I've been on this...so disappointed. Bored. Probably done with the game soon...gonna get my pvp rank and manage my guild. And bounce.

Turelus wrote: »

The are 2x purple and 2x blue housing recipes from what the data mining thread is saying.

There a 8-10 blue/purple housing items.

4 Headgears.

Double XP.

I mean, what do you want from it?

Except we haven't seen most of the datamined items in any of my guilds. I am disappointed on the furniture front because I expected more than 1 blue and 1 purple plan (and the blue plan has the same model as a current green plan!). Only 3 Blue furniture items have been found (Witches Offerings, 2 types of Witches Totems).

It would be nice if more of the world changed for holidays but I don't think that has happened for any holiday yet...

I'm enjoying it. It's fun grinding dungeons with my friends for skulls and xp.

aliyavana wrote: »

ValkyriesWolf wrote: »

MercTheMage wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

MercTheMage wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

The are 2x purple and 2x blue housing recipes from what the data mining thread is saying.

There a 8-10 blue/purple housing items.

4 Headgears.

Double XP.

I mean, what do you want from it?

4... huge number...
2 of which havnt been seen, and 1 is already an in game item. So 1 recipe added...

4 masks that are recolors of eachother, so no masks.

Double xp... I have 843 cp. Big whoop.

As for what I want from it, how about them not copy pasting "new" content into the game and actually giving a sh!t.

The salt is real, I am sure ZoS will cater new stuff specifically for you from now on though, and it is a festival, same as last year...

Come back after the event finishes and let us know if your luck improves though ye?

How would it be new content only for me, literally everyone whos played for more than a year has done this you *** tard
Why do we even bother subbing for a game that just *** out the same stuff every few months with some new colors

Really? What about new players, eh? Do you understand that word, new? Those who weren't around last year or missed it due to real life or whatever.....
I mean, if it's so disappointing for you, then leave it be, but don't insult people. Take the offered or leave it, but don't go around with your obvious hate. Really, where are we, the kindergarten? Get off your high horse there for a moment. What do you think an mmo is like? Of course it has to cater to the new players as well. Yes, there is not that much new stuff, but where is the problem? If you don't want to get this stuff, then don't participate in it and do thenew dlc instead. No one is forcing you to do the festival again. And since it is an annual festivity, what are you expecting of great new content? It's annual! Get that in your head, please! It practically means mainly old stuff with a bit of new stuff, so every player category, old and new, have a chance at getting the same stuff without a massive disadvantage for the newer players.
I am getting the same old motifs again this year as well, and yes, I keep complaining about only getting the motifs as well, but more on the fun side of it, comparing with what useless stuff my friends got. RNG has never been on my side before, so I take it easy and with humour. Take it as a fun festival, go out with people you know and have fun. Best thing, you can even trade with them. ;-)
And if all the duplicates are oh so disappointing for you, others might like them, so give them away. Or use them on your alts like me. Or give them to friends or guildies, who can still use them because they didn't get those. Heck, even sell it, some extra money.
Just don't go around insulting people or their intelligence, because they don't share your opinion and tend to make fun of your more extreme opinions. Or you aren't any better than those dictators forbidding the right of free speech.
And yes, that is just my opinion as well.

No one stays a new player forever

True, they don't. But you know what's equally true? That there will always BE new players around, since it's an mmo. So, let's say, if they start a day or a week after the festival with the game, or half a year later, completely new, do you really want to take the achievements from them? The possibility to gain those and or the stuff contributed to us old, or let's better call it seasoned, players? Really? That's quite the inequality that would actually contribute to an mmo's downfall. Because if new players aren't able to have at least the chance to get what a seasoned player already has, why would they ever care to play such a game?
And well, no one forces anyone to participate. If you don't like it, don't do it. There are always other activities in an mmo.....

Turelus wrote: »

The are 2x purple and 2x blue housing recipes from what the data mining thread is saying.

There a 8-10 blue/purple housing items.

4 Headgears.

Double XP.

