Make dungeon/trial sets sellable

Lyserus

I don't see the whole "you only get those sets if you farm them endlessly but sure you can buy those overland,pvp,craft set whenever you got gold" making sense.
If ZOS is not making all sets bind-on-pick-up, I don't see why target dungeon/trial sets are necessary

I don't against the way you obtain monster helm/shoulder, however you can get dungeon sets in normal dungeon, and those are easy.
So instead of let us farm for one piece among 3 sets* 8 traits* 7 parts, let the market flow

Note(Add4): I just realized in PTS you can't transmog sth and sell it again...quite pity, I'd hope ZOS can provide us with the option to sell re-traited items too

Add:
Note that making dungeon sets bind-on-equip enables not only selling, this makes someone else transmog for you possible, it will be a huge bonus for the upcoming clockwork DLC, as not everyone has a crafter alt

Add2:
If ZOS really want to make some "hard-earned" sets special, they should make pvp sets like tel var sets bind-on-pick-up too. The fact that they are not states that having bind-on-pick-up dungeon sets is just an old classic "WOW does that so we will do it"

Add3:
Note that still I am sure the good set piece with good trait will still worth a lot in the market, so if you don't want to pay that grinding is still an option (and presumebly more profitable if you can sell the pieces you don't want, and you don't have to keep them in your bank taking space if you feel like you can buy them later)
Making them sellable will bring only more options for all players. PVPers don't have to grind pve content, merchant players can have more stocks, those with money but short time can buy them without hassels, crafters can transmog for others to earn some more gold.....It only adds options, I don't see why some ppl have to hold on to the old idea

Add5:
Also, the only P2W factor in ESO, except for warden (which arguebly is P2W if warden ever becomes OP), is the dlc dungeon/trial sets. There is no way that other players can obtain them without getting dlc

Shadzilla

No

BoP gear can be traded within your group and next week trait change is here... The horrible grind that was in this game is now gone, literally.

FloppyTouch

Yes

Would love to buy trial sets and people that run trials would be doing them way more.

Lyserus

Yes

Shadzilla wrote: »

It's interesting how most nay-sayers in forum just say nay to everything and has no reasoning at all, it's like they want to say sth to make them comfortable but really has nothing to say

Lyserus

Yes

Shadzilla wrote: »

BoP gear can be traded within your group and next week trait change is here... The horrible grind that was in this game is now gone, literally.

finally some reasoning
now, the truth is, to make "horrible grind gone" with CWC dlc, you will still need to:
1.Have a crafter in your run, preferably 9-trait crafter (that is if they are allowed to transmog before trade timer run out)
2.Have 3 partners that garantee will share the piece you want with you
3.You still need to farm for transmog crystal

Also, give a reason why not making them sellable. They are not "hard-earned" in anyway considering you can get them in normal and it only costs few k to get to "vet-level" gear. So exactly why not?

FloppyTouch

Yes

Lyserus wrote: »

Shadzilla wrote: »

BoP gear can be traded within your group and next week trait change is here... The horrible grind that was in this game is now gone, literally.

finally some reasoning
now, the truth is, to make "horrible grind gone" with CWC dlc, you will still need to:
1.Have a crafter in your run, preferably 9-trait crafter (that is if they are allowed to transmog before trade timer run out)
2.Have 3 partners that garantee will share the piece you want with you
3.You still need to farm for transmog crystal

Also, give a reason why not making them sellable. They are not "hard-earned" in anyway considering you can get them in normal and it only costs few k to get to "vet-level" gear. So exactly why not?

Only hard thing is getting 12 people together that want to run trials

getemshauna

Yes

I'd make golden jewerly from trials BoP(and undauted helmets) as it is now, but I don't understand why rest of it isn't BoE. Maybe in the past normal dungeons/trials were challenging, but currently with 660 cp+ it's harder to kill solo world boss than dungeon boss on normal lol. Even @Vaoh posted soloing Zhaj'hassa. It would be very healthy for market aswell.

Juhasow

Lyserus wrote: »

Shadzilla wrote: »

BoP gear can be traded within your group and next week trait change is here... The horrible grind that was in this game is now gone, literally.

finally some reasoning
now, the truth is, to make "horrible grind gone" with CWC dlc, you will still need to:
1.Have a crafter in your run, preferably 9-trait crafter (that is if they are allowed to transmog before trade timer run out)
2.Have 3 partners that garantee will share the piece you want with you
3.You still need to farm for transmog crystal

Also, give a reason why not making them sellable. They are not "hard-earned" in anyway considering you can get them in normal and it only costs few k to get to "vet-level" gear. So exactly why not?

