Cybercore_Death wrote: »Would it be worth using Martial Knowledge in place of Willpower to get the 4 piece bonus rather than wasting a slot?
If you want. juilanos+BSW is a viable alternative.
Cybercore_Death wrote: »Would it be worth using Martial Knowledge in place of Willpower to get the 4 piece bonus rather than wasting a slot?
Yes. Very viable indeed.
Cybercore_Death wrote: »Cybercore_Death wrote: »Would it be worth using Martial Knowledge in place of Willpower to get the 4 piece bonus rather than wasting a slot?
Yes. Very viable indeed.
This is good to know thanks oh.
In terms of body / jewellery pieces does it matter how they’re arranged?
Cybercore_Death wrote: »Cybercore_Death wrote: »Would it be worth using Martial Knowledge in place of Willpower to get the 4 piece bonus rather than wasting a slot?
Yes. Very viable indeed.
This is good to know thanks oh.
In terms of body / jewellery pieces does it matter how they’re arranged?
Not really. As long as you have a MK staff on one bar you're good to go
Cybercore_Death wrote: »Would it be worth using Martial Knowledge in place of Willpower to get the 4 piece bonus rather than wasting a slot?
I ran 1pc Iceheart, 5pc Sun, & 5pc Juli last patch (adapted from the Alcast build) and parsed between 29-30k on the dummy.
At the suggestion of one of my guildies, I've since switched to 2pc Grothdarr, 5pc BSW, 1pc vMA inferno (frontbar, infused), and 3/4pc IA (3pc on the frontbar with jewelry, 4pc on the backbar with IA lightning staff).
I'm now parsing slightly over 32k, AND I have much better AoE for clearing trash mobs (from Grothdarr, and the vMA staff effect when applied to lightning heavy attacks). Would definitely recommend this setup over the previous one.
Numbers are a little lower as I'm unfortunately a Breton instead of Dunmer.
Running lightning blockade on the backbar will get you better numbers in solo content and dummy parses because you don't have any other sources of whip procs apart from rearming trap. But I found it hella awkward to use, since the typical mDK rotation only brings you to your backbar every 18-ish seconds (to reapply eruption, FoO and trap) which is pretty habitual to me at this point.
In a raid scenario you'll have all the off-balance you need from magsorcs and magblades to a lesser extent, so I stick with fire blockade frontbar for the sheer damage output it provides.
Either way you won't spend enough time on the backbar for a charged backbar staff to provide much benefit. YouTubers have been suggesting nirn'd, but personally I prefer Sharpened on the backbar since it's the only trait that carries over to the frontbar in the context of ground-targeted AoEs (in this case Eruption and Standard. Not sure about FoO yet, I'll have to test it).
Interestingly though, according to Gilliam, charged on the frontbar is now BiS for solo content (topping even infused).
Cybercore_Death wrote: »Running lightning blockade on the backbar will get you better numbers in solo content and dummy parses because you don't have any other sources of whip procs apart from rearming trap. But I found it hella awkward to use, since the typical mDK rotation only brings you to your backbar every 18-ish seconds (to reapply eruption, FoO and trap) which is pretty habitual to me at this point.
In a raid scenario you'll have all the off-balance you need from magsorcs and magblades to a lesser extent, so I stick with fire blockade frontbar for the sheer damage output it provides.
Either way you won't spend enough time on the backbar for a charged backbar staff to provide much benefit. YouTubers have been suggesting nirn'd, but personally I prefer Sharpened on the backbar since it's the only trait that carries over to the frontbar in the context of ground-targeted AoEs (in this case Eruption and Standard. Not sure about FoO yet, I'll have to test it).
Interestingly though, according to Gilliam, charged on the frontbar is now BiS for solo content (topping even infused).
That’s pretty much the problem I found with it. It’s just doesn’t flow naturally with the rotation due to timings.
Actually didn’t know that about sharpened. Some good info. I’m running infused atm for both my 5 Julianos, 5 Sun / BSW / 1 Iceheart and my 5 BSW, 4 MK and 2 Skoria / Groth. I’ve got flame staff front with shock enchant and shock back with weapon damage enchant in both instances.
On a lazy rotation I hit around 22k (give or take). Once I get myself in gear and grind out vMA / Slayer gear I reckon I’ll be in a better position overall.
I’m quite surprised by charged being a BiS option. I’ll have to check his updates out :-)
Cybercore_Death wrote: »Running lightning blockade on the backbar will get you better numbers in solo content and dummy parses because you don't have any other sources of whip procs apart from rearming trap. But I found it hella awkward to use, since the typical mDK rotation only brings you to your backbar every 18-ish seconds (to reapply eruption, FoO and trap) which is pretty habitual to me at this point.
In a raid scenario you'll have all the off-balance you need from magsorcs and magblades to a lesser extent, so I stick with fire blockade frontbar for the sheer damage output it provides.
Either way you won't spend enough time on the backbar for a charged backbar staff to provide much benefit. YouTubers have been suggesting nirn'd, but personally I prefer Sharpened on the backbar since it's the only trait that carries over to the frontbar in the context of ground-targeted AoEs (in this case Eruption and Standard. Not sure about FoO yet, I'll have to test it).
