ZOS, please stop accidental theft just like you did with accidental murder.

Minyassa · September 2017

I am so tired of losing bounties I cannot afford to keep paying because some dipbleep left stealable loot right in front of an NPC I need to talk to. It's annoying as bleep and I don't want to have to install YET ANOTHER addon to do what you could do in the game. PLEASE. I will take full blame for accidental Ultimates in the marketplace but ffs help prevent me from stealing when I'm not trying to!

ThePrinceOfBargains · September 2017

They should make it so there’s a toggle to only steal while sneaking.

Feanor · September 2017

Isn't there an option to not auto-loot stolen items? I am quite sure there is. If you click E twice...well...

Edit: Oh you meant the items that are lying around at the merchants. Yes, those don't have a prompt like containers have. I agree with you therefore.

RANKK7 · September 2017

This would be needed, it's very annoying to pay bounties or be chased for "crappy steel sword" next to the merchant.

Though if you are on pc there is an addon that do that "no accidental stealing" iirc, that gives also the option the user above mentioned about sneaking, though I fully agree this should be an in-game setting option.

I edit for addon LINK, in case you are pc user and want to get it.

Turelus · September 2017

Feanor wrote: »

Isn't there an option to not auto-loot stolen items? I am quite sure there is. If you click E twice...well...

Only works from containers, static placed items in the world can always be taken regardless of settings.

As I always joke though, this is a staple of the TES series.
I feel not being able to accidentally take something of the counter and get beat up by a guard for it would makes this less of a TES game.

Navoric_Envaldreth · September 2017

Agreed. Think there was an addon for this though? (not 100% sure but i thought there was) ... anyway, it should be an ingame option for sure.

Feanor · September 2017

@Turelus

Yeah I edited. Wasn't thinking of the trash stuff lying around first. I still don't know why this got added at all, the reason for it being a "livelier world" never made sense.

Tasear · September 2017

But...but... immersion

Slick_007 · September 2017

the staff in front of the writ hand in crate in grahtwood. done it more than once.
however, the only reason it happens is because i click e before i get a proper target. if you arent targetting something fully before clicking its your own fault. i dont believe the game needs any changes. just take it a fraction of a second slower and you'll all be fine.

and you cant afford a bounty that small? then you should be flogging the stuff and selling it

ThePrinceOfBargains · September 2017

Slick_007 wrote: »

the staff in front of the writ hand in crate in grahtwood. done it more than once.
however, the only reason it happens is because i click e before i get a proper target. if you arent targetting something fully before clicking its your own fault. i dont believe the game needs any changes. just take it a fraction of a second slower and you'll all be fine.

and you cant afford a bounty that small? then you should be flogging the stuff and selling it

Like hell I will. It takes long enough running through this god awful Guild trade system. Sometimes when I’m running back and forth between them, I don’t notice I’m targeting an owned object. It’s a monotonous process. Bounty is small, but sometimes I have other stolen items and I don’t feel like dealing with all that drama from the guards while I’m forced to participate in this horrible system.

Adding a simple mechanic to prevent stealing while not crouched should be no trouble at all. No the game doesn’t “need” it, but it would make an already-terrible, inconvenient process a little more convenient.

Brrrofski · September 2017

Or just move them from places like guild traders.

Especially that mace by maj in wayrest. I've probably paid 10k for that mace alone....

Bazda · September 2017

thedude33 · September 2017

Agree 100%

So annoying

Tandor · September 2017

TheMaster wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

the staff in front of the writ hand in crate in grahtwood. done it more than once.
however, the only reason it happens is because i click e before i get a proper target. if you arent targetting something fully before clicking its your own fault. i dont believe the game needs any changes. just take it a fraction of a second slower and you'll all be fine.

and you cant afford a bounty that small? then you should be flogging the stuff and selling it

Like hell I will. It takes long enough running through this god awful Guild trade system. Sometimes when I’m running back and forth between them, I don’t notice I’m targeting an owned object. It’s a monotonous process. Bounty is small, but sometimes I have other stolen items and I don’t feel like dealing with all that drama from the guards while I’m forced to participate in this horrible system.

Adding a simple mechanic to prevent stealing while not crouched should be no trouble at all. No the game doesn’t “need” it, but it would make an already-terrible, inconvenient process a little more convenient.

Except that there are plenty of places where you can take stuff without needing to crouch, so you're just removing one person's inconvenience (being caught stealing accidentally) while adding inconvenience to someone else (having to crouch unnecessarily). Any such mechanic would therefore need to be optional with a toggle under settings for those who need it, but really it shouldn't be necessary if you just exercise a little care and know what you're clicking on.

ThePrinceOfBargains · September 2017

Tandor wrote: »

TheMaster wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

the staff in front of the writ hand in crate in grahtwood. done it more than once.
however, the only reason it happens is because i click e before i get a proper target. if you arent targetting something fully before clicking its your own fault. i dont believe the game needs any changes. just take it a fraction of a second slower and you'll all be fine.

and you cant afford a bounty that small? then you should be flogging the stuff and selling it

Like hell I will. It takes long enough running through this god awful Guild trade system. Sometimes when I’m running back and forth between them, I don’t notice I’m targeting an owned object. It’s a monotonous process. Bounty is small, but sometimes I have other stolen items and I don’t feel like dealing with all that drama from the guards while I’m forced to participate in this horrible system.

