.
Just give us the chance to choose CP or no CP in the queue, if population is not high enough for both, people will move to the most populated choice.
Edited by Pastas on November 6, 2017 11:39AMWARNINGThis post may Include horrible gramatical and orthographic errorsRead on your own riskAD
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Baconlad✭✭✭✭✭
✭At this point in the game its not the CP that are unbalanced, its certain builds that are. 690 to 690, the issue in the fight is not CP...it would be ur opponents build and skill level. I have personally seen a stamplar get 18 kills and zero deaths in a deathmatch round...it was not a premade, he solo Qed. Why couldnt 8 other players kill him? Maybe they werent 690cp, maybe their builds were not perfected, maybe they suck. I have fought that same player in a duel with his same build and lost 2, but won 1 duel against him. All were very close. If a player is running circles around you in a battle ground its not him thats unbalanced, its that you suck.
CP is in fact balanced...everyone has access to it, everyone can reach max CP reletively quickly. Its funny how players consider CP to be a crutch when the same could be said for *** players using no CP as a crutch in dealing with very skilled players. If you want a game where you can play in completely level playing fields, where only player skill is a factor, go play heroes of the storm, or LoL, or WoW, or the plethora of other games that do not allow you to finely tune you characters stats and dont allow you to theorycraft.
No CP has an identical amount of issues regarding balance that CP battlegrounds have. If you think otherwise you do not understand the game. Go out there, farm CP, stop bitching, and build your character properly, play for a bit then come back and lets chat about how much you still cant beat other players. Maybe youtube builds will help you. CP or not i do not care, ill still whoop ass and players will still complain about how unbalanced somthing is. Ive lost duels to every DPS spec and class, ive also won against the same DPS specs and classes...equal CP...unbalanced when i lose but not when i win? No2 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭WaltherCarraway wrote: »Can we show some love to MagDK in PvP? Current hard-mode of ESO
Lol you're joking. I can three shot the majority of players in this game without an ultimate on my magDK. I find medium armor stamDK to be much more difficult to be successful with in PvP.2 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I like no CP pvp, but why remove CP BG?, there are players who prefer CP BG.
Just give us the chance to choose CP or no CP in the queue, if population is not high enough for both, people will move to the most populated choice.
One could argue that this is the obvious approach they should've went with.0 -
Raudgrani✭✭✭✭✭
✭Pvp is supposed to be balanced. How can a 690 vs a 280 ever be balanced?
Why should a 280 be able to compete with a 690? The 690 has put the time and effort into getting that cp, so he should have an advantage. Stop with all this balance ***, if you wanna be on the same playing field, put the *** effort into it like everyone else.
Agreed. I really dislike most of this "balance" talk. Another thing making it obvious most players are millennials, "it's not fair!". Yeah, life isn't fair. But often it's rewarding, it rewards those who work hard. This ain't the Soviet Union.0 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Pvp is supposed to be balanced. How can a 690 vs a 280 ever be balanced?
Why should a 280 be able to compete with a 690? The 690 has put the time and effort into getting that cp, so he should have an advantage. Stop with all this balance ***, if you wanna be on the same playing field, put the *** effort into it like everyone else.
Agreed. I really dislike most of this "balance" talk. Another thing making it obvious most players are millennials, "it's not fair!". Yeah, life isn't fair. But often it's rewarding, it rewards those who work hard. This ain't the Soviet Union.
The main gripe is that both options aren't available. So we're being forced to play a game mode where victory is primarily going to be determined by whoever has the team with the most seniority rather than skill. Wouldn't having the option to choose game mode and CP or non-CP be a more capitalistic approach?Edited by Strider__Roshin on November 6, 2017 12:27PM1
