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Furnishing Plans affect Legendary Writ drop rates?
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I know this wasn't stated, or at least, not that i have seen but since doing these unlocks achievements linked to crafting (Learn 25/50/100 plans etc) - Does it have any bearing on legendary writ drop rate?
I do believe achievements linked to crafting affected this chance but am unsure on this and whether to increase alt progression with these recipes like Motifs, or just sell them,
Many thanks for clarification @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
I do believe achievements linked to crafting affected this chance but am unsure on this and whether to increase alt progression with these recipes like Motifs, or just sell them,
Many thanks for clarification @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
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Liley✭✭✭✭I dont know. I get less master writs since I learn more and more furniture plans.
It's said the more motifs you know the higher the chance to get a master writ. Can't really confirm that. My main char maybe had only a minimal higher drop rate than my twinks which dont know any motifs.PC | EU
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✭✭✭Don't believe so I have all 9 traits, every in game motif, and 1209 patterns learned on my main crafter that hasn't seen a MW in like 2-3 weeks6 -
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✭Nice Cpt on the furnishings, my main only 810'ish atm although he knows all motifs apart from Armiger.
Last few days i have got maybe 5 legendary writs over my account each day, although the progression is solid on motifs/traits for my alts. Got ~130 ish vouchers today.
I wonder furnishing, not for the plans you know but for unlocking/completing the achievements linked with them counts towards this. I will link @ZOS_GinaBruno and @ZOS_JessicaFolsom in the slim chance they reply, although it is usually with a meme lol
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SolidusPrime✭✭✭✭Unless they changed it recently, no.
Alchemy – Looks at how many reagents from which you’ve completely learned all effects.
Enchanting – Looks at the total overall rune word translations you’ve completed on that character.
Provisioning – Looks at your collection of known purple and gold recipes.
Blacksmithing, Clothier, and Woodworking – Looks at your overall motif knowledge excluding Crown-exclusive motifs and the 9 base player races. It focuses on motifs that take some effort to learn – like Xivkyn, or Minotaur, or Celestial. It also looks at you overall completion of trait research.
Also, there was a post somewhere else that clarified this as only counting motifs that are 100% complete. Knowing 14/15 or whatever of a particular set won't count. So as they release more and more motifs, your chances will go down if you don't keep completing them.Edited by SolidusPrime on September 29, 2017 4:38PM2 -
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✭✭✭SolidusPrime wrote: »Unless they changed it recently, no.
Alchemy – Looks at how many reagents from which you’ve completely learned all effects.
Enchanting – Looks at the total overall rune word translations you’ve completed on that character.
Provisioning – Looks at your collection of known purple and gold recipes.
Blacksmithing, Clothier, and Woodworking – Looks at your overall motif knowledge excluding Crown-exclusive motifs and the 9 base player races. It focuses on motifs that take some effort to learn – like Xivkyn, or Minotaur, or Celestial. It also looks at you overall completion of trait research.
Yeah that's what I thought but I think it might be combining everything now0 -
SolidusPrime✭✭✭✭SolidusPrime wrote: »Unless they changed it recently, no.
Alchemy – Looks at how many reagents from which you’ve completely learned all effects.
Enchanting – Looks at the total overall rune word translations you’ve completed on that character.
Provisioning – Looks at your collection of known purple and gold recipes.
Blacksmithing, Clothier, and Woodworking – Looks at your overall motif knowledge excluding Crown-exclusive motifs and the 9 base player races. It focuses on motifs that take some effort to learn – like Xivkyn, or Minotaur, or Celestial. It also looks at you overall completion of trait research.
Yeah that's what I thought but I think it might be combining everything now
I edited my post after you grabbed it for your quote...I think the motif thing is the main reason people are seeing less writs than they are used to.Edited by SolidusPrime on September 29, 2017 4:40PM0 -
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✭✭✭SolidusPrime wrote: »SolidusPrime wrote: »Unless they changed it recently, no.
Alchemy – Looks at how many reagents from which you’ve completely learned all effects.
Enchanting – Looks at the total overall rune word translations you’ve completed on that character.
Provisioning – Looks at your collection of known purple and gold recipes.
Blacksmithing, Clothier, and Woodworking – Looks at your overall motif knowledge excluding Crown-exclusive motifs and the 9 base player races. It focuses on motifs that take some effort to learn – like Xivkyn, or Minotaur, or Celestial. It also looks at you overall completion of trait research.
