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Solution to excessive champion ship points problem (Moonsugar ambrosias :)
Make2k15
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Having close to 1000 cp points atm myself I have sometimes wondered will I ever get to actually use these cps. And as far as I know some of the most avid players have already about 3000 cp points. I came up of an idea of negative experience ambrosias.
Depending on cp amount these ambrosias either slows cp generation (< cp cap level), no cp generation (at cp cap level) or causes cp degeneration (> cp cap level). CP degeneration has exponential curve towards higher cp amounts. These rare ambrosias (some illegal) are meant for special occasions or just shred some cps in favor of your group members.
Blessings of meridia
+500% cp degeneration. No effect to cp generation at cp cap or below.
+10% cp generation for below cp cap level group members if you have above cap level cps.
Khajiit delight
+100% cp degeneration. -50% cp generation below cp cap. No cp generation at cp cap.
-5000 max magicka
+150wd
-Illegal substance. Causes bounty if witness sees u.
Daedric ambrosia
+100% cp degeneration. -50% cp generation below cp cap. No cp generation at cp cap.
-5000 max stamina
+150sd
-Illegal substance. Causes bounty if witness sees u.
Sheogorath's aged cheese
+250% cp degeneration. -125% cp generation below cp cap. No cp generation at cp cap.
+100% chance to drop motifs
-Causes drunk like personality
-Illegal substance. Causes bounty if witness sees u.
Skooma in TES 3:
en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Skooma
"In TES 3 Morrowind Skooma increases your speed and strength, while decreasing your intelligence and agility."
"Skooma, in lore, is also known to have long-term effects, including a decrease of literacy and vocabulary."
Edited by Make2k15 on September 25, 2017 5:36PM Depending on cp amount these ambrosias either slows cp generation (< cp cap level), no cp generation (at cp cap level) or causes cp degeneration (> cp cap level). CP degeneration has exponential curve towards higher cp amounts. These rare ambrosias (some illegal) are meant for special occasions or just shred some cps in favor of your group members.
Blessings of meridia
+500% cp degeneration. No effect to cp generation at cp cap or below.
+10% cp generation for below cp cap level group members if you have above cap level cps.
Khajiit delight
+100% cp degeneration. -50% cp generation below cp cap. No cp generation at cp cap.
-5000 max magicka
+150wd
-Illegal substance. Causes bounty if witness sees u.
Daedric ambrosia
+100% cp degeneration. -50% cp generation below cp cap. No cp generation at cp cap.
-5000 max stamina
+150sd
-Illegal substance. Causes bounty if witness sees u.
Sheogorath's aged cheese
+250% cp degeneration. -125% cp generation below cp cap. No cp generation at cp cap.
+100% chance to drop motifs
-Causes drunk like personality
-Illegal substance. Causes bounty if witness sees u.
Skooma in TES 3:
en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Skooma
"In TES 3 Morrowind Skooma increases your speed and strength, while decreasing your intelligence and agility."
"Skooma, in lore, is also known to have long-term effects, including a decrease of literacy and vocabulary."
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Sorc Healer "Potema the Wolf Queen"
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Magicka Nightblade DPS "Nephaleth Telvanni"
Dragonknight Tank "Nico's Facsimile"
Builds & Guides:
Horow's Templar Healer Guide for Trials (Murkmire updated)
How to get Felms to jump correctly in vAS HM?
Horow's vMA Magicka Sorc Build for beginners and lazy farmers
Horow's Magicka Sorc Triple Pet Heavy Attack Build - Summerset Isles Ready
More builds at anthem-guild.com/pve/.
Notable Achievements:
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- World's first 20+ enrage stack Llothis in vAS HM and World record cone damage4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Skooma is a hell of a drug.
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✭✭✭✭✭Horowonnoe wrote: »lol!
Very true. I expect that was the intention of the OP. Just a little humor about the extra CP many of us have.0 -
Cage_Lizardman✭✭✭✭✭Allow us to extract our excess cp points and make xp scrolls, so we can train new alts faster.1 -
DenniMyuu✭✭✭✭How about no...Possessed Myuutikora | Argonian | Templar | Healer | Master Angler • Goddess Goni | Argonian | Warden | Healer
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GaunterODim✭✭✭✭I support the idea to make use of unnecessary champion points, but giving an unfair advantage like that is out of question. It would need to be some quality of life improvement that wouldnt influence pvp or pve balance.0 -
Make2k15✭✭Horowonnoe wrote: »lol!
Very true. I expect that was the intention of the OP. Just a little humor about the extra CP many of us have.
