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So VMA was basically a colosol waste of time.
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They bring in trait change, then nerf the biggest set of weapons that people actually wanted to change traits on.
How ironic of ZoS, what a waste of people's lives.
To think the amount of people that have done VMA for their PVP builds, the countless, wasted hours.
What a disrespectful change.
How ironic of ZoS, what a waste of people's lives.
To think the amount of people that have done VMA for their PVP builds, the countless, wasted hours.
What a disrespectful change.
I'm a PVE roleplayer concerned about my vampires stage 4 skin tone and keep getting load screens so I came here to distract people from major issues with a rant thread about my characters cosmetic appearance.
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✭✭Colosal? That sounds like some kind of medicine for your colonBeware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!18 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Stovahkiin wrote: »Colosal? That sounds like some kind of medicine for your colon
It's the new bulk brand of high capacity disposable colostomy bags at Costco.
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✭✭✭✭✭@Krayzie ...i'm not an arena participant, but, I've always coveted those weapon drops for pvp...
I think I understand the nerf - weapons no longer buff a players overall stats - just that particular weapons stats...
is that basically it, or, was there something else?Edited by geonsocal on September 18, 2017 11:56PMPVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
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✭tbh you'll survive, you really don't need a weapon/spell damage amp like that to kill people in open world PvP.
If your concern is over dueling well, they all got 'nerfed' then so whatever... unless your worry is not crushing people without them as hard anymore, in which case "hahaha, pfff, cry some more"If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].2 -
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SammyFable✭✭✭✭They were OP BiS weapons for about 2 years now. YEARS. It's not like they introduced them with HotR. At some point we HAVE to move on.5 -
Lord Xanhorn✭✭✭✭SammyFable wrote: »They were OP BiS weapons for about 2 years now. YEARS. It's not like they introduced them with HotR. At some point we HAVE to move on.
This is ESO. There is no moving on. You can literally throw a seducer set on which is the first set I ever crafted and do all the end game content in the game. Gear progression in ESO is a dumpster fire.I'm kind of a small deal!9 -
Krayzie✭✭✭✭✭SammyFable wrote: »They were OP BiS weapons for about 2 years now. YEARS. It's not like they introduced them with HotR. At some point we HAVE to move on.
Why? I didn't know there were set rules like thisI'm a PVE roleplayer concerned about my vampires stage 4 skin tone and keep getting load screens so I came here to distract people from major issues with a rant thread about my characters cosmetic appearance.0 -
Krayzie✭✭✭✭✭Lord Xanhorn wrote: »SammyFable wrote: »They were OP BiS weapons for about 2 years now. YEARS. It's not like they introduced them with HotR. At some point we HAVE to move on.
This is ESO. There is no moving on. You can literally throw a seducer set on which is the first set I ever crafted and do all the end game content in the game. Gear progression in ESO is a dumpster fire.
Pretty sure it's just a make believe rule this particular poster made up on the spot lolI'm a PVE roleplayer concerned about my vampires stage 4 skin tone and keep getting load screens so I came here to distract people from major issues with a rant thread about my characters cosmetic appearance.0 -
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✭I just finally got mine last week. 2 weeks of painful learning through death. 400+ deaths. Feelsbadman.0 -
cpuScientist✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's still good better now even. The 189 spell damage does not equal the do you will now get from the enchants. And if you get infused even better. It's all fine dont freak lol. Wait till the testing is done first.1 -
Krayzie✭✭✭✭✭cpuScientist wrote: »It's still good better now even. The 189 spell damage does not equal the do you will now get from the enchants. And if you get infused even better. It's all fine dont freak lol. Wait till the testing is done first.
Actually it's less now since the 189 or 220 from infused doesn't stack with your back bar'd weapon/spell damage glyph.
There's no reason to run VMA weapons in PVP nowI'm a PVE roleplayer concerned about my vampires stage 4 skin tone and keep getting load screens so I came here to distract people from major issues with a rant thread about my characters cosmetic appearance.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭So now I can run vMA and take as long as I want in each stage and when IF I ever complete it I can just transmute the weapon0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Sooo many people continued to express to stop rerunning it for best in slot. Soooooo many people for a looong time.
You can't say no one told you AND considering the changes over the last 12 months....everyone should've stopped farming there when Morrowind was announced.-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Krayzie✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Sooo many people continued to express to stop rerunning it for best in slot. Soooooo many people for a looong time.
You can't say no one told you AND considering the changes over the last 12 months....everyone should've stopped farming there when Morrowind was announced.
What people? Developers?
I don't see how anyone other than developers expressing this would insinuate people need to stop farming VMA weapons.I'm a PVE roleplayer concerned about my vampires stage 4 skin tone and keep getting load screens so I came here to distract people from major issues with a rant thread about my characters cosmetic appearance.0 -
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✭cpuScientist wrote: »It's still good better now even. The 189 spell damage does not equal the do you will now get from the enchants. And if you get infused even better. It's all fine dont freak lol. Wait till the testing is done first.
Actually it's less now since the 189 or 220 from infused doesn't stack with your back bar'd weapon/spell damage glyph.
There's no reason to run VMA weapons in PVP now
Put oblivion enchant then. Cannot quite stack as high but still burst now...0 -
Krayzie✭✭✭✭✭cpuScientist wrote: »cpuScientist wrote: »It's still good better now even. The 189 spell damage does not equal the do you will now get from the enchants. And if you get infused even better. It's all fine dont freak lol. Wait till the testing is done first.