I mean, what do you want from it?

The problem isnt the pool for drops. But rather the fact that you can go drop after drop getting nothing but burned tree branches. At the end of this event you might have hundreds of these worthless things. And yes after youve gotten a handful and actually plan on using them. Youll definitely need to vendor the vast majority.

ValkyriesWolf wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

ValkyriesWolf wrote: »

MercTheMage wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

MercTheMage wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

The are 2x purple and 2x blue housing recipes from what the data mining thread is saying.

There a 8-10 blue/purple housing items.

4 Headgears.

Double XP.

I mean, what do you want from it?

4... huge number...
2 of which havnt been seen, and 1 is already an in game item. So 1 recipe added...

4 masks that are recolors of eachother, so no masks.

Double xp... I have 843 cp. Big whoop.

As for what I want from it, how about them not copy pasting "new" content into the game and actually giving a sh!t.

The salt is real, I am sure ZoS will cater new stuff specifically for you from now on though, and it is a festival, same as last year...

Come back after the event finishes and let us know if your luck improves though ye?

How would it be new content only for me, literally everyone whos played for more than a year has done this you *** tard
Why do we even bother subbing for a game that just *** out the same stuff every few months with some new colors

Really? What about new players, eh? Do you understand that word, new? Those who weren't around last year or missed it due to real life or whatever.....
I mean, if it's so disappointing for you, then leave it be, but don't insult people. Take the offered or leave it, but don't go around with your obvious hate. Really, where are we, the kindergarten? Get off your high horse there for a moment. What do you think an mmo is like? Of course it has to cater to the new players as well. Yes, there is not that much new stuff, but where is the problem? If you don't want to get this stuff, then don't participate in it and do thenew dlc instead. No one is forcing you to do the festival again. And since it is an annual festivity, what are you expecting of great new content? It's annual! Get that in your head, please! It practically means mainly old stuff with a bit of new stuff, so every player category, old and new, have a chance at getting the same stuff without a massive disadvantage for the newer players.
I am getting the same old motifs again this year as well, and yes, I keep complaining about only getting the motifs as well, but more on the fun side of it, comparing with what useless stuff my friends got. RNG has never been on my side before, so I take it easy and with humour. Take it as a fun festival, go out with people you know and have fun. Best thing, you can even trade with them. ;-)
And if all the duplicates are oh so disappointing for you, others might like them, so give them away. Or use them on your alts like me. Or give them to friends or guildies, who can still use them because they didn't get those. Heck, even sell it, some extra money.
Just don't go around insulting people or their intelligence, because they don't share your opinion and tend to make fun of your more extreme opinions. Or you aren't any better than those dictators forbidding the right of free speech.
And yes, that is just my opinion as well.

No one stays a new player forever

True, they don't. But you know what's equally true? That there will always BE new players around, since it's an mmo. So, let's say, if they start a day or a week after the festival with the game, or half a year later, completely new, do you really want to take the achievements from them? The possibility to gain those and or the stuff contributed to us old, or let's better call it seasoned, players? Really? That's quite the inequality that would actually contribute to an mmo's downfall. Because if new players aren't able to have at least the chance to get what a seasoned player already has, why would they ever care to play such a game?
And well, no one forces anyone to participate. If you don't like it, don't do it. There are always other activities in an mmo.....

who the hell said that we were taking achievements from them? they have 2 weeks to do the achievements and next year if they don't complete them

It's clear that there is a common element running in both the "disappointed" and "been pretty fun so far" camps. And that is whether or not they have gotten anything of value from the time invested.

On this thread, and many others dealing with the event, people who are generally happy seem to be those that got something cool, like a purple housing plan, or one of the masks, within 50 or so skulls. They might not be jumping with joy and feeling all giddy about the thing, since it is after all rather simple affair as far as events go. Bosses drop another thing that contains RNG stuff. Whoopdidoo. But as long as you get some cool new free stuff, you are left generally with a positive feeling. Seems like it wasn't time wasted.