Well, yeah, the tittle has smiley in it doesn't it
It's a raw idea meant for just inspiration. Thinking about this stuff to actually make it's way to the game made me kinda chuckle a bit for sure 
On a serious note though In TES3 moosugar in fact was a alchemical ingredient en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Moon_Sugar. I kinda little bit expected it to be available as alchemical ingredient in Morrowind chapter too.GaunterODim wrote: »I support the idea to make use of unnecessary champion points, but giving an unfair advantage like that is out of question. It would need to be some quality of life improvement that wouldnt influence pvp or pve balance.
Unfair advantage? Well, anybody with cps capped could use it and cps are about similar advantage anyway. People tend to gain cp in different rate depending how much they have time to play and this would be one way to put everybody on about the same level when new content with new cp cap would be added to the game.
In implementation level if the base xp degeneration would be implemented to have exponential (or even logarithmic) degeneration curve then the guys with 3k cps would not be able to use these ambrosias very long until they would be back at the cp cap level again. So these ambrosias would be meant to be used in just special occasions like if you try to complete some difficult content or to make leaderboards.
What the actual ambrosias would be ofc is debatable and would be decided by the devs anyway.Edited by Make2k15 on September 24, 2017 9:52AM0 -
I_killed_Vivec✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Can't see it working... but then I've seen players with well over 900 CP struggle with a few wasps in Craglorn. The number of CP you have managed to grind in no way reflects ability.
Can't see why they should get a bonus for shedding a few CP points.2 -
Make2k15✭✭I_killed_Vivec wrote: »Can't see it working... but then I've seen players with well over 900 CP struggle with a few wasps in Craglorn. The number of CP you have managed to grind in no way reflects ability.
Can't see why they should get a bonus for shedding a few CP points.
Ok, no competition advantage wanted for high cp guys. Understood I gave a bit more serious though on this and come up with following system:
Having close to 1000 cp points atm myself I have sometimes wondered will I ever get to actually use these cps. And as far as I know some of the most avid players have already about 3000 cp points. I came up of an idea of negative experience ambrosias.
Depending on cp amount these ambrosias either slows cp generation (< cp cap level), no cp generation (at cp cap level) or causes cp degeneration (> cp cap level). CP degeneration has exponential curve towards higher cp amounts. These rare ambrosias (some illegal) are meant for special occasions or just shred some cps in favor of your group members.
Blessings of meridia
+500% cp degeneration. No effect to cp generation at cp cap or below.
+10% cp generation for below cp cap level group members if you have above cap level cps.
Khajiit delight
+100% cp degeneration. -50% cp generation below cp cap. No cp generation at cp cap.
-5000 max magicka
+150wd
-Illegal substance. Causes bounty if witness sees u.
Daedric ambrosia
+100% cp degeneration. -50% cp generation below cp cap. No cp generation at cp cap.
-5000 max stamina
+150sd
-Illegal substance. Causes bounty if witness sees u.
Sheogorath's aged cheese
+250% cp degeneration. -125% cp generation below cp cap. No cp generation at cp cap.
+100% chance to drop motifs
-Causes drunk like personality
-Illegal substance. Causes bounty if witness sees u.
Skooma in TES 3:
en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Skooma
"In TES 3 Morrowind Skooma increases your speed and strength, while decreasing your intelligence and agility."
"Skooma, in lore, is also known to have long-term effects, including a decrease of literacy and vocabulary."
Original post updated
Edited by Make2k15 on September 25, 2017 11:01AM0 -
SquareSausage✭✭✭✭✭WreckfulAbandon wrote: »No one at or above CP cap should recieve enlightenment. Boom problem solved
nooooo, I need this to level *** ass boring weapon skills when I change a buildBreakfast KingPS4 EU0 -
Darth_Trumpious✭✭✭✭And as far as I know some of the most avid players have already 3000+ cp points.
No offense but I stopped reading after this - I will pay you 1mil golds each for every verified "3000+ cp player" since you know "plenty/some" of the most avid players
Edited by Darth_Trumpious on September 25, 2017 9:46AM1 -
Make2k15✭✭Darth_Trumpious wrote: »
Ok, np. I think I've heard about 2700 cp player months ago. I would think that at least he/she have 3000+ cps by now.0 -
Vimora✭✭✭✭I know it's disturbing but for some weird reason I like the idea. I will still have to say no. Why? I like the idea that somewhere down the line, in the far-too-distant future, there will be an end to my xp grinding.0 -
FoolishHuman✭✭✭✭✭SquareSausage wrote: »WreckfulAbandon wrote: »No one at or above CP cap should recieve enlightenment. Boom problem solved
nooooo, I need this to level *** ass boring weapon skills when I change a build
That's not how enlightenment works.1