Little correction. Retraiting an item makes it bound to person who retraited it so You cant give item to crafter and say "retrait me this".

Lyserus

Yes

Juhasow wrote: »

Lyserus wrote: »

Shadzilla wrote: »

BoP gear can be traded within your group and next week trait change is here... The horrible grind that was in this game is now gone, literally.

finally some reasoning
now, the truth is, to make "horrible grind gone" with CWC dlc, you will still need to:
1.Have a crafter in your run, preferably 9-trait crafter (that is if they are allowed to transmog before trade timer run out)
2.Have 3 partners that garantee will share the piece you want with you
3.You still need to farm for transmog crystal

Also, give a reason why not making them sellable. They are not "hard-earned" in anyway considering you can get them in normal and it only costs few k to get to "vet-level" gear. So exactly why not?

Little correction. Retraiting an item makes it bound to person who retraited it so You cant give item to crafter and say "retrait me this".

ohhh...ok quite a pity then
I'd really like ZOS to re-think about this too

Juhasow

Shadzilla wrote: »

BoP gear can be traded within your group and next week trait change is here... The horrible grind that was in this game is now gone, literally.

Maybe the HORRIBLE GRIND is gone but there will be still grind. As average PvE player You'll need around week to get 50 crystals if playing 1 character or hardcore farm on few characters. It's not like the grind is finally over it's just less annoying now.

zaria

Lyserus wrote: »

Shadzilla wrote: »

BoP gear can be traded within your group and next week trait change is here... The horrible grind that was in this game is now gone, literally.

finally some reasoning
now, the truth is, to make "horrible grind gone" with CWC dlc, you will still need to:
1.Have a crafter in your run, preferably 9-trait crafter (that is if they are allowed to transmog before trade timer run out)
2.Have 3 partners that garantee will share the piece you want with you
3.You still need to farm for transmog crystal

Also, give a reason why not making them sellable. They are not "hard-earned" in anyway considering you can get them in normal and it only costs few k to get to "vet-level" gear. So exactly why not?

1) crafter as in know traits, if you focus on the one you use this take a day for each weapon.
2) more of an problem in pugs i agree but most are pretty happy of giving away stuff they don't think they need.
3) this and not sure of current drop rates.

Maryal

No

I forget exactly when, but you used to be able to sell gear farmed in Group dungeons (and I think, but am not sure, trials too). The number of people buying this gear at a guild store far outnumbered those who were actually doing the content to get the gear.

This lead to a noticeable imbalance in the game on several levels, including (but not limited to) the crafting economy ...and that is when ZOS changed gear dropped in harder content areas to be BOP.

We really don't want to go there again.
...and whenever a person transmutes an item, it automatically binds that item to him/her

WaltherCarraway

No

I don’t want to see a VMA Inferno Staff tagged for like 5 million golds in guild store

Enslaved

Yes

People who do trials would sell stuff and have more time to do other things than to grind for coin.
People who don't do trials would buy stuff and maybe at some point rise to a level needed to complete trials.

Lyserus

Yes

Maryal wrote: »

I forget exactly when, but you used to be able to sell gear farmed in Group dungeons (and I think, but am not sure, trials too). The amount of people buying this gear at a guild store far outnumbered the amount of people actually doing the content to get the gear.

This lead to a noticeable imbalance in the game on several levels, and that is when ZOS changed gear dropped in harder content areas to be BOP.

We really don't want to go there again.

Imbalance how??
If there is high demand but low supply, ppl who want it/want to sell it will take part in the dungeons...simple logic
I'd assume it's sometime between ESO just release and hardly anyone play it because all the negative review?

Lyserus

Yes

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

I don’t want to see a VMA Inferno Staff tagged for like 5 million golds in guild store

See what I said about monster sets?
Those that are actually hard-earned, like monster sets and of course VMA, VDSA sets, are supposed to be in bop catalog

lolo_01b16_ESO

Yes

Yeah, would be nice if I could make money by selling my trial loot again. I really miss the times when I could simply sell some rare gold jewelery I got in a trial whenever I needed to buy new pots or wanted to buy and test a new gear setup.

Lyserus

Yes

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Yeah, would be nice if I could make money by selling my trial loot again. I really miss the times when I could simply sell some rare gold jewelery I got in a trial whenever I needed to buy new pots or wanted to buy and test a new gear setup.

