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Warden birds are wrecking the pvp experience.

  • TheDoomsdayMonster
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    thedude33 wrote: »

    This is freaking Comedy Gold!!

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  • FoldingStars13
    Pigeon spam was making the pvp experience more annoying. Now people have learnt to play wardens, it's wardens heals which are making the experience more annoying
  • CaliCrippy714
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    Garden birds are ruining my farming experience
  • Cavedog
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    @Cavedog trying to call for help

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    Now that is a good one. Nicely done!
  • Cavedog
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    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho
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  • ak_pvp
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    Woah, not seen someone say NBs are at top in a long while, not since before the war...
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  • Waffennacht
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    ak_pvp wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    Woah, not seen someone say NBs are at top in a long while, not since before the war...

    Lol, are they top? Maybe, the really well built ones have been cleaning up in duels, @Lexxypwns and his buds do very well too.

    I don't know how they fair against all builds.

    That assassin's will (yes I could slot slab or posture but that seems pretty cheap to do just for one player) is pretty strong.

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  • ak_pvp
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    Walking into a warden healer group like:

    https://youtu.be/bFyKXD03N0k?t=38s

    38s if the link didn't work. No one was hurt. :)
    Edited by ak_pvp on September 23, 2017 7:59PM
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  • agingerinohio
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    Cheesy players are wrecking the PvP experience.
  • Cavedog
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    No, warden birds are not blockable...you take same damage if you block as if you don't. Sure, you can block, but it doesn't make any difference or reduce your damage if you do. ...and you concede that it's not dodgeable....so, we can say we are in agreement that there is no way to mitigate Warden birds.
  • Maikon
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    No, warden birds are not blockable...you take same damage if you block as if you don't. Sure, you can block, but it doesn't make any difference or reduce your damage if you do. ...and you concede that it's not dodgeable....so, we can say we are in agreement that there is no way to mitigate Warden birds.

    No ***, you can only block so much dmg per hit. If you wanna dodge the pigeons, then get the blessed meridian set, and they'll never hit you.

    And saying you take full dmg if you do block, is the dumbest *** I've heard in a long time.
    Edited by Maikon on September 23, 2017 8:45PM
  • Serjustin19
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    Wait, they are "blockable" "mitigated" and" dodgeable"? Hurray! I love it, thank you so much. This is a good advice, especially for a full healer you now. I'm still learning, but this is awesome advice.

    So, it's just like the fire restro ult? We can do same thing?. In that case, no more birds hitting me. While doing, fancy damage at me. But I just need find more, enemy Warden's. :( that quest burns, but thank you for this wonderful support and info! Really, made my day. :smiley:
    Formerly Serjustin19, Save for Forum Of Course.... Fiery_Darkness (PC NA) currently.
  • Waffennacht
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    No, warden birds are not blockable...you take same damage if you block as if you don't. Sure, you can block, but it doesn't make any difference or reduce your damage if you do. ...and you concede that it's not dodgeable....so, we can say we are in agreement that there is no way to mitigate Warden birds.

    What?

    It does reduce the damage by 50%-90%, what are you thinking? With SnB you practically take 0 damage no matter how high the tool tip. @paulsimonps do you know what he's talking about?

    I think you're struggling because you don't have a full grasp on the game's mechanics
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    Wait, they are "blockable" "mitigated" and" dodgeable"? Hurray! I love it, thank you so much. This is a good advice, especially for a full healer you now. I'm still learning, but this is awesome advice.

    So, it's just like the fire restro ult? We can do same thing?. In that case, no more birds hitting me. While doing, fancy damage at me. But I just need find more, enemy Warden's. :( that quest burns, but thank you for this wonderful support and info! Really, made my day. :smiley:

    EoTS cannot be blocked - you can mitigate the Damage via armor, protection, sets, and elemental resistance etc
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  • paulsimonps
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    No, warden birds are not blockable...you take same damage if you block as if you don't. Sure, you can block, but it doesn't make any difference or reduce your damage if you do. ...and you concede that it's not dodgeable....so, we can say we are in agreement that there is no way to mitigate Warden birds.

    What?

    It does reduce the damage by 50%-90%, what are you thinking? With SnB you practically take 0 damage no matter how high the tool tip. @paulsimonps do you know what he's talking about?

    I think you're struggling because you don't have a full grasp on the game's mechanics
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    Wait, they are "blockable" "mitigated" and" dodgeable"? Hurray! I love it, thank you so much. This is a good advice, especially for a full healer you now. I'm still learning, but this is awesome advice.

