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Skillpoint from morrowind tutorial unobtainable for toons created before morrowind. Change please?
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Defilted✭✭✭✭✭
✭it is one skill point........ Does this stop you from an achievement or something?XBOX NA
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Osteos✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's one skill point. Get over itDAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault0 -
jlboozer✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!Who would actually vote no on this? Of course we need the skill point, there is no logical reason we shouldn't.5 -
Iselin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Irmagerd...this complaint is still a thing? Go out and get all the other hundreds of skill points it's possible to get in the game and when the only one you don't have is that one, come back and whine about how you need it to make your life complete.
Can you NOT READ! Completionists desire this point even if we don't need it... dam
Can YOU not read? Do you have all other skill points except this one?
Dude, If you bothered to read my first comment in my thread i have 340 skillpoints with 12 unused, I want this skill point to COLLECT it, not to use... do you know what a completionist is?
Yeah I know what a completionist is... it's like OCD but for gaming
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wenchmore420b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!There are currently 560 skill points necessary to fill all skills and passives.
There are 93 skills a char can learn (vamp & wolf both counted, only one class skill line).
There are 374 points necessary to complete all passives (147 points for crafting).
I have:
380 total skill points available
Total Abilities + Morphs: 539 / 546 if WW
Total Available Skill Points before Morrowind: 368
Skill Point Chart Here:Skyshards: 127
Reach character level 50: 64
Reach Alliance Rank 50: 50
Complete all main story quests: 11
Complete alliance storyline quests: 49
Complete Imperial City DLC: 1
Complete Orsinium DLC: 3
Complete Thieves Guild DLC: 6
Complete Dark Brotherhood DLC: 8
Read the Folium Discognitum in the Mages’ Guild storyline: 2 (irreversible choice during quest turn in, be careful)
Slay group bosses in all public dungeons: 18
Complete quests in normal difficulty group dungeons: 16
Complete quests in veteran dungeons: 8
Complete Imperial City DLC group dungeons: 2
Complete Maelstom Arena in Orsinium: 1
Complete the Shadows of the Hist dungeons: 2
Total Available Skill Points in Morrowind: 12
Morrowind skyshards: 6
Complete Morrowind tutorial: 1
Complete Vivec quest line: 1
Complete Morag Tong quest line: 1
Complete Telvanni quest line: 1
Complete Morrowind public dungeon event: 2
Total Available Skill Points as of Morrowind update: 380Drakon Koryn~Oryndill, Rogue~Mage,- CP ~Doesn't matter any more
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NotaBobSoul ShrivenThis is bloody stupid, there is far more imporant things for zos to do in eso right now, its just a single skillpoint.1
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No thank you, all toons created before morrowind do not deserve this skillpoint.Squeaky_Clean wrote: »Biased poll. Lacks the option "I don't care about a single, measly skill point".
Exactly. I have lost not a second of sleep over one skill point in this game.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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Enodoc✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!It's one skill point. Get over itIts just one skill point, its not really that big of a deal imo
Whether it's one skill point or one hundred is not the issue. Consistency across characters is the issue.This is bloody stupid, there is far more imporant things for zos to do in eso right now, its just a single skillpoint.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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Shadzilla✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!It's one skill point. Get over itIts just one skill point, its not really that big of a deal imo
Whether it's one skill point or one hundred is not the issue. Consistency across characters is the issue.This is bloody stupid, there is far more imporant things for zos to do in eso right now, its just a single skillpoint.
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MehrunesFlagon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Squeaky_Clean wrote: »Biased poll. Lacks the option "I don't care about a single, measly skill point".
see what I mean? as I said the idc crowd is coming and is going to flame this thread. they will say zos has more important things to do and then from there they will say one skill point wont make a difference when you have 300plus skillpoints when they don't understand that completionism is a playstyle that exists weither they care about it or not
thwy do have more important things to worry about.0 -
Shadzilla✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!MehrunesFlagon wrote: »who cares.it's one skill point.MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Squeaky_Clean wrote: »Biased poll. Lacks the option "I don't care about a single, measly skill point".
see what I mean? as I said the idc crowd is coming and is going to flame this thread. they will say zos has more important things to do and then from there they will say one skill point wont make a difference when you have 300plus skillpoints when they don't understand that completionism is a playstyle that exists weither they care about it or not
thwy do have more important things to worry about.
93% of the people who vote care, buddy... You know what they should worry about? Listening to the PTS feedback... It would have been nice if they listened to the countless people that complained about it during the PTS period. People don't just give feedback because it makes them feel good, we do it so the bugs get fixed. They disregard a massive amount of things they are completely aware about every PTS... Back when orsinium came out gil reported in the PTS how carnage was broken and not working... They acknowledged it on these forums, and didn't fix it until the next patch 6 months later. You know how messed up it was having your main toon a khajiit without the only decent passive working? Back when race change was not allowed either...Edited by Shadzilla on October 7, 2017 12:30AM1 -
Chronicburn✭✭✭✭Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!Too many people like this idea ... zos will never do it1
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MehrunesFlagon✭✭✭✭✭
✭disintegr8 wrote: »I don't care because there are plenty of skill points you can get elsewhere without relying on this one.
That's cool, except for the other 95% of the people that do care. No one is "relying" on this skill point, it is a quality of life thing. Why drive when you could walk? The big issue lies within the perfectionist and completionist players. How would you feel if you had every single skill point in the game unlocked, except this one? All due to incompetence... This was reported on the PTS by several people, and ignored.