Yeah that's what I thought but I think it might be combining everything now
I edited my post after you grabbed it for your quote...I think the motif thing is the main reason people are seeing less writs than they are used to.
Yeah that's the problem my main has every single motif in game all 14/14 pages of all in game motifs0 -
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✭SolidusPrime wrote: »SolidusPrime wrote: »Unless they changed it recently, no.
Alchemy – Looks at how many reagents from which you’ve completely learned all effects.
Enchanting – Looks at the total overall rune word translations you’ve completed on that character.
Provisioning – Looks at your collection of known purple and gold recipes.
Blacksmithing, Clothier, and Woodworking – Looks at your overall motif knowledge excluding Crown-exclusive motifs and the 9 base player races. It focuses on motifs that take some effort to learn – like Xivkyn, or Minotaur, or Celestial. It also looks at you overall completion of trait research.
Yeah that's what I thought but I think it might be combining everything now
I edited my post after you grabbed it for your quote...I think the motif thing is the main reason people are seeing less writs than they are used to.
Yeah that's the problem my main has every single motif in game all 14/14 pages of all in game motifs
My motif knowledge is solid on all my characters with traits researched being 7+. My main 9 trait all motifs apart from Armiger. I get many legendary writs, always between 2-200 though no big jackpots but im not remarking on the drop rate being bad/good.
I know ZoS didnt mention furnishing completion to affecting these but i am wondering as they are linked to crafting and have achievements linked with them (100 diagrams/patterns etc). I linked them here but doubtful they will reply and sent in a ticket asking for clarification.
On the other hand, asking a simple question i would assume it would be easy to take 1 minute to clarify but will see how that goes )0 -
Ekadzati✭✭✭So as they release more and more motifs, your chances will go down if you don't keep completing them.
@ZOS_GinaBruno - Is this true? If so, this is officially my new "KILL THIS WITH FIRE" target. That's just... manipulative and punitive and I do not like it, nor what it points toward about ZOS thinking on things. I am actually very hopeful that you will reply to correct a misunderstanding, since punishing people for not being OCD over time is, well, just wrong.
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Ekadzati✭✭✭@Ekadzati - Of course new motifs added, that are not crown exclusives, will affect drop chances )
You mistake me - does no one understand the longterm effects of rapidly aging collectible content? I mean, I don't care if players don't immediately see it, but I would expect it to be very obvious to @ZOS_GinaBruno and her gang... hence my response.
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✭@Ekadzati - Of course new motifs added, that are not crown exclusives, will affect drop chances )
You mistake me - does no one understand the longterm effects of rapidly aging collectible content? I mean, I don't care if players don't immediately see it, but I would expect it to be very obvious to @ZOS_GinaBruno and her gang... hence my response.
I think, your viewing this incorrectly. Motifs will never age if ESO keep them current with Motif knowledge being a factor to gain Legendary writs and Legendary writs being used to obtain items solely sold in the Writ voucher merchant.
Apart from that, some people like the aesthetic look of some motifs, regardless of when they were released.
Apart from these points i can't see where your going with this0 -
mdylan2013✭✭✭✭✭So as they release more and more motifs, your chances will go down if you don't keep completing them.
@ZOS_GinaBruno - Is this true? If so, this is officially my new "KILL THIS WITH FIRE" target. That's just... manipulative and punitive and I do not like it, nor what it points toward about ZOS thinking on things. I am actually very hopeful that you will reply to correct a misunderstanding, since punishing people for not being OCD over time is, well, just wrong.
It's not true. @ZOS_GinaBruno stated previously that as they add new motifs it will actually increase your chances.PS4/EU
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✭✭✭✭✭SolidusPrime wrote: »Unless they changed it recently, no.
Alchemy – Looks at how many reagents from which you’ve completely learned all effects.
Enchanting – Looks at the total overall rune word translations you’ve completed on that character.
Provisioning – Looks at your collection of known purple and gold recipes.
Blacksmithing, Clothier, and Woodworking – Looks at your overall motif knowledge excluding Crown-exclusive motifs and the 9 base player races. It focuses on motifs that take some effort to learn – like Xivkyn, or Minotaur, or Celestial. It also looks at you overall completion of trait research.
In theory, yes. But in practice, not a single player I interact with regularly has found this to be true. Many of us have even found consistently higher drop rates of Master Writs on our crafters with fewer motifs learned.
Which doesn't necessarily mean that everyone is right and motif learning doesn't help. But it DOES mean that the rate increase is pathetically minuscule enough to have such a small effect that players can't notice it. And really, that's just as bad."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle6 -
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✭MasterSpatula wrote: »SolidusPrime wrote: »Unless they changed it recently, no.
