Make dungeon/trial sets sellable

OutLaw_Nynx · October 2017

Other

Trial sets yes
Dungeons no because it’s easy to farm?

Bbsample197 · October 2017

No

no, you like everyone to start picking flowers instead of doing trials, theres already a few people running trials, and those who dont want to run wont probably join even if the items are BoE.

Bbsample197 · October 2017

No

Lyserus wrote: »

Shadzilla wrote: »

BoP gear can be traded within your group and next week trait change is here... The horrible grind that was in this game is now gone, literally.

finally some reasoning
now, the truth is, to make "horrible grind gone" with CWC dlc, you will still need to:
1.Have a crafter in your run, preferably 9-trait crafter (that is if they are allowed to transmog before trade timer run out)
2.Have 3 partners that garantee will share the piece you want with you
3.You still need to farm for transmog crystal

Also, give a reason why not making them sellable. They are not "hard-earned" in anyway considering you can get them in normal and it only costs few k to get to "vet-level" gear. So exactly why not?

then how can you get gold moondancer ring in nMoL?

WrathOfInnos · October 2017

Yes

How much would a gold Moondancer ring go for? We can already sell them by bringing someone through vMoL for a price. I might have to start doing this, since making any gold from trials has been nearly impossible since everything went BoP.

Also the only reason nobody does trials anymore is because most people that enjoy trials got their gear months or years ago. It's not worth the time or effort to vendor gold IA and VO jewelry for 100 gold. If we could put those drops in guild traders, trials would be instantly revitalized.

Kiralyn2000 · October 2017

No

If you want the benefits of having run a Trial or Dungeon, run the trial or dungeon. (Not everything has to be designed for/cater to Guild Trader Moguls. Not everything has to be a Sales Opportunity!™)

And I say that as someone who's never going to get their hands on Trial & Dungeon gear.

NyassaV · October 2017

Yes

Shadzilla wrote: »

BoP gear can be traded within your group and next week trait change is here... The horrible grind that was in this game is now gone, literally.

It is not gone... Every time someone gets a bloody fire staff it is in a coffer and cannot be traded. BoP is a stupid idea, people asked for a token system and got retrait, thats a step but not enough. I have been trying to get a fire staff for almost a year and so have many others. Raiding would also be worth something if BoP goes away because then raiders could sell that stuff. As if now there is little reason to do a raid

Stopnaggin · October 2017

Lyserus wrote: »

Shadzilla wrote: »

BoP gear can be traded within your group and next week trait change is here... The horrible grind that was in this game is now gone, literally.

finally some reasoning
now, the truth is, to make "horrible grind gone" with CWC dlc, you will still need to:
1.Have a crafter in your run, preferably 9-trait crafter (that is if they are allowed to transmog before trade timer run out)
2.Have 3 partners that garantee will share the piece you want with you
3.You still need to farm for transmog crystal

Also, give a reason why not making them sellable. They are not "hard-earned" in anyway considering you can get them in normal and it only costs few k to get to "vet-level" gear. So exactly why not?

I heard as soon as you change the trait it becomes bound. So if that's true there went that.

Stopnaggin · October 2017

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

Being able to sell loot would get so many experienced players to repeat content as a way of earning gold, right now there's no reason to replay dungeons after you have your one perfect gear set. Random groups have a bad reputation because the only people incentivized to do content are the ones who have not done it much.

It would not bother me at all if someone unable to complete a dungeon or trial could buy that gear. It's not any better than overland or crafted gear anyway. Anyone can be carried through any content currently, and nearly every vet drop can be farmed in normal mode anyway.

It used to be that way. Same reason I don't run trials anymore, unless a guilds is looking for something. Too expensive with no way to recoup your losses.

Vahrokh · October 2017

No

Since two decades, raids / trials are a group achievement. Even getting a group to do them is an achivement. Keeping people wiping for days without losing them left and right is an achievement.

The prize for that are exclusive weapons and gear.

People who want everything served on a silver platter would want to run some craft dailies and buy the prize for the most difficult content in game (never mind ESO trials are quite trivial compared to proper raiding)?

Sorry, I know this is a generational thing ("I want it all, now and easy, I am ENTITLED to that"), but I am totally against it.

I believe in a meritocratic world. Who deserves, who achieves, who does his due diligence gets the prize. The others feel free to go cry injustice.

FearlessOne_2014 · October 2017

Yes

Trials would be worth me doing again. I tried trials again a few days ago for the first time in like 3 or 4 months. After going through a full stack of spell power pots, and a bunch of repair kits. Two hours later everyone called it on the last boss after the last boss after the 3rd attempt. Didn't help that my guild started it mid PST either. I then again remembered why I stopped doing them.

If Dungeon and Trial gear was BoE instead of BoP. I would be able to make gold. Thus have a reason to suffer through all of the costs, and even the potential of not getting it done this time. Because eventually I would be able to make my gold back. Then I would actually be able to make gold from doing them. Thus a good reason to suffer through them.

Just my two cents is all.

Ir0nB34r · October 2017

No

supaskrub wrote: »

No chance of Dungeon gear ever being BoE now, that would kind of defeat in one fell swoop the whole work that went into the Transmutation system. Anyway i like the system as it is.

You are exactly right. I had not considered this.

But I also think it would ruin much of the risk vs reward of doing Vet stuff.

