I need everyone's advice for witches festival!!!

  • Marabornwingrion
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    None?

    Warden sucks and grinding CPs is stupid, play the game normally and learn it, CPs will come itself.
    I've already saw too many 660CP+ players who had no idea how to play (typical Skyreach grinders).
  • Runs
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    Don't be a fool lvl up a new warden
    If you want one character and one character only grind CP. If you plan on having alts, and it seems you do, use the extra exp to level the new character(and any others you are thinking about) to 50. CP comes fast once you are running level 50s through the quests and clearing out the zones.

    I can't speak for other high CP players but personally I regret any time I spent grinding CP. I'm at 1012 CP now, they just keep coming. Every second spent getting to the 501CP cap as fast as I could, was time that could have been spent doing other things in game. And CP is not the be all end all we all thought it would be, when we were lower CP. I'm not amazing because I am at/over cap.

    Part of me wishes they would do a complete overhaul of the CP system and make everything be non combat perks. Throw in reduced upgrade costs for crafting, increased %s on pickpocket, better odds for certain traits. Things that would stop the feeling of having to increase your CP. Things that would get people to stop arguing about CP and it's effects on gameplay. Things that take away a reason to cap it.
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  • zaria
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    Don't be a fool lvl up a new warden
    Anybody know how many xp is needed to get to cp 660?
    I found this small script is suposed to show xp requirements for cp gain
    https://jsfiddle.net/twtd6a70/1/
    put in you level in currentlevel and cp cap in levelcap

    However I'm xp 584 and it cost me around 370K xp to get one cp, but the calculation shows 399 for next level so I suspect its using pre morrowind values.

    From cp 584 to 660 is 32554160
    From cp 454 to 660 is 78774531

    I found that majority of my xp comes from the enlightened bonus as its very hard to beat the 4x multiplier for the first 400K xp unless you play a lot / grind very hard.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
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  • bottleofsyrup
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    What you thinkin grind to cp 660 scrub
    Tbh the event will be long enough for you to do both.
  • ArchMikem
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    What you thinkin grind to cp 660 scrub
    freespirit wrote: »
    Remember once you have one CP660 character EVERY character that reaches 50 is automatically CP660......

    Use that double xp to grind CP!!

    Levelling 1-50 is easy by comparison, don't need double xp for that!! :)

    Pretty much this. Even if you get a new lvl50 character quickly, you'll still have 200 CP to grind. And that will take a lot longer than getting a character up 50 levels.
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  • Azurya
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    Don't be a fool lvl up a new warden
    because it is fun, and fun we wanna have!
  • Rainraven
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    What you thinkin grind to cp 660 scrub
    Do both, but taking your warden from creation to 50 will be a lot faster and more fun than grinding up the CP, and life is better when you have your CP - especially if you want to do a BG ever again after this update.
  • Aurielle
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    This is what I'm doing: on my MagSorc or my Templar, both of whom seem to have better RNG luck, I'm going to grind CP with XP pots at dolmens in a zone that has a set I want for my new DK tank (which is currently level 9). Once all enlightenment is used up, I'm going to switch to the DK, pop an XP pot, and do the same thing at the Auridon dolmens. Once I've banked more enlightenment, I'll switch back to CP character and repeat the process.

    I'll never want to see another dolmen by the end of the event, but on the plus side, I'll have a fully levelled DK with purple jewelry and, hopefully, 450+ CP!
  • Asardes
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    Don't be a fool lvl up a new warden
    454 CP is enough to do any content in the game. Your potential efficacy is 95% of what a 660-690CP player will have due to the fact that starting with Morrowind the CP are more front loaded and have diminishing returns. Grinding CP to 160 and grinding a character to 50 once you have 160 CP+ may be useful to get top tier gear, but past that it's a waste of precious time better used to effectively learn playing the game. So go for the warden. See here how little those ~200 CP would really mean.
    Edited by Asardes on October 18, 2017 11:28AM
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  • eso_nya
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    Its a game: Do whats fun for u. if it isnt fun, dont do it. If grinding is your definition of "having fun in a game" sure, go ahead.
  • Huyen
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    Neither option. I'm 735 CP, and got myself a healer warden and dps sorcerer to toy around with. Not much else to level for me really.
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  • DeadlyRecluse
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    Don't be a fool lvl up a new warden
    Both, but if you plan on grinding the new toon (as opposed to questing it up or something more enjoyable) do that first.

    With 2x XP and a scroll active, you should be able to power up a new toon in an evening or two, leaving the rest of the time to push CP on either toon.
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  • Cameron991
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    Here's another question is warden even worth it
  • Nestor
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    There are 4, or 5, Double Exp events each year. We will have Witches for the last two weeks of the month, then New Life near the end of the year, Jester around Spring Break, one for the Anniversary in April. I think the Mid Summer one is just Double AP.

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Holiday+Events

    So, you have plenty of Double EXP events coming in the next 6 months.
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  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    As others have already said in here, you can do both, OP.

    The double-XP buff stacks with other XP buffs, so you can start a new Warden, get him/her to level 50 in short order, and then use your new Warden to grind out the rest of your trip to 660.