Ikr...I wonder what was the logic behind that decision

Colecovision

Currently, this is the only thing that keeps this game from being pay to win. Gold is available for real dollars and it doesn't hurt the game like people think. If these items were sellable, that would change everything.

altemriel

Yes

Lyserus wrote: »

I don't see the whole "you only get those sets if you farm them endlessly but sure you can buy those overland,pvp,craft set whenever you got gold" making sense.
If ZOS is not making all sets bind-on-pick-up, I don't see why target dungeon/trial sets are necessary

I don't against the way you obtain monster helm/shoulder, however you can get dungeon sets in normal dungeon, and those are easy.
So instead of let us farm for one piece among 3 sets* 8 traits* 7 parts, let the market flow

Note(Add4): I just realized in PTS you can't transmog sth and sell it again...quite pity, I'd hope ZOS can provide us with the option to sell re-traited items too

Add:
Note that making dungeon sets bind-on-equip enables not only selling, this makes someone else transmog for you possible, it will be a huge bonus for the upcoming clockwork DLC, as not everyone has a crafter alt

Add2:
If ZOS really want to make some "hard-earned" sets special, they should make pvp sets like tel var sets bind-on-pick-up too. The fact that they are not states that having bind-on-pick-up dungeon sets is just an old classic "WOW does that so we will do it"

Add3:
Note that still I am sure the good set piece with good trait will still worth a lot in the market, so if you don't want to pay that grinding is still an option (and presumebly more profitable if you can sell the pieces you don't want, and you don't have to keep them in your bank taking space if you feel like you can buy them later)
Making them sellable will bring only more options for all players. PVPers don't have to grind pve content, merchant players can have more stocks, those with money but short time can buy them without hassels, crafters can transmog for others to earn some more gold.....It only adds options, I don't see why some ppl have to hold on to the old idea

Add5:
Also, the only P2W factor in ESO, except for warden (which arguebly is P2W if warden ever becomes OP), is the dlc dungeon/trial sets. There is no way that other players can obtain them without getting dlc

yes, everyone knows that, except of ZOS.

In the meantime, you can farm public dungeons, there all drops are BOE (so sellable, tradable)

Rainraven

Yes

PVE-ers make some nice money doing the content they like.

PVP-ers never need to PVE again if they don't want to.

Yes please.

Medakon

No

No, was an option before, and they removed it. I prefer it stays removed.

VinyParsley2016

No

NO!

Runefang

No

No thanks. I like to grind.

Girl_Number8

No

No one would want to do those dungeons anymore. Though they could extend the trade time between grp members.

D0PAMINE

No

You should be able to complete the content to obtain the gear.

WrathOfInnos

Yes

Being able to sell loot would get so many experienced players to repeat content as a way of earning gold, right now there's no reason to replay dungeons after you have your one perfect gear set. Random groups have a bad reputation because the only people incentivized to do content are the ones who have not done it much.

It would not bother me at all if someone unable to complete a dungeon or trial could buy that gear. It's not any better than overland or crafted gear anyway. Anyone can be carried through any content currently, and nearly every vet drop can be farmed in normal mode anyway.

Thunderknuckles

Shadzilla wrote: »

BoP gear can be traded within your group and next week trait change is here... The horrible grind that was in this game is now gone, literally.

Not so sure about that, Shad. What I'm hearing about trait swapping with the transmutation thing is that it is immensely expensive. And that's the easy part. Trait swapping likely isn't going to be some easy peasy go to the crafting table and "voila!" you're done.

AcadianPaladin

Yes

Sellable dungeon gear means those who like to farm have more incentive to do so and those who do not like to farm can pay others to do it and go do things they enjoy.

My healer will not farm dungeons so she does not wear SPC. Yes, I dislike farming that much.

Runefang

No

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

Sellable dungeon gear means those who like to farm have more incentive to do so and those who do not like to farm can pay others to do it and go do things they enjoy.

My healer will not farm dungeons so she does not wear SPC. Yes, I dislike farming that much.

WGT is a pledge that comes up often, run it on vet and you'll get it in no time. Run it with a guild so that you have 4 times the odds, that's a massive help too.

supaskrub

No

No chance of Dungeon gear ever being BoE now, that would kind of defeat in one fell swoop the whole work that went into the Transmutation system. Anyway i like the system as it is.