Alchemy – Looks at how many reagents from which you’ve completely learned all effects.
Enchanting – Looks at the total overall rune word translations you’ve completed on that character.
Provisioning – Looks at your collection of known purple and gold recipes.
Blacksmithing, Clothier, and Woodworking – Looks at your overall motif knowledge excluding Crown-exclusive motifs and the 9 base player races. It focuses on motifs that take some effort to learn – like Xivkyn, or Minotaur, or Celestial. It also looks at you overall completion of trait research.
In theory, yes. But in practice, not a single player I interact with regularly has found this to be true. Many of us have even found consistently higher drop rates of Master Writs on our crafters with fewer motifs learned.
Which doesn't necessarily mean that everyone is right and motif learning doesn't help. But it DOES mean that the rate increase is pathetically minuscule enough to have such a small effect that players can't notice it. And really, that's just as bad.
I can agree with this, doing writs everyday, over 10+ characters my main who is the best of in terms of what ZoS stated to increase chances, has got the least rewards. My alts continue to get more legendary writs and of higher value.
People can state RNG, but i have been doing this since Morrowind release, so over the course of time has passed, RNG should of evened out by now and shown a definitive increase that my main character has received. It hasn't.1 -
CelticStones✭✭✭MasterSpatula wrote: »In theory, yes. But in practice, not a single player I interact with regularly has found this to be true. Many of us have even found consistently higher drop rates of Master Writs on our crafters with fewer motifs learned.
Which doesn't necessarily mean that everyone is right and motif learning doesn't help. But it DOES mean that the rate increase is pathetically minuscule enough to have such a small effect that players can't notice it. And really, that's just as bad.
I have 9 alts doing writs daily. Only my main has every trait AND every style learnt and drop rate would appear to be less then my other alts who have zero styles learnt and are just now completing 8th and 9th trait research. One post from devs seems to be the only 'evidence' that styles affect rates.
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✭✭✭✭✭CelticStones wrote: »MasterSpatula wrote: »In theory, yes. But in practice, not a single player I interact with regularly has found this to be true. Many of us have even found consistently higher drop rates of Master Writs on our crafters with fewer motifs learned.
Which doesn't necessarily mean that everyone is right and motif learning doesn't help. But it DOES mean that the rate increase is pathetically minuscule enough to have such a small effect that players can't notice it. And really, that's just as bad.
I have 9 alts doing writs daily. Only my main has every trait AND every style learnt and drop rate would appear to be less then my other alts who have zero styles learnt and are just now completing 8th and 9th trait research. One post from devs seems to be the only 'evidence' that styles affect rates.
I wouldn't be shocked if they mistakenly replaced the positive with a negative on their modifier on this, honestly. And also that they're arrogant enough to ignore all the people saying it's not working and never check things.
Not saying that's true, just saying it wouldn't surprise me if it were.Edited by MasterSpatula on September 30, 2017 10:19PM"A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle3 -
SquareSausage✭✭✭✭✭It would be good to get confirmtion on all of the points addressed in this thread.
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✭✭✭✭✭You will notice less which each patch if don't collect new motifs. There's also a correction to you achievement points. Lastly sacifice a goat. This is the best method.
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SquareSausage✭✭✭✭✭You will notice less which each patch if don't collect new motifs. There's also a correction to you achievement points. Lastly sacifice a goat. This is the best method.
The thing is, ZoS said that should not be the case, that any newly added subsequent unlearned motifs does not reduce your chances.Breakfast KingPS4 EU1 -
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✭I have mailed ZoS support on this issue, not looking for drop rates as they will never give them out, i look for clarification on what does affect Legendary writs dropping.
They have escalated the ticket recently to the specialist team. I will only post facts as too many post random information which only makes the issue more cloudy which doesn't favour any player.2 -
Ekadzati✭✭✭mdylan2013 wrote: »So as they release more and more motifs, your chances will go down if you don't keep completing them.
@ZOS_GinaBruno - Is this true? If so, this is officially my new "KILL THIS WITH FIRE" target. That's just... manipulative and punitive and I do not like it, nor what it points toward about ZOS thinking on things. I am actually very hopeful that you will reply to correct a misunderstanding, since punishing people for not being OCD over time is, well, just wrong.
It's not true. @ZOS_GinaBruno stated previously that as they add new motifs it will actually increase your chances.
Whew. Well, that does make me feel better. Thanks!
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