    So, it's just like the fire restro ult? We can do same thing?. In that case, no more birds hitting me. While doing, fancy damage at me. But I just need find more, enemy Warden's. :( that quest burns, but thank you for this wonderful support and info! Really, made my day. :smiley:

    EoTS cannot be blocked - you can mitigate the Damage via armor, protection, sets, and elemental resistance etc

    I mean I would have to duel someone to test which I can't right now but I think its all BS. From what I know its 100% Blockable and mitigatable.
  • Serjustin19
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    No, warden birds are not blockable...you take same damage if you block as if you don't. Sure, you can block, but it doesn't make any difference or reduce your damage if you do. ...and you concede that it's not dodgeable....so, we can say we are in agreement that there is no way to mitigate Warden birds.

    What?

    It does reduce the damage by 50%-90%, what are you thinking? With SnB you practically take 0 damage no matter how high the tool tip. @paulsimonps do you know what he's talking about?

    I think you're struggling because you don't have a full grasp on the game's mechanics
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    Wait, they are "blockable" "mitigated" and" dodgeable"? Hurray! I love it, thank you so much. This is a good advice, especially for a full healer you now. I'm still learning, but this is awesome advice.

    So, it's just like the fire restro ult? We can do same thing?. In that case, no more birds hitting me. While doing, fancy damage at me. But I just need find more, enemy Warden's. :( that quest burns, but thank you for this wonderful support and info! Really, made my day. :smiley:

    EoTS cannot be blocked - you can mitigate the Damage via armor, protection, sets, and elemental resistance etc
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    No, warden birds are not blockable...you take same damage if you block as if you don't. Sure, you can block, but it doesn't make any difference or reduce your damage if you do. ...and you concede that it's not dodgeable....so, we can say we are in agreement that there is no way to mitigate Warden birds.

    What?

    It does reduce the damage by 50%-90%, what are you thinking? With SnB you practically take 0 damage no matter how high the tool tip. @paulsimonps do you know what he's talking about?

    I think you're struggling because you don't have a full grasp on the game's mechanics
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    Wait, they are "blockable" "mitigated" and" dodgeable"? Hurray! I love it, thank you so much. This is a good advice, especially for a full healer you now. I'm still learning, but this is awesome advice.

    So, it's just like the fire restro ult? We can do same thing?. In that case, no more birds hitting me. While doing, fancy damage at me. But I just need find more, enemy Warden's. :( that quest burns, but thank you for this wonderful support and info! Really, made my day. :smiley:

    EoTS cannot be blocked - you can mitigate the Damage via armor, protection, sets, and elemental resistance etc

    I mean I would have to duel someone to test which I can't right now but I think its all BS. From what I know its 100% Blockable and mitigatable.

    I'm so confused right now. No offense,in regards to blockable and none blocked. :neutral:
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  • Lexxypwns
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    Birds are 100% blockable, like every other non-aoe direct damage ability in the game.
  • paulsimonps
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    No, warden birds are not blockable...you take same damage if you block as if you don't. Sure, you can block, but it doesn't make any difference or reduce your damage if you do. ...and you concede that it's not dodgeable....so, we can say we are in agreement that there is no way to mitigate Warden birds.

    What?

    It does reduce the damage by 50%-90%, what are you thinking? With SnB you practically take 0 damage no matter how high the tool tip. @paulsimonps do you know what he's talking about?

    I think you're struggling because you don't have a full grasp on the game's mechanics
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    Wait, they are "blockable" "mitigated" and" dodgeable"? Hurray! I love it, thank you so much. This is a good advice, especially for a full healer you now. I'm still learning, but this is awesome advice.

    So, it's just like the fire restro ult? We can do same thing?. In that case, no more birds hitting me. While doing, fancy damage at me. But I just need find more, enemy Warden's. :( that quest burns, but thank you for this wonderful support and info! Really, made my day. :smiley:

    EoTS cannot be blocked - you can mitigate the Damage via armor, protection, sets, and elemental resistance etc
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    No, warden birds are not blockable...you take same damage if you block as if you don't. Sure, you can block, but it doesn't make any difference or reduce your damage if you do. ...and you concede that it's not dodgeable....so, we can say we are in agreement that there is no way to mitigate Warden birds.

    What?

    It does reduce the damage by 50%-90%, what are you thinking? With SnB you practically take 0 damage no matter how high the tool tip. @paulsimonps do you know what he's talking about?