Soleya · October 2017

Shadzilla wrote: »

BoP gear can be traded within your group and next week trait change is here... The horrible grind that was in this game is now gone, literally.

I agree. You should have to work hard to get BIS sets like Oblivions Edge. But it's ok if you can buy mediocre sets like Necropotence or Spriggan from other players. (Sarcasm btw).

Most of the dungeon sets are garbage anyway. A lot of the really good sets are now outdone by crafted gear (BSW is weaker than Julianos now)

And from what I can tell, the trait change is going to require a massive amount of grinding to change one piece. In many cases you're probably better off just grinding the dungeon for the item instead. Only exception would be harder to get items like Master/Maelstrom weapons, for many grinding dungeons to change a trait on those pieces is probably easier for them than running VMA 1000 times.

altemriel · October 2017

Yes

yes please

s7732425ub17_ESO · October 2017

Yes

The gear market used to flourish in ESO and be a viable way for Trial runners to generate income. Now that most desirable gear is BoP, everything cannot be traded, and the market has been gutted. The ESO economy is in a very bad state right now. Besides a few overland sets that you can sell, there's not a good market for gear anymore. So if you run Trials and dungeons a lot, you just aren't going to be making any money. And that's a really bad thing.

BossXV · October 2017

Yes

more time for players to play content they actually want to, and give dungeon runners like me some profit with my dupes WIN WIN

Apache_Kid · October 2017

Yes

I do not understand all the "It will make it so people don't run the content anymore!" responses.

For every person that will not run the content and buy there gear there will be someone like me who already has their gear, no longer runs the content, but would be incentivised to go back and run it again to make money. Not to mention all the folks who just would rather farm than pay for the gear.

This will never happen but the arguments against it are really lame.

zaria · October 2017

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

Being able to sell loot would get so many experienced players to repeat content as a way of earning gold, right now there's no reason to replay dungeons after you have your one perfect gear set. Random groups have a bad reputation because the only people incentivized to do content are the ones who have not done it much.

It would not bother me at all if someone unable to complete a dungeon or trial could buy that gear. It's not any better than overland or crafted gear anyway. Anyone can be carried through any content currently, and nearly every vet drop can be farmed in normal mode anyway.

Good point, its pretty random that is the best sets, pet sorc is crafted+ overland, healer is dlc dungeon + dungeons / trial.

Chili_Pepper · February 2019

Yes

All dungeon set drops are bind-on-pickup.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/294849/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-6-4-update-12-one-tamriel#latest

someone asked when it became bind on pickup. since october 2016

Zatox · February 2019

Yes

I just don't like the "BoP" concept. Will be interesting for me to see some kind of trading event: you can trade any items (obtained during the event) for a week.

VaxtinTheWolf · February 2019

Wow. This is an oldie.

Androconium · February 2019

Other

if I could buy these pieces, I would never waste my time playing the same dungeon over and over and over to get the full set.

I don't do that now, so if you were able to sell these pieces, I and others, still wouldn't buy them.

I decon any dungeon items that i dont't trade. I haven't noticed any difference in my life.

ruengdet2515 · February 2019

Yes

Yes, but at least you can sell tri/dun set items 1 pcs per week!

InvictusApollo · February 2019

Yes please. I'm bored to death with HRC but I need stamina sets from there for my pvp stamblade. I allways have been saving sets that might come usefull one day, except of these.

MikaHR · February 2019

Crafted sets are BoE
Overland sets are BoE
PvP sets are BoE
Instanced PvE sets are BoP

See who is speciul.

Shadow_Akula · February 2019

Yes

Girl_Number8 wrote: »

No one would want to do those dungeons anymore.

That’s the point. Nobody wants to do the dungeons anyway. Why should they be forced to play content they don’t want to just to be meta? Why should they be forced to play content just to be able to compete with others?

I don’t see the issue here. The game started with the sets as BoE, Dungeon Runners earned a lot of gold for their hard earned sets, buyers were able to be meta and able to compete. No losses.

Either bring back BoE or give players another way to become Meta, to become competitive. “But we have golden” not everyone who dislikes dungeons is a PVPer with AP to burn.

CipherNine · February 2019

No

No, no no. Dungeon queues already take an eternity. If you can just buy the gear sets then no one would do the content. If you want gear then freaking earn it. You guys are always whining about having to do every little thing. If you want ZOS to just hand you everything then there is no point in even playing the game.

If they would do this. I would immediately cancel my sub and never play ESO again.

MikaHR · February 2019

CipherNine wrote: »

No, no no. Dungeon queues already take an eternity. If you can just buy the gear sets then no one would do the content. If you want gear then freaking earn it. You guys are always whining about having to do every little thing. If you want ZOS to just hand you everything then there is no point in even playing the game.

If they would do this. I would immediately cancel my sub and never play ESO again.

Here is a speciaul one!

Noone else but instance PvE needs "gear encouragement"...speciul ones!

JaZ2091 · February 2019

No

If you want to buy Trial or Dungeon gear, buy a carry run.

r34lian · February 2019

Necromancy increased to 10

Billdor · February 2019

Lyserus wrote: »

Shadzilla wrote: »

It's interesting how most nay-sayers in forum just say nay to everything and has no reasoning at all, it's like they want to say sth to make them comfortable but really has nothing to say

Abit like your constructive post then. Ironic isn't it.

Sit in the corner and think about your suggestion, when you have you will realise why we're saying no.