Then you have the other side of the coin - people who are well over 100 skulls gathered so far, with absolutely nothing of value dropping. Just an ever increasing pile of toilet paper (i.e. Hollowjack motif chapters) and some kindling for the bonfire on which you burn all those useless Hollowjack chapters.

If you can't figure out from my tone, I'm one from the latter camp. With around 120 skulls gathered, my loot consists of... Nothing of any meaningful value. No purple furnishings, nor recipes for the same. No Bloody Mara or Potent Brew recipes either. I think I got one or two Party Punch recipes, which was such an exciting thing, since I only had half a dozen of them gathering dust in my bank vault from last year. And no masks at all. It's so fun reading people post that they think the event has been pretty decent since they got a purple furnishing recipe, couple of purple furnishing and a mask or two form their first 50 skulls. It's the age old "Since I'm fine, everything is fine, regardless of how things are for everyone else." thing.

While the event is a simple one, and could certainly use a bit of polish (Like something visually changing in the towns. No need to go all Halloween here, but something at least to note that it is a holiday season in Tamriel.), the real issue is the bloody RNG element. That is what sucks with this event. The same bloody thing that sucks in almost everything in ESO. It's all luck based. One guy opens 5000 urns in tombs in VVardenfell and gets jack squat for his efforts. Another opens 10 and gets a purple furnishing recipe he sells for 500k. Guess which one thinks the loot tables are fine, and which one is writing "I quit!" threads.

If there was some way to acquire the new stuff on offer that wasn't based on personal luck, I bet that most people would be much happier with the event. If every skull also dropped a skull token. And you could redeem 5 skull tokens for a blue event furnishing of your choice, and 15 for a recipe for the same or a purple event furnishing. 50 tokens could get you a purple recipe, and maybe 100 or 150 a mask box of your choice (Not a random one for crying out loud! The whole point of token system is to eliminate personal bad luck.) With a token system, I bet people would be lot happier in general, and there'd be lot less anger on the forums.

And a token system would still give that happy surprise of getting a rune box from a skull, but wouldn't *** of people who happen to be less fortunate. With enough effort you will get the thing you desired.

And incidentally... The same can be said about everything else in the game that relies on RNG and abysmally low drop rates.

Anyway... This is a crappy event, there's no two ways about it.

I

aliyavana wrote: »

ValkyriesWolf wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

ValkyriesWolf wrote: »

MercTheMage wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

MercTheMage wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

The are 2x purple and 2x blue housing recipes from what the data mining thread is saying.

There a 8-10 blue/purple housing items.

4 Headgears.

Double XP.

I mean, what do you want from it?

4... huge number...
2 of which havnt been seen, and 1 is already an in game item. So 1 recipe added...

4 masks that are recolors of eachother, so no masks.

Double xp... I have 843 cp. Big whoop.

As for what I want from it, how about them not copy pasting "new" content into the game and actually giving a sh!t.

The salt is real, I am sure ZoS will cater new stuff specifically for you from now on though, and it is a festival, same as last year...

Come back after the event finishes and let us know if your luck improves though ye?

How would it be new content only for me, literally everyone whos played for more than a year has done this you *** tard
Why do we even bother subbing for a game that just *** out the same stuff every few months with some new colors

