overwhelming surge what is the point?

Xsorus · October 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Yea I won’t play without it on my Templar and considered grabbing it on my nightblade.

It's outstanding on melee mageblade and still very viable on destro mageblade since you use path, melee ultimates, fear

yea that's what i figured as well, I could see it being very nasty on a melee magicka nb...in fact I could probably just swap my current templar setup over and do fine.. though i'd probably swap to trans instead...

Lexxypwns · October 2017

Xsorus wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Yea I won’t play without it on my Templar and considered grabbing it on my nightblade.

It's outstanding on melee mageblade and still very viable on destro mageblade since you use path, melee ultimates, fear

yea that's what i figured as well, I could see it being very nasty on a melee magicka nb...in fact I could probably just swap my current templar setup over and do fine.. though i'd probably swap to trans instead...

You'll need to build more magika sustain into a melee mageblade than a magplar for sure so you'll have to give up something to recoup that

Brutusmax1mus · October 2017

Wish it stayed on one target. It's a pain when you're going after someone and you get gap closed, losing out on that damage bc its now hitting someone else. Great set for duels.

Exodium · October 2017

Trashs1 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

checked my mules... i have 2 rings and 2 inpen parts... *** i have to go to farm

I think there's a unique lightning staff and a neck

its of topic but.. why do u play your magblade with staffs? i have also a mag sorc and when i play my mageblade with staffs it feel so much weaker than my sorc.. TD:TR staffblade is just a weak sorc nothing more

i think dw/2h is the way to go as mageblade

Yep agreed running destro on magnb isnt as rewarding.

Atm I'm using a melee mag Nb with overwhelming front bar (sharpened 2h sword) and lich backbar, with skoria.

Holy crap I'm pretty much covered in every department. 3k mag recovery, 45k max magicka,2k crit resistance, decent health and stamina pool.

Surge is definitely the way to go on a melee Nb. Funny thing is I thought it'd pull me out of stealth which made me hesitant to use it, but it doesn't. In fact, it pulls other hiding nbs out of stealth

100% recommend overwhelming.

Ariades_swe · October 2017

Thanks to this thread I tried out Overwhelming and Riposte on my templar and It's by far the best setup I've used since the days of Soulshine and Spinners combo. I hope they won't nerf it.
Light with a defensive and an offensive set feels so strong on a magplar this patch.

Ashamray · October 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Imo, surge is one of the best small scale PVP damage sets. It adds similar spell damage to julianos (~100 less after buffs) and has a proc that breaks cloak and procs concussion. If you don't have a source of concussion in your build the proc will make Surge outperform all other damage sets in game.

Simple as that really

It also procs skoria onbuilds that usually don't have enough DoTs

Edit: goes through block and can't be dodged

This. Really fit the Templar, you can compensate class clumsiness with free damage. A bit stupid that your clothes (overwhelming + skoria) hurt ppl for you, but when you are a damage dealer magplar all kinds of actual damage dealing is ok for using.

Vanzen · October 2017

Well ...

Tried Shacklebreaker/Surge/Skoria on my DK in BG ...

5L/1m/1h.

8 Sturdy.

I wont say more ...

(Might switch from shackle to Innate next patch, what say you ?)

Waffennacht · October 2017

Vanzen wrote: »

Well ...

Tried Shacklebreaker/Surge/Skoria on my DK in BG ...

5L/1m/1h.

8 Sturdy.

I wont say more ...

(Might switch from shackle to Innate next patch, what say you ?)

That kind of set up is awesome until you get caught with block down while switching bars, even if you are running shields, a 16k will hurts

Adenoma · October 2017

I would prefer 5x desert rose, 5x overwhelming, 2x Skoria IMO. Let's you use tri food and have great max stats.

Trashs1 · October 2017

surge mania here

im actually changing my flat so i dont have time to play and still didnt test this set..

Vanzen · October 2017

Adenoma wrote: »

I would prefer 5x desert rose, 5x overwhelming, 2x Skoria IMO. Let's you use tri food and have great max stats.

I use tri stats food already.

With light, regen is enough at 1800.

2 regen enchant 1 dam. 1.9k sp unbuffed

Waffennacht wrote: »

Vanzen wrote: »

Well ...

(Might switch from shackle to Innate next patch, what say you ?)

That kind of set up is awesome until you get caught with block down while switching bars, even if you are running shields, a 16k will hurts

What you mean ?

16k ?

And anyway I try no to be blocking 24/24

Waffennacht · October 2017

Vanzen wrote: »

Adenoma wrote: »

I would prefer 5x desert rose, 5x overwhelming, 2x Skoria IMO. Let's you use tri food and have great max stats.

I use tri stats food already.

With light, regen is enough at 1800.

2 regen enchant 1 dam. 1.9k sp unbuffed

Waffennacht wrote: »

Vanzen wrote: »

Well ...

(Might switch from shackle to Innate next patch, what say you ?)

That kind of set up is awesome until you get caught with block down while switching bars, even if you are running shields, a 16k will hurts

What you mean ?

16k ?

And anyway I try no to be blocking 24/24

Lol I was running a very similar build and really only had trouble with @Lexxypwns he would time for my bar swap (block drops for a hair) and that's when he would use Assassin's Will, because of no impen, it would one shot me

Vanzen · October 2017

Lol I was running a very similar build and really only had trouble with @Lexxypwns he would time for my bar swap (block drops for a hair) and that's when he would use Assassin's Will, because of no impen, it would one shot me [/quote]

Well luckily the number of people able to time their burst around you swapping weapon is not that great

Waffennacht · October 2017

Vanzen wrote: »

Lol I was running a very similar build and really only had trouble with @Lexxypwns he would time for my bar swap (block drops for a hair) and that's when he would use Assassin's Will, because of no impen, it would one shot me

Well luckily the number of people able to time their burst around you swapping weapon is not that great

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You're very correct on that! BTW I couldn't get it work in no CP. Have you? And if so, what adjustments would you make?

Vanzen · October 2017

I ve only used the build in BG and having a blast. And am only just average + Pvper

I dont think it would work in Ciro no cp, though.

As I said

5l/1m/1H

8 sturdy

Atro mundus

2 regen / 1 Sp

Tri stat food

39.5k mag 17.5k stam.

1.7 mag regen

2k sp unbuffed (nirnhoned)

Embers/Lash/Talon/Stone Giant/GDB

Invasion/Engulfing/Degeneration/Volatile/Mist

Thats it.

VirtualElizabeth · October 2017

STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS SET!! LOL

Just kidding. I have been running it for a good 3 months or so and really love it. I have been using it primarily on my Templar but now I might try it on the DK.