One would think people that always rush to buy those super expansive homes, like the Linchal Grand Manor, will also want to furnish them. But nope, that's not the case. People always complain that the new purple plans are painfully rare. They go for 250-500k or more. So what I did was I bought one that hasn't been seen before by MM or TTC and tried to craft and sell it to see how profitable it is. It's the Dres divider, you know the one you see in every NPC home in Morrowind. One would think it sells like candy.
Turns out I was mistaken, because it takes days to sell just 1 or 2. I am trying on one of the biggest guilds in Rawl'kha at the standard 10k price per piece these purples tend to go for. I will need to sell 60 to break even on the 250k recipe price, which will probably not happen in less than 100+ days.
I really do not get it.
One would think people that always rush to buy those super expansive homes, like the Linchal Grand Manor, will also want to furnish them. But nope, that's not the case. People always complain that the new purple plans are painfully rare. They go for 250-500k or more. So what I did was I bought one that hasn't been seen before by MM or TTC and tried to craft and sell it to see how profitable it is. It's the Dres divider, you know the one you see in every NPC home in Morrowind. One would think it sells like candy.
Turns out I was mistaken, because it takes days to sell just 1 or 2. I am trying on one of the biggest guilds in Rawl'kha at the standard 10k price per piece these purples tend to go for. I will need to sell 60 to break even on the 250k recipe price, which will probably not happen in less than 100+ days.
I really do not get it.
MLGProPlayer wrote: »One would think people that always rush to buy those super expansive homes, like the Linchal Grand Manor, will also want to furnish them. But nope, that's not the case. People always complain that the new purple plans are painfully rare. They go for 250-500k or more. So what I did was I bought one that hasn't been seen before by MM or TTC and tried to craft and sell it to see how profitable it is. It's the Dres divider, you know the one you see in every NPC home in Morrowind. One would think it sells like candy.
Turns out I was mistaken, because it takes days to sell just 1 or 2. I am trying on one of the biggest guilds in Rawl'kha at the standard 10k price per piece these purples tend to go for. I will need to sell 60 to break even on the 250k recipe price, which will probably not happen in less than 100+ days.
I really do not get it.
Yeah, it's a strange market. Most of the actual furniture from those purple recipes are sold at 10-15k, despite their recipes going for 250-500k like you said. And the sales are slow. You need to undercut in order to sell, and even then, it takes 1-2 weeks to clear inventory.
I think it's because most people are already finished with decorating their homes (they bought and decorated a base game home they are happy with). I don't imagine too many people bought Morrowind homes (I did, but only to steal their wells/stables). And I think a lot of people caved and got crown store furniture due to the rarity of some of these blueprints.
By the way, you aren't the first one to sell that divider. I managed to snatch one at a Wayrest trader about a month or two ago for 15k. Haven't seen it before or since though.
Wreuntzylla wrote: »To complicate the picture, there is simply no furniture sink to maintain a market.
Another example just came to mind that happened a few days ago. I found this really awesome-looking Nord carpet recipe that looked like the hide of a bear (head included), so I couldn't resist, I bought it for 100k. Dumb, I know. But I thought it looks unique enough, I can make some money with this.
I crafted one, next thing I know MMgives me something like this: 3 sales in 12 days, 3850g. I was shocked, that's about the mat cost of the item (being purple). So I just spent 100k on something that probably won't give me a cent return.
And I know what you're thinking. Why would crafters deserve profit? It's not like crafing is harder than pressing a button.
- It takes time to find the pretty rare crafting mats at appropiate prices
- It takes space to store them.
- It takes trader space to post them.
- It took time to level up my craft, plus many skill points to make it work.
I don't even know what I want to say, but this is frustrating.
Another example just came to mind that happened a few days ago. I found this really awesome-looking Nord carpet recipe that looked like the hide of a bear (head included), so I couldn't resist, I bought it for 100k. Dumb, I know. But I thought it looks unique enough, I can make some money with this.
I crafted one, next thing I know MMgives me something like this: 3 sales in 12 days, 3850g. I was shocked, that's about the mat cost of the item (being purple). So I just spent 100k on something that probably won't give me a cent return.
And I know what you're thinking. Why would crafters deserve profit? It's not like crafing is harder than pressing a button.
- It takes time to find the pretty rare crafting mats at appropiate prices
- It takes space to store them.
- It takes trader space to post them.
- It took time to level up my craft, plus many skill points to make it work.
I don't even know what I want to say, but this is frustrating.
Well to be fair...this frustration could've easily been avoided. Since you used MM you appear to be on PC, so instead of buying the 2-3 times overpriced recipe you could've
1)looked it up on ttc and find it for much cheaper
2)used same ttc or mm to gauge the actual prices of the furniture itself
3)thought about the supply/demand for a bit. Who would possibly buy a furniture like this? Someone who
a)is actually interested in housing(that's far not everyone)
b)wants this furniture in their house(which is pretty specific though imo kinda cool)
c)doesn't already have it: keep in mind that furniture, unlike, say, tempers is a one-time buy. Sure someone might want a dozen bearrugs for their house but once they place them they will have no need to buy any ever again.
d)is not yet over the furniture limit for their house(which is a slight issue)
e)can't make the furniture themselves(which it's not THAT a rare recipe and a lot of people have already gotten it one way or the other, I think I myself have gotten it from Hlaalu's random furniture boxes before they increased the price)
f)would prefer buying a furniture instead of buying a recipe(personally I also prefer buying a recipe if I can find it for a reasonable price, to buying furniture itself)
...that's quite a long list, isn't it? Add to it that those who do want to buy it may or may not buy it off you since there appear to be plenty on the market, and you'll realize that while you may yet sell it, it definitely won't be fast and it probably won't be very profitable.
The housing system has a lot of issues, but if you want to play the market game you gotta do it informed
I think many in the game (myself included) have this really weird thing about buying furnishings vs just buying designs and making their own.
I don't know why we're like it, but we are.
DMuehlhausen wrote: »The people saying they buy the more expensive plan...this is why characters should be limited to 2 maybe 3 crafting trees.
Sure you could other characters, but restricting it makes sense and helps the market. Most people aren't going to be logging in and off to craft and move items around. They will just by the items they need thus helping the economy.
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When I want some piece of furniture or furnishing item for my home I prefer the recipe, but if I can't find that I will buy the item ... the problem is that I have reached my furnishing limit (even though most rooms in my home are fairly empty).
Honestly, I think if the number of housing items increased you would see an increase in the number of housing items sold.
At least for me, the reason I am not motivated to get another home to decorate is due to the big let down I felt (and still feel) when I wasn't able to finish my "creation."
Not being able to finish my house project would be like starting a game you really really enjoyed, but had to stop playing 2/3 of the way through when your computer ran out of disc space. Deleting existing data is not an option (because you need all the existing data), and unfortunately, no matter what store you went to, absolutely none sold memory upgrades.
ComboBreaker88 wrote: »The biggest problem with crafting is that it's too easy. So people think, I'll just do it myself. Which means that selling crafted items is almost a waste of time. Especially when the market is flooded with crafters
I think many in the game (myself included) have this really weird thing about buying furnishings vs just buying designs and making their own.
I don't know why we're like it, but we are.
Shortly after Morrowind launch I found inside urn recipe for these lamps, I'm selling dozens of them everyday, it's like 90% of my earnings. Maybe your price is too high or your trader in bad spot...?
tbh, as much as I hate buying certain things in the crown store, if I need one fancy item that's really rare and crafters are asking too much for, i'd just spend a few crowns to buy it
the recipes are too rare IMO, and they probably want it that way so people do what I do