Really? What about new players, eh? Do you understand that word, new? Those who weren't around last year or missed it due to real life or whatever.....
I mean, if it's so disappointing for you, then leave it be, but don't insult people. Take the offered or leave it, but don't go around with your obvious hate. Really, where are we, the kindergarten? Get off your high horse there for a moment. What do you think an mmo is like? Of course it has to cater to the new players as well. Yes, there is not that much new stuff, but where is the problem? If you don't want to get this stuff, then don't participate in it and do thenew dlc instead. No one is forcing you to do the festival again. And since it is an annual festivity, what are you expecting of great new content? It's annual! Get that in your head, please! It practically means mainly old stuff with a bit of new stuff, so every player category, old and new, have a chance at getting the same stuff without a massive disadvantage for the newer players.
I am getting the same old motifs again this year as well, and yes, I keep complaining about only getting the motifs as well, but more on the fun side of it, comparing with what useless stuff my friends got. RNG has never been on my side before, so I take it easy and with humour. Take it as a fun festival, go out with people you know and have fun. Best thing, you can even trade with them. ;-)
And if all the duplicates are oh so disappointing for you, others might like them, so give them away. Or use them on your alts like me. Or give them to friends or guildies, who can still use them because they didn't get those. Heck, even sell it, some extra money.
Just don't go around insulting people or their intelligence, because they don't share your opinion and tend to make fun of your more extreme opinions. Or you aren't any better than those dictators forbidding the right of free speech.
And yes, that is just my opinion as well.

No one stays a new player forever

True, they don't. But you know what's equally true? That there will always BE new players around, since it's an mmo. So, let's say, if they start a day or a week after the festival with the game, or half a year later, completely new, do you really want to take the achievements from them? The possibility to gain those and or the stuff contributed to us old, or let's better call it seasoned, players? Really? That's quite the inequality that would actually contribute to an mmo's downfall. Because if new players aren't able to have at least the chance to get what a seasoned player already has, why would they ever care to play such a game?
And well, no one forces anyone to participate. If you don't like it, don't do it. There are always other activities in an mmo.....

who the hell said that we were taking achievements from them? they have 2 weeks to do the achievements and next year if they don't complete them

Achievements include the oh so old motifs. If you want something new, something old has to go. When you take away the motifs you take away the achievement completion and the possibility to craft those (not sure if they appear in master writs as wanted stile). Of course, the old recipes for food aren't playing into an achievement, but taking those away completely would result in inequalities as well, since at least one og those purples I have seen in guides for builds as a standard food used.
So really, the only way would be to place other loot than worms or stuff in the skulls, since after they made new recipes now it would be as unfair to completely remove those as well later.
The only other possibility would be to place more activities in the festival. Keep the old stuff, since that is needed as well, but do more counted activities as well, not necessarily with new achievements, or only otherwise counted achievements to keep the being achievements forof the festival as they are but add another section, perhaps an undersection.

ValkyriesWolf wrote: »

I

aliyavana wrote: »

ValkyriesWolf wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

ValkyriesWolf wrote: »

MercTheMage wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

MercTheMage wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

The are 2x purple and 2x blue housing recipes from what the data mining thread is saying.

There a 8-10 blue/purple housing items.

4 Headgears.

Double XP.

I mean, what do you want from it?

4... huge number...
2 of which havnt been seen, and 1 is already an in game item. So 1 recipe added...

4 masks that are recolors of eachother, so no masks.

Double xp... I have 843 cp. Big whoop.

As for what I want from it, how about them not copy pasting "new" content into the game and actually giving a sh!t.

The salt is real, I am sure ZoS will cater new stuff specifically for you from now on though, and it is a festival, same as last year...

Come back after the event finishes and let us know if your luck improves though ye?

How would it be new content only for me, literally everyone whos played for more than a year has done this you *** tard
Why do we even bother subbing for a game that just *** out the same stuff every few months with some new colors

Really? What about new players, eh? Do you understand that word, new? Those who weren't around last year or missed it due to real life or whatever.....
I mean, if it's so disappointing for you, then leave it be, but don't insult people. Take the offered or leave it, but don't go around with your obvious hate. Really, where are we, the kindergarten? Get off your high horse there for a moment. What do you think an mmo is like? Of course it has to cater to the new players as well. Yes, there is not that much new stuff, but where is the problem? If you don't want to get this stuff, then don't participate in it and do thenew dlc instead. No one is forcing you to do the festival again. And since it is an annual festivity, what are you expecting of great new content? It's annual! Get that in your head, please! It practically means mainly old stuff with a bit of new stuff, so every player category, old and new, have a chance at getting the same stuff without a massive disadvantage for the newer players.
I am getting the same old motifs again this year as well, and yes, I keep complaining about only getting the motifs as well, but more on the fun side of it, comparing with what useless stuff my friends got. RNG has never been on my side before, so I take it easy and with humour. Take it as a fun festival, go out with people you know and have fun. Best thing, you can even trade with them. ;-)
And if all the duplicates are oh so disappointing for you, others might like them, so give them away. Or use them on your alts like me. Or give them to friends or guildies, who can still use them because they didn't get those. Heck, even sell it, some extra money.
Just don't go around insulting people or their intelligence, because they don't share your opinion and tend to make fun of your more extreme opinions. Or you aren't any better than those dictators forbidding the right of free speech.
And yes, that is just my opinion as well.