Interestingly though, according to Gilliam, charged on the frontbar is now BiS for solo content (topping even infused).
That’s pretty much the problem I found with it. It’s just doesn’t flow naturally with the rotation due to timings.
Actually didn’t know that about sharpened. Some good info. I’m running infused atm for both my 5 Julianos, 5 Sun / BSW / 1 Iceheart and my 5 BSW, 4 MK and 2 Skoria / Groth. I’ve got flame staff front with shock enchant and shock back with weapon damage enchant in both instances.
On a lazy rotation I hit around 22k (give or take). Once I get myself in gear and grind out vMA / Slayer gear I reckon I’ll be in a better position overall.
I’m quite surprised by charged being a BiS option. I’ll have to check his updates out :-)
I've been using charged since homestead. Especially on a lightning/fire DK it shines as you provide a lot of damage to your group through off-balance and constant burning.
I'm reaching around 37k with it on a 6 million dummy. Also using a lightning blockade by the way.
Cybercore_Death wrote: »Cybercore_Death wrote: »Running lightning blockade on the backbar will get you better numbers in solo content and dummy parses because you don't have any other sources of whip procs apart from rearming trap. But I found it hella awkward to use, since the typical mDK rotation only brings you to your backbar every 18-ish seconds (to reapply eruption, FoO and trap) which is pretty habitual to me at this point.
In a raid scenario you'll have all the off-balance you need from magsorcs and magblades to a lesser extent, so I stick with fire blockade frontbar for the sheer damage output it provides.
Either way you won't spend enough time on the backbar for a charged backbar staff to provide much benefit. YouTubers have been suggesting nirn'd, but personally I prefer Sharpened on the backbar since it's the only trait that carries over to the frontbar in the context of ground-targeted AoEs (in this case Eruption and Standard. Not sure about FoO yet, I'll have to test it).
Interestingly though, according to Gilliam, charged on the frontbar is now BiS for solo content (topping even infused).
That’s pretty much the problem I found with it. It’s just doesn’t flow naturally with the rotation due to timings.
Actually didn’t know that about sharpened. Some good info. I’m running infused atm for both my 5 Julianos, 5 Sun / BSW / 1 Iceheart and my 5 BSW, 4 MK and 2 Skoria / Groth. I’ve got flame staff front with shock enchant and shock back with weapon damage enchant in both instances.
On a lazy rotation I hit around 22k (give or take). Once I get myself in gear and grind out vMA / Slayer gear I reckon I’ll be in a better position overall.
I’m quite surprised by charged being a BiS option. I’ll have to check his updates out :-)
I've been using charged since homestead. Especially on a lightning/fire DK it shines as you provide a lot of damage to your group through off-balance and constant burning.
I'm reaching around 37k with it on a 6 million dummy. Also using a lightning blockade by the way.
That’s actually really good to know. Especially suing Lightning Blockade as well.
Would you mind giving us a quick run of what you use gear / skill bars wise? And in terms of CP as well just so I can compare to how I’m running.
Cybercore_Death wrote: »Cybercore_Death wrote: »Running lightning blockade on the backbar will get you better numbers in solo content and dummy parses because you don't have any other sources of whip procs apart from rearming trap. But I found it hella awkward to use, since the typical mDK rotation only brings you to your backbar every 18-ish seconds (to reapply eruption, FoO and trap) which is pretty habitual to me at this point.
In a raid scenario you'll have all the off-balance you need from magsorcs and magblades to a lesser extent, so I stick with fire blockade frontbar for the sheer damage output it provides.
Either way you won't spend enough time on the backbar for a charged backbar staff to provide much benefit. YouTubers have been suggesting nirn'd, but personally I prefer Sharpened on the backbar since it's the only trait that carries over to the frontbar in the context of ground-targeted AoEs (in this case Eruption and Standard. Not sure about FoO yet, I'll have to test it).
Interestingly though, according to Gilliam, charged on the frontbar is now BiS for solo content (topping even infused).
That’s pretty much the problem I found with it. It’s just doesn’t flow naturally with the rotation due to timings.
Actually didn’t know that about sharpened. Some good info. I’m running infused atm for both my 5 Julianos, 5 Sun / BSW / 1 Iceheart and my 5 BSW, 4 MK and 2 Skoria / Groth. I’ve got flame staff front with shock enchant and shock back with weapon damage enchant in both instances.
On a lazy rotation I hit around 22k (give or take). Once I get myself in gear and grind out vMA / Slayer gear I reckon I’ll be in a better position overall.
I’m quite surprised by charged being a BiS option. I’ll have to check his updates out :-)
I've been using charged since homestead. Especially on a lightning/fire DK it shines as you provide a lot of damage to your group through off-balance and constant burning.
I'm reaching around 37k with it on a 6 million dummy. Also using a lightning blockade by the way.
That’s actually really good to know. Especially suing Lightning Blockade as well.