    I think you're struggling because you don't have a full grasp on the game's mechanics
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    Wait, they are "blockable" "mitigated" and" dodgeable"? Hurray! I love it, thank you so much. This is a good advice, especially for a full healer you now. I'm still learning, but this is awesome advice.

    So, it's just like the fire restro ult? We can do same thing?. In that case, no more birds hitting me. While doing, fancy damage at me. But I just need find more, enemy Warden's. :( that quest burns, but thank you for this wonderful support and info! Really, made my day. :smiley:

    EoTS cannot be blocked - you can mitigate the Damage via armor, protection, sets, and elemental resistance etc

    I mean I would have to duel someone to test which I can't right now but I think its all BS. From what I know its 100% Blockable and mitigatable.

    I'm so confused right now. No offense,in regards to blockable and none blocked. :neutral:

    Mitigatable=Its damage can be reduced
    Blockable=Its CC will be negated and blocking specific mitigation will apply
    Dodgeable=When Roll Dodging the attack will completely miss and deal no damage or other type of effect

    However, correct me if I am wrong guys, but Major/Minor Evasion will still dodge the Cliffraces, even though they are classed as undodgeable. Now again I might be wrong but I think that is the case.
  • Waffennacht
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    No, warden birds are not blockable...you take same damage if you block as if you don't. Sure, you can block, but it doesn't make any difference or reduce your damage if you do. ...and you concede that it's not dodgeable....so, we can say we are in agreement that there is no way to mitigate Warden birds.

    What?

    It does reduce the damage by 50%-90%, what are you thinking? With SnB you practically take 0 damage no matter how high the tool tip. @paulsimonps do you know what he's talking about?

    I think you're struggling because you don't have a full grasp on the game's mechanics
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    Wait, they are "blockable" "mitigated" and" dodgeable"? Hurray! I love it, thank you so much. This is a good advice, especially for a full healer you now. I'm still learning, but this is awesome advice.

    So, it's just like the fire restro ult? We can do same thing?. In that case, no more birds hitting me. While doing, fancy damage at me. But I just need find more, enemy Warden's. :( that quest burns, but thank you for this wonderful support and info! Really, made my day. :smiley:

    EoTS cannot be blocked - you can mitigate the Damage via armor, protection, sets, and elemental resistance etc
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    No, warden birds are not blockable...you take same damage if you block as if you don't. Sure, you can block, but it doesn't make any difference or reduce your damage if you do. ...and you concede that it's not dodgeable....so, we can say we are in agreement that there is no way to mitigate Warden birds.

    What?

    It does reduce the damage by 50%-90%, what are you thinking? With SnB you practically take 0 damage no matter how high the tool tip. @paulsimonps do you know what he's talking about?

    I think you're struggling because you don't have a full grasp on the game's mechanics
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    Wait, they are "blockable" "mitigated" and" dodgeable"? Hurray! I love it, thank you so much. This is a good advice, especially for a full healer you now. I'm still learning, but this is awesome advice.

    So, it's just like the fire restro ult? We can do same thing?. In that case, no more birds hitting me. While doing, fancy damage at me. But I just need find more, enemy Warden's. :( that quest burns, but thank you for this wonderful support and info! Really, made my day. :smiley:

    EoTS cannot be blocked - you can mitigate the Damage via armor, protection, sets, and elemental resistance etc

    I mean I would have to duel someone to test which I can't right now but I think its all BS. From what I know its 100% Blockable and mitigatable.

    I'm so confused right now. No offense,in regards to blockable and none blocked. :neutral:

    Mitigatable=Its damage can be reduced
    Blockable=Its CC will be negated and blocking specific mitigation will apply
    Dodgeable=When Roll Dodging the attack will completely miss and deal no damage or other type of effect

    However, correct me if I am wrong guys, but Major/Minor Evasion will still dodge the Cliffraces, even though they are classed as undodgeable. Now again I might be wrong but I think that is the case.

    I know blessed Meridia will cause birds to miss. This was in a different thread, but it does seem Evasion works on birds (not 100% sure myself about Evasion) but forced misses will make the birds miss.
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  • Avnr
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    so warden bird>sorc pet?

    if it was not embarrassing animation skill ,i would spawn birds all day
  • paulsimonps
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    Also since I know people like the cliffraces so much. I was looking at making a set up for my Wifes Mag Warden for PvP come next update. The new Axiom set boosts class abilities by 400 spell damage or Weapon Damage, and War Maiden Boosts magic damage abilities by 400 spell damage. You can wear both of those together and make a really powerful Cliffraces, Shalk and Swarm. Want to try it out, seems like a strong combo in PvP. You can even make it heavy armor if you want protection. Or swap war maiden for Automaton and do it with a Stamina Warden.
  • Hutch679
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    I've never seen a bird be dodged. And I've sent out a lot of birds.... CACAWWWWW!
  • Maikon
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    No, warden birds are not blockable...you take same damage if you block as if you don't. Sure, you can block, but it doesn't make any difference or reduce your damage if you do. ...and you concede that it's not dodgeable....so, we can say we are in agreement that there is no way to mitigate Warden birds.