No one stays a new player forever

True, they don't. But you know what's equally true? That there will always BE new players around, since it's an mmo. So, let's say, if they start a day or a week after the festival with the game, or half a year later, completely new, do you really want to take the achievements from them? The possibility to gain those and or the stuff contributed to us old, or let's better call it seasoned, players? Really? That's quite the inequality that would actually contribute to an mmo's downfall. Because if new players aren't able to have at least the chance to get what a seasoned player already has, why would they ever care to play such a game?
And well, no one forces anyone to participate. If you don't like it, don't do it. There are always other activities in an mmo.....

who the hell said that we were taking achievements from them? they have 2 weeks to do the achievements and next year if they don't complete them

Achievements include the oh so old motifs. If you want something new, something old has to go. When you take away the motifs you take away the achievement completion and the possibility to craft those (not sure if they appear in master writs as wanted stile). Of course, the old recipes for food aren't playing into an achievement, but taking those away completely would result in inequalities as well, since at least one og those purples I have seen in guides for builds as a standard food used.
So really, the only way would be to place other loot than worms or stuff in the skulls, since after they made new recipes now it would be as unfair to completely remove those as well later.
The only other possibility would be to place more activities in the festival. Keep the old stuff, since that is needed as well, but do more counted activities as well, not necessarily with new achievements, or only otherwise counted achievements to keep the being achievements forof the festival as they are but add another section, perhaps an undersection.

Or you can have both new and old motifs drop, just like we can have both new and old achievements done by players

I've experienced the Jester festival and this Witches one seems very dull and insipid to me, there is no atmosphere.

The Jester had no decorations all around either but the fact we had quests to do in order to get rewards, forced us to come back to the jesters pavilions pretty often and also the npcs in locations where we had some quests were celebrating, there was great atmosphere, all colorful, all in the festival spirit.

aliyavana wrote: »

ValkyriesWolf wrote: »

I

aliyavana wrote: »

ValkyriesWolf wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

ValkyriesWolf wrote: »

MercTheMage wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

MercTheMage wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

The are 2x purple and 2x blue housing recipes from what the data mining thread is saying.

There a 8-10 blue/purple housing items.

4 Headgears.

Double XP.

I mean, what do you want from it?

4... huge number...
2 of which havnt been seen, and 1 is already an in game item. So 1 recipe added...

4 masks that are recolors of eachother, so no masks.

Double xp... I have 843 cp. Big whoop.

As for what I want from it, how about them not copy pasting "new" content into the game and actually giving a sh!t.

The salt is real, I am sure ZoS will cater new stuff specifically for you from now on though, and it is a festival, same as last year...

Come back after the event finishes and let us know if your luck improves though ye?