More than like because it was and still is Micky mouse ***0 -
MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!The alternative quest that sends you to investigate Firemoth Island ought to award a Skill Point. Easy and obvious answer.Edited by MasterSpatula on October 7, 2017 12:32AM"A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle2 -
Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!MasterSpatula wrote: »The alternative quest that sends you to investigate Firemoth Island ought to award a Skill Point. Easy and obvious answer.
problem is if you own morrowind and skip the tutorial you still get the skillpoint0 -
Shadzilla✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!MehrunesFlagon wrote: »
93% of the poll wants this skillpoint... I do not think everyone will agree with you.MehrunesFlagon wrote: »who cares.it's one skill point.MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Squeaky_Clean wrote: »Biased poll. Lacks the option "I don't care about a single, measly skill point".
see what I mean? as I said the idc crowd is coming and is going to flame this thread. they will say zos has more important things to do and then from there they will say one skill point wont make a difference when you have 300plus skillpoints when they don't understand that completionism is a playstyle that exists weither they care about it or not
thwy do have more important things to worry about.
93% of the people who vote care, buddy... You know what they should worry about? Listening to the PTS feedback... It would have been nice if they listened to the countless people that complained about it during the PTS period. People don't just give feedback because it makes them feel good, we do it so the bugs get fixed. They disregard a massive amount of things they are completely aware about every PTS... Back when orsinium came out gil reported in the PTS how carnage was broken and not working... They acknowledged it on these forums, and didn't fix it until the next patch 6 months later. You know how messed up it was having your main toon a khajiit without the only decent passive working? Back when race change was not allowed either...
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Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Dude you need to go outside take a breather. One skillpoint will not let you suddenly access every skill in the game. It really does not impact the game in any meaningful way to have one less skillpoint on a toon when there are literally hundreds of them.
If the new toons are double dipping Morrowind and Coldharbor tutorials, just scrap the skillpoint quest rewards and leave them with the level-up points only.Edited by Jhalin on October 7, 2017 1:16AM0 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No thank you, all toons created before morrowind do not deserve this skillpoint.93% of the people who vote care, buddy...
The poll did not ask if people care. The poll asked if people wanted something for free. Let's try a poll asking people how important that skill point is, or even how many unallocated skill points they currently have across their characters.You know what they should worry about? Listening to the PTS feedback... It would have been nice if they listened to the countless people that complained about it during the PTS period. People don't just give feedback because it makes them feel good, we do it so the bugs get fixed.
I would just be happy if they would address bugs faster, even if they never did anything with PTS again. I'd be happier if they had a better process in place to catch bugs before release.
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Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!lordrichter wrote: »93% of the people who vote care, buddy...
The poll did not ask if people care. The poll asked if people wanted something for free. Let's try a poll asking people how important that skill point is, or even how many unallocated skill points they currently have across their characters.You know what they should worry about? Listening to the PTS feedback... It would have been nice if they listened to the countless people that complained about it during the PTS period. People don't just give feedback because it makes them feel good, we do it so the bugs get fixed.
I would just be happy if they would address bugs faster, even if they never did anything with PTS again. I'd be happier if they had a better process in place to catch bugs before release.
not exactly free since I paid for morrowind and my pre morrowind character cant access the same skillpoint my newer characters canDude you need to go outside take a breather. One skillpoint will not let you suddenly access every skill in the game. It really does not impact the game in any meaningful way to have one less skillpoint on a toon when there are literally hundreds of them.
If the new toons are double dipping Morrowind and Coldharbor tutorials, just scrap the skillpoint quest rewards and leave them with the level-up points only.
Many of us are collectors and like to collect everything in the game, skillpoints being one of those things even if we don't need them to be allocated2 -
Enodoc✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!
Right. If you own Morrowind and skip the tutorial you get a skill point, and then you'd get another one for that quest too, leaving players with new Morrowind characters still one point ahead of some of the others.
problem is if you own morrowind and skip the tutorial you still get the skillpointMasterSpatula wrote: »The alternative quest that sends you to investigate Firemoth Island ought to award a Skill Point. Easy and obvious answer.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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Vizikul✭✭✭✭I completed both tutorials and my warden character did not get another skill point for the wailing prison. So, how exactly do Morrowind characters have more skill points?Pugging. Pugging all the way to victory.Imperial Dragonknight --- male, stamina, heavy & medium armor, dual wield, one hand and shield, two handed.
Breton Templar --- female, magicka, light armor, restoration staff.
Redguard Warden --- female, stamina, medium armor, bow.
Breton Sorcerer --- male, magicka, light armor, destruction staff.
Imperial Templar --- male, stamina, medium armor, two handed.
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Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It doesn't bother me personally, and I don't fully understand why it bothers completionists who surely need only to complete a character with all skill points that are available to that character. Most players, however, will be missing some skill points here or there depending on whether or not they have done all the DLCs as well as PvP zones etc, and from a practical point of view there are more than anyone really needs.
I have no problem with the case for the extra skill point to be made available to pre-Morrowind characters, in many ways it makes sense while not being a priority, but I would need an unbiased poll before I actually voted for it.1 -
itehache✭✭✭✭No thank you, all toons created before morrowind do not deserve this skillpoint.I mean, it is not like we deserve it or not, it is just 1 skill point. You can hget many skill points all over Tamriel, questing, public dungeons, normal dungeons, vet dungeons, pvp... I do not think 1 makes a huge difference.1 -
Enodoc✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!
@aliyavana Looks like we may need to test this again... maybe they fixed it without telling us? If they have fixed that still leaves a bunch of characters with one extra skill point though...I completed both tutorials and my warden character did not get another skill point for the wailing prison. So, how exactly do Morrowind characters have more skill points?UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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AdamBourke✭✭✭✭✭Yes please, toons created before morrowind deserve access to this skillpoint!They could just make it a reward for getting as far as Vivec or something, for those who havent done the tutorial quest.PS4 - EU
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