Would you mind giving us a quick run of what you use gear / skill bars wise? And in terms of CP as well just so I can compare to how I’m running.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/309550/elemental-fury-pve-heavy-attack-dk-build-hotr-ready/p1
You can find all of it here.
Cybercore_Death wrote: »Cybercore_Death wrote: »Cybercore_Death wrote: »Running lightning blockade on the backbar will get you better numbers in solo content and dummy parses because you don't have any other sources of whip procs apart from rearming trap. But I found it hella awkward to use, since the typical mDK rotation only brings you to your backbar every 18-ish seconds (to reapply eruption, FoO and trap) which is pretty habitual to me at this point.
In a raid scenario you'll have all the off-balance you need from magsorcs and magblades to a lesser extent, so I stick with fire blockade frontbar for the sheer damage output it provides.
Either way you won't spend enough time on the backbar for a charged backbar staff to provide much benefit. YouTubers have been suggesting nirn'd, but personally I prefer Sharpened on the backbar since it's the only trait that carries over to the frontbar in the context of ground-targeted AoEs (in this case Eruption and Standard. Not sure about FoO yet, I'll have to test it).
Interestingly though, according to Gilliam, charged on the frontbar is now BiS for solo content (topping even infused).
That’s pretty much the problem I found with it. It’s just doesn’t flow naturally with the rotation due to timings.
Actually didn’t know that about sharpened. Some good info. I’m running infused atm for both my 5 Julianos, 5 Sun / BSW / 1 Iceheart and my 5 BSW, 4 MK and 2 Skoria / Groth. I’ve got flame staff front with shock enchant and shock back with weapon damage enchant in both instances.
On a lazy rotation I hit around 22k (give or take). Once I get myself in gear and grind out vMA / Slayer gear I reckon I’ll be in a better position overall.
I’m quite surprised by charged being a BiS option. I’ll have to check his updates out :-)
I've been using charged since homestead. Especially on a lightning/fire DK it shines as you provide a lot of damage to your group through off-balance and constant burning.
I'm reaching around 37k with it on a 6 million dummy. Also using a lightning blockade by the way.
That’s actually really good to know. Especially suing Lightning Blockade as well.
Would you mind giving us a quick run of what you use gear / skill bars wise? And in terms of CP as well just so I can compare to how I’m running.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/309550/elemental-fury-pve-heavy-attack-dk-build-hotr-ready/p1
You can find all of it here.
I thought I recognised your name. I’ve stumbled across your build page before and found it quite interesting.
For someone looking to get into vMA at some point in the near future have you got any advice for running with an mDK?
Cybercore_Death wrote: »Cybercore_Death wrote: »Cybercore_Death wrote: »Running lightning blockade on the backbar will get you better numbers in solo content and dummy parses because you don't have any other sources of whip procs apart from rearming trap. But I found it hella awkward to use, since the typical mDK rotation only brings you to your backbar every 18-ish seconds (to reapply eruption, FoO and trap) which is pretty habitual to me at this point.
In a raid scenario you'll have all the off-balance you need from magsorcs and magblades to a lesser extent, so I stick with fire blockade frontbar for the sheer damage output it provides.
Either way you won't spend enough time on the backbar for a charged backbar staff to provide much benefit. YouTubers have been suggesting nirn'd, but personally I prefer Sharpened on the backbar since it's the only trait that carries over to the frontbar in the context of ground-targeted AoEs (in this case Eruption and Standard. Not sure about FoO yet, I'll have to test it).
Interestingly though, according to Gilliam, charged on the frontbar is now BiS for solo content (topping even infused).
That’s pretty much the problem I found with it. It’s just doesn’t flow naturally with the rotation due to timings.
Actually didn’t know that about sharpened. Some good info. I’m running infused atm for both my 5 Julianos, 5 Sun / BSW / 1 Iceheart and my 5 BSW, 4 MK and 2 Skoria / Groth. I’ve got flame staff front with shock enchant and shock back with weapon damage enchant in both instances.
On a lazy rotation I hit around 22k (give or take). Once I get myself in gear and grind out vMA / Slayer gear I reckon I’ll be in a better position overall.
I’m quite surprised by charged being a BiS option. I’ll have to check his updates out :-)
I've been using charged since homestead. Especially on a lightning/fire DK it shines as you provide a lot of damage to your group through off-balance and constant burning.
I'm reaching around 37k with it on a 6 million dummy. Also using a lightning blockade by the way.
That’s actually really good to know. Especially suing Lightning Blockade as well.
Would you mind giving us a quick run of what you use gear / skill bars wise? And in terms of CP as well just so I can compare to how I’m running.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/309550/elemental-fury-pve-heavy-attack-dk-build-hotr-ready/p1
You can find all of it here.
I thought I recognised your name. I’ve stumbled across your build page before and found it quite interesting.
For someone looking to get into vMA at some point in the near future have you got any advice for running with an mDK?
Yes. Run a restoration staff back bar with rapid regen. Charged Lightning staff front bar with a shock enchantment and flame lash and elemental blockade. Tons of self-healing and great damage.
I'll update the guide this weekend, I have a lot of university stuff to do at the moment.