How would it be new content only for me, literally everyone whos played for more than a year has done this you *** tard
Why do we even bother subbing for a game that just *** out the same stuff every few months with some new colors

Really? What about new players, eh? Do you understand that word, new? Those who weren't around last year or missed it due to real life or whatever.....
I mean, if it's so disappointing for you, then leave it be, but don't insult people. Take the offered or leave it, but don't go around with your obvious hate. Really, where are we, the kindergarten? Get off your high horse there for a moment. What do you think an mmo is like? Of course it has to cater to the new players as well. Yes, there is not that much new stuff, but where is the problem? If you don't want to get this stuff, then don't participate in it and do thenew dlc instead. No one is forcing you to do the festival again. And since it is an annual festivity, what are you expecting of great new content? It's annual! Get that in your head, please! It practically means mainly old stuff with a bit of new stuff, so every player category, old and new, have a chance at getting the same stuff without a massive disadvantage for the newer players.
I am getting the same old motifs again this year as well, and yes, I keep complaining about only getting the motifs as well, but more on the fun side of it, comparing with what useless stuff my friends got. RNG has never been on my side before, so I take it easy and with humour. Take it as a fun festival, go out with people you know and have fun. Best thing, you can even trade with them. ;-)
And if all the duplicates are oh so disappointing for you, others might like them, so give them away. Or use them on your alts like me. Or give them to friends or guildies, who can still use them because they didn't get those. Heck, even sell it, some extra money.
Just don't go around insulting people or their intelligence, because they don't share your opinion and tend to make fun of your more extreme opinions. Or you aren't any better than those dictators forbidding the right of free speech.
And yes, that is just my opinion as well.

No one stays a new player forever

True, they don't. But you know what's equally true? That there will always BE new players around, since it's an mmo. So, let's say, if they start a day or a week after the festival with the game, or half a year later, completely new, do you really want to take the achievements from them? The possibility to gain those and or the stuff contributed to us old, or let's better call it seasoned, players? Really? That's quite the inequality that would actually contribute to an mmo's downfall. Because if new players aren't able to have at least the chance to get what a seasoned player already has, why would they ever care to play such a game?
And well, no one forces anyone to participate. If you don't like it, don't do it. There are always other activities in an mmo.....

who the hell said that we were taking achievements from them? they have 2 weeks to do the achievements and next year if they don't complete them

Achievements include the oh so old motifs. If you want something new, something old has to go. When you take away the motifs you take away the achievement completion and the possibility to craft those (not sure if they appear in master writs as wanted stile). Of course, the old recipes for food aren't playing into an achievement, but taking those away completely would result in inequalities as well, since at least one og those purples I have seen in guides for builds as a standard food used.
So really, the only way would be to place other loot than worms or stuff in the skulls, since after they made new recipes now it would be as unfair to completely remove those as well later.
The only other possibility would be to place more activities in the festival. Keep the old stuff, since that is needed as well, but do more counted activities as well, not necessarily with new achievements, or only otherwise counted achievements to keep the being achievements forof the festival as they are but add another section, perhaps an undersection.

Or you can have both new and old motifs drop, just like we can have both new and old achievements done by players

The problem with this is that you can't take away the old one. And think about it, when you add a new motif every year, the loot pool is ever increasing. A positive thing you might say. In the beginning, yes it might be. The real problem comes with the huge number of the motif pages. It would be a valid possibility in my opinion, if zos wouldn't add those as single pages, bit whole motif books, like there already are the daedra and the other books. If that wouldn't happen, with either both of the new and old motifs or at least one of them, prefarably the old, you'd had the same duplicates problem with the new motif as well, adding to that particular frustration by bad rng and an ever hugely increasing loot pool every year. Or the possibility to put together such a book with a full set of motif pages, though that would not help with the rng problem.
I have to admit that, yes, the real problem is the rng, and adding endlessly to the loot pool without the possibility to remove stuff fairly, the rng isn't getting better, but worse.
@Hymzir , I like your token idea, it could help with the rng. It would be a fairer thing altogether.
And I can understand all the people with bad rng. Mine isn't the best either. Probably perhaps not as bad as some of the rngs mentioned here, but not lucky either. My luck is friends with the possibility to trade things. Or give away duplicates.

While I respect that the festival isn't for everyone, my opinion is that it is what you make of it. Two of us - who are max leveled so double XP was fluff - ran around the Dwemer dungeons. In between boss spawns, we killed trash mobs for loot and goofed around with other random players. Dancing on corpses, having emote drinking wars and dance offs - the game is what you make of it.