    It's a win-win, and all you really have to do is join in with one of the Zergs that will be on grind-course through... pretty much any/all Public Dungeons. They'll be running in large circles through the Public Dungeons, hitting the Champions and Bosses as they respawn. As long as you do damage to the Champions, Public Event Boss, and Dungeon Boss; you get the XP (at the buffed rate), the Plunder Skulls, and the benefit of all those Champion Points.

    The Witches Festival is one of those events where it really benefits a person wanting to level out a brand new character.

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  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    As others have already said in here, you can do both, OP.

    The double-XP buff stacks with other XP buffs, so you can start a new Warden, get him/her to level 50 in short order, and then use your new Warden to grind out the rest of your trip to 660.

    It's a win-win, and all you really have to do is join in with one of the Zergs that will be on grind-course through... pretty much any/all Public Dungeons. They'll be running in large circles through the Public Dungeons, hitting the Champions and Bosses as they respawn. As long as you do damage to the Champions, Public Event Boss, and Dungeon Boss; you get the XP (at the buffed rate), the Plunder Skulls, and the benefit of all those Champion Points.

    The Witches Festival is one of those events where it really benefits a person wanting to level out a brand new character.

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  • Linaleah
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    bear in mind though. you can use crown store scroll, OR in game crafted xp potion. you cannot use both simultaneously, they do NOT stack.
    dirty worthless casual.
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  • Girl_Number8
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    What you thinkin grind to cp 660 scrub
    take the cp it will make your other characters happy and as a result they will die less :)
  • Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO
    Don't be a fool lvl up a new warden
    Grinding CP without enlightenment is a huge pain, just level alts and the CP will come in time.
  • Tandor
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    My advice would be to ignore the xp boost, just play the game the way you want to. It's neither a race nor a competition, nor is it an exercise in establishing let alone pursuing the most efficient way of reaching whatever you might consider to be "the end". Just play, and enjoy.
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    What you thinkin grind to cp 660 scrub
    I realize the two options given were a bit tongue in cheek humor. The reality is that it depends a lot upon what you enjoy. Personally, I can't imagine leveling any characters outside of Kyne (or whatever the nooby server gets called). For that reason I suggest you focus on gaining cp.
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  • Approveddd
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    i'm in a simular situation as you, what i choose to do is just find a main character and try to complete everything on him.
    so i'd suggest to level the warden first then choose a main and just play on that one
  • Bouldercleave
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    You for got the option of don't grind at all.

    Just play the game.
  • Runefang
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    What you thinkin grind to cp 660 scrub
    I'd rather grind to 660 than roll a Warden.

    But better to roll another class than grind to 660.
  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    What you thinkin grind to cp 660 scrub
    Grind the collectibles and stash them. Sell six months later = millions. B)

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  • Cameron991
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    Runefang wrote: »
    I'd rather grind to 660 than roll a Warden.

    But better to roll another class than grind to 660.

    Why not warden
  • Kalante
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    Don't be a fool lvl up a new warden
    Cameron991 wrote: »
    Here's another question is warden even worth it

    it does more burst dps than any other class and the worst part is that it has the best survival. Just goes to show zos doesn't know how balance anything.
  • Cameron991
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    Kalante wrote: »
    Cameron991 wrote: »
    Here's another question is warden even worth it

    it does more burst dps than any other class and the worst part is that it has the best survival. Just goes to show zos doesn't know how balance anything.

    Really? Stamina I assume? And why does everyone say it's bad?
  • Nestor
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    Cameron991 wrote: »
    And why does everyone say it's bad?

    The Min Maxers and those focused on max DPS don't like the Wardens.

    However, when I duo killed the Daedroth World Boss in Stormhaven on my L14 Warden with an L9 Scrub who was hanging around and helping out, it showed me the Warden is a viable PvE character outside of Vet Dungeons and Trials. And, it may not be too bad for those, it all depends. Probably best as Healers in those places.

    But you have to play them to the Class, and that means using the Heals to Survive and the Ranged Attacks to chip away at the mobs. So, a Warden can be fun character to play, but your not going to get invited to every party with them. They are not a YOLO wade in and spam damage skills type of character.

    Personally, it would be the last Class I would roll.

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  • Cameron991
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Cameron991 wrote: »
    And why does everyone say it's bad?

    The Min Maxers and those focused on max DPS don't like the Wardens.

    However, when I duo killed the Daedroth World Boss in Stormhaven on my L14 Warden with an L9 Scrub who was hanging around and helping out, it showed me the Warden is a viable PvE character outside of Vet Dungeons and Trials. And, it may not be too bad for those, it all depends. Probably best as Healers in those places.

    But you have to play them to the Class, and that means using the Heals to Survive and the Ranged Attacks to chip away at the mobs. So, a Warden can be fun character to play, but your not going to get invited to every party with them. They are not a YOLO wade in and spam damage skills type of character.

    Personally, it would be the last Class I would roll.

    Why do ppl say it's the best burst damage then?
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