    What?

    It does reduce the damage by 50%-90%, what are you thinking? With SnB you practically take 0 damage no matter how high the tool tip. @paulsimonps do you know what he's talking about?

    I think you're struggling because you don't have a full grasp on the game's mechanics
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    Wait, they are "blockable" "mitigated" and" dodgeable"? Hurray! I love it, thank you so much. This is a good advice, especially for a full healer you now. I'm still learning, but this is awesome advice.

    So, it's just like the fire restro ult? We can do same thing?. In that case, no more birds hitting me. While doing, fancy damage at me. But I just need find more, enemy Warden's. :( that quest burns, but thank you for this wonderful support and info! Really, made my day. :smiley:

    EoTS cannot be blocked - you can mitigate the Damage via armor, protection, sets, and elemental resistance etc
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    No, warden birds are not blockable...you take same damage if you block as if you don't. Sure, you can block, but it doesn't make any difference or reduce your damage if you do. ...and you concede that it's not dodgeable....so, we can say we are in agreement that there is no way to mitigate Warden birds.

    What?

    It does reduce the damage by 50%-90%, what are you thinking? With SnB you practically take 0 damage no matter how high the tool tip. @paulsimonps do you know what he's talking about?

    I think you're struggling because you don't have a full grasp on the game's mechanics
    Cavedog wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Zos please don't close thread, this is the best thread ever.

    Ya, it did turn out a lot more fun than I suspected it would. I'm just hoping ZOS gets the message.....and that message is that Warden is WAY out of balance right now, more so than any other class. You just can't have a long range skill that isn't dodgable. blockable or mitigatable in some way.

    It's blockable... It's mitigated too... It's only not roll dodgeable.

    And Wardens aren't way above everyone else. Them NBs tho

    Wait, they are "blockable" "mitigated" and" dodgeable"? Hurray! I love it, thank you so much. This is a good advice, especially for a full healer you now. I'm still learning, but this is awesome advice.

    So, it's just like the fire restro ult? We can do same thing?. In that case, no more birds hitting me. While doing, fancy damage at me. But I just need find more, enemy Warden's. :( that quest burns, but thank you for this wonderful support and info! Really, made my day. :smiley:

    EoTS cannot be blocked - you can mitigate the Damage via armor, protection, sets, and elemental resistance etc

    I mean I would have to duel someone to test which I can't right now but I think its all BS. From what I know its 100% Blockable and mitigatable.

    I'm so confused right now. No offense,in regards to blockable and none blocked. :neutral:

    Mitigatable=Its damage can be reduced
    Blockable=Its CC will be negated and blocking specific mitigation will apply
    Dodgeable=When Roll Dodging the attack will completely miss and deal no damage or other type of effect

    However, correct me if I am wrong guys, but Major/Minor Evasion will still dodge the Cliffraces, even though they are classed as undodgeable. Now again I might be wrong but I think that is the case.

    I know blessed Meridia will cause birds to miss. This was in a different thread, but it does seem Evasion works on birds (not 100% sure myself about Evasion) but forced misses will make the birds miss.

    Shuffle does work on birds, and if you cloak right before a bird hits you, it will miss also.
  • AAbrigo
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    @Wrobel 's birds are wrecking the PvP experience.
  • Fishstrom
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    Well good news for you bird haters, thanksgiving is coming up. Dig in!
  • Barbaran
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    roll dodge builds are wrecking the pvp experience
    Edited by Barbaran on September 26, 2017 7:19PM
  • brandonv516
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    I suggest after a bird has reached an enemy, maybe a cool down of 2s before using it again?

    :trollface:
  • leepalmer95
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    I suggest after a bird has reached an enemy, maybe a cool down of 2s before using it again?

    :trollface:

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    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • ccmedaddy
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    Ahhh... a remnant from a much simpler time for magwardens 😭😭😭
  • leepalmer95
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    ccmedaddy wrote: »
    Ahhh... a remnant from a much simpler time for magwardens 😭😭😭

    Yes back when i could hit anything stam for 10k crits back to back and they couldn't do anything.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
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