Adding a simple mechanic to prevent stealing while not crouched should be no trouble at all. No the game doesn’t “need” it, but it would make an already-terrible, inconvenient process a little more convenient.

Except that there are plenty of places where you can take stuff without needing to crouch, so you're just removing one person's inconvenience (being caught stealing accidentally) while adding inconvenience to someone else (having to crouch unnecessarily). Any such mechanic would therefore need to be optional with a toggle under settings for those who need it, but really it shouldn't be necessary if you just exercise a little care and know what you're clicking on.

The mechanic would naturally be one that can be toggled on and off, like the one that prevents attacking innocents. It wasn’t necessary, but convenient for players that didn’t want to get run out of town every time they accidentally left-clicked near an NPC. This should be seen under the same light.

Urza1234 · September 2017

I would love to be able to interact with an area thats still loading and reliably not steal things I dont even know are there.

Saturnana · September 2017

Agreed! There's an add-on for PC users, but it would be more practical to have an option to switch it off in-game.

Slick_007 · September 2017

TheMaster wrote: »

The mechanic would naturally be one that can be toggled on and off, like the one that prevents attacking innocents. It wasn’t necessary, but convenient for players that didn’t want to get run out of town every time they accidentally left-clicked near an NPC. This should be seen under the same light.

major major difference in attacking innocents and taking a random staff. same light? not even the same sun.
take some responsibility for your actions and dare i say, learn to play. then you wont be nicking things in plain sight.
i think ZOS have far better things to spend their time on than dealing with this.

Looeeze · September 2017

I agree. It happens most to be when I visit a guild trader, I just start stealing things when I am trying to shop, lol.

EvilAutoTech · September 2017

Happened to me once. In Vulkhel Guard. I was looking right at the clothier and as I moved my thumb to click on him, he turned and walked away. No bounty. Sold the jack in the outlaw's refuge. True story.

Storymaster · September 2017

Minyassa wrote: »

I am so tired of losing bounties I cannot afford to keep paying because some dipbleep left stealable loot right in front of an NPC I need to talk to. It's annoying as bleep and I don't want to have to install YET ANOTHER addon to do what you could do in the game. PLEASE. I will take full blame for accidental Ultimates in the marketplace but ffs help prevent me from stealing when I'm not trying to!

@Minyassa
Ugh, I feel your pain. Agree on all counts.

TheMaster wrote: »

They should make it so there’s a toggle to only steal while sneaking.

@TheMaster
Great suggestion.
(Unrelated aside - it's too bad you can't make Philip Seymour Hoffman your avatar, given your handle.)

rhapsodious · September 2017

I seem to remember in the singleplayer TES games - at least Skyrim, I can't remember if Morrowind and Oblivion did it - if you stole a low-value item, and were caught by the shopkeeper, they would just attempt to confiscate it. And by low-value I mean like, literally a tomato, or a crappy generic dagger. If you immediately yielded and let them, you wouldn't get a bounty iirc.

I think since most of the items around merchants tend to be zero-value anyway, if they can't just remove the items from the game or add the prompt to confirm you really want to steal that zero-gold voidsteel dagger, they could implement a system like that.

In any case, yes, I'm guilty of trying to use the crafting stations and stealing an item I couldn't care less about, thereby making me an international criminal. ~_~

Storymaster · September 2017

rhapsodious wrote: »

And by low-value I mean like, ... a crappy generic dagger.

@rhapsodious
Hey now, I made that dagger!

rhapsodious · September 2017

Storymaster wrote: »

rhapsodious wrote: »

And by low-value I mean like, ... a crappy generic dagger.

@rhapsodious
Hey now, I made that dagger!

Why are you stealing your own dagger?

rootimus · September 2017

Tasear wrote: »

But...but... immersion

No doubt Gina Bruno will call it a "QoL improvement" and Richard Lambert will say "you know you don't have to talk to the NPC, right?".

Orjix · September 2017

Stop! You have violated the law.

Abeille · September 2017

Classic Elder Scrolls experience.

Nestor · September 2017

Best advice, look at the NPCs heads, and you will steal less. Looking down as we all tend to do, it is easy to nick something you don't want to.

The alternative is to make everything a static again. I don't know if that makes for a better world.

luen79rwb17_ESO · September 2017

This is annoying on the provisioning station at the Inn in Stormheaven. Always click on some damn vegetables hanging there.

Jeremy · September 2017

Minyassa wrote: »

I am so tired of losing bounties I cannot afford to keep paying because some dipbleep left stealable loot right in front of an NPC I need to talk to. It's annoying as bleep and I don't want to have to install YET ANOTHER addon to do what you could do in the game. PLEASE. I will take full blame for accidental Ultimates in the marketplace but ffs help prevent me from stealing when I'm not trying to!

It's annoying no doubt - and almost purposely so because they usually scatter a lot of useless items that are easy to accidentally steal in front of every guild trader and NPC market place.

Part of me actually thinks ZOS is trolling us with it.

What they should do is just give you a chance to cancel the steal like you can when stealing items from inside pots and dressers etc.

coop500 · September 2017

If you are doing it so often you can't afford the bounties, then you need to pay more attention. I do it once in a great while, not a big deal, kind of annoying but not going to break my bank and I don't even farm! I just play the game and sell crap.