Actually it's less now since the 189 or 220 from infused doesn't stack with your back bar'd weapon/spell damage glyph.
There's no reason to run VMA weapons in PVP now
Put oblivion enchant then. Cannot quite stack as high but still burst now...
Nah, VMA weapons are dead for PVP, 5 piece with oblivion enchant and weapon damage back barI'm a PVE roleplayer concerned about my vampires stage 4 skin tone and keep getting load screens so I came here to distract people from major issues with a rant thread about my characters cosmetic appearance.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭KochDerDamonen wrote: »tbh you'll survive, you really don't need a weapon/spell damage amp like that to kill people in open world PvP.
If your concern is over dueling well, they all got 'nerfed' then so whatever... unless your worry is not crushing people without them as hard anymore, in which case "hahaha, pfff, cry some more"
Why does no one seem the understand that it's the difficulty of the content that is required to get them. You had a real, tangible edge with those weapons. Now it's useless.4 -
Krayzie✭✭✭✭✭KochDerDamonen wrote: »tbh you'll survive, you really don't need a weapon/spell damage amp like that to kill people in open world PvP.
If your concern is over dueling well, they all got 'nerfed' then so whatever... unless your worry is not crushing people without them as hard anymore, in which case "hahaha, pfff, cry some more"
Why does no one seem the understand that it's the difficulty of the content that is required to get them. You had a real, tangible edge with those weapons. Now it's useless.
Probably because they've never gotten the BiS weapons or simply have never completed itI'm a PVE roleplayer concerned about my vampires stage 4 skin tone and keep getting load screens so I came here to distract people from major issues with a rant thread about my characters cosmetic appearance.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Sooo many people continued to express to stop rerunning it for best in slot. Soooooo many people for a looong time.
You can't say no one told you AND considering the changes over the last 12 months....everyone should've stopped farming there when Morrowind was announced.
What people? Developers?
I don't see how anyone other than developers expressing this would insinuate people need to stop farming VMA weapons.
@Krayzie
Do you watch eso live and follow datamining here and Dev comments as well as patch notes?
Everyone knew MSA, dungeons, trials, etc would have changes but no one knew exactly what.
It was requested to
1. Change the grind
2. Offer tokens or allow trait changes
This shouldn't have been a surprise as VMSA was the highest complaint for grinding as well as traits on all other drop sets.Edited by NewBlacksmurf on September 19, 2017 12:57AM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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FearAndPatching✭✭✭Lord Xanhorn wrote: »SammyFable wrote: »They were OP BiS weapons for about 2 years now. YEARS. It's not like they introduced them with HotR. At some point we HAVE to move on.
This is ESO. There is no moving on. You can literally throw a seducer set on which is the first set I ever crafted and do all the end game content in the game. Gear progression in ESO is a dumpster fire.
There is moving on it's called Destiny 2. Join the wave, life is better when the game your playing has higher than 5 FPS.
Played ESO since first day of release 900+ CP, 500+ Maelstrom runs since it first dropped. Been playing MMOs since WoW first dropped, these balance changes are not good for the game. Long time players can tolerate and adapt to nerfs/buffs but when every 3 months your changing the complete fundamentals of the entire game it's not a good thing. Especially when your changing it to create skillless heavy attack rotations no one enjoys and on top of that show no signs what so ever of fixing or caring to fix trials on console. No one even running VHOF or VMOL on Xbox since release of HoTR it's just a complete lag fest. This is like the 10th time since I've been playing that content has literally been unplayable on console due to game performance and it's well documented across the console community.
Plus use some common sense why is crafted gear even remotely close to on par with VMA, master, trials, dungeon gear. What kind of incentive do you give for players to strive for hard to get gear. Only MMO I've ever played that literally crafted gear that is accessible to everyone is better than gear you need to run something 100+ times to get in the right trait.
Rant over, games dying quickly and many are truly tired of ZOS and the complete ineptitude of showing any signs at all of fixing this game.
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Insandros✭✭✭✭They bring in trait change, then nerf the biggest set of weapons that people actually wanted to change traits on.
How ironic of ZoS, what a waste of people's lives.
To think the amount of people that have done VMA for their PVP builds, the countless, wasted hours.
What a disrespectful change.
No offence man, but if you don't want game changes and evolution, don't play MMOS. As it's always part of the process. And if people wanted to waste their lives, time im vMA that's their problems, tons of threads have been around on the subjets of poor % drop rates etc.. here, and other forums.. and they still did it... so they got to deal with it... if they wanted to run 1 000 times, that'S their problems... i did it 87 times and got tired of it... if i ran it 87 times it's because i wanted to waste my time doing it, even though iV'e read about the drop rates. That's my opinion.2 -
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✭I know this opinion can be a little .. flammable, but you are all crazy for farming that in the first place, it was an insane thing to do considering that RNG.
Maybe they can give some compensation for the players that ran it a lot of times.
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✭cecibergesnrb18_ESO wrote: »I know this opinion can be a little .. flammable, but you are all crazy for farming that in the first place, it was an insane thing to do considering that RNG.
Maybe they can give some compensation for the players that ran it a lot of times.
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Krayzie✭✭✭✭✭They bring in trait change, then nerf the biggest set of weapons that people actually wanted to change traits on.
How ironic of ZoS, what a waste of people's lives.
To think the amount of people that have done VMA for their PVP builds, the countless, wasted hours.
What a disrespectful change.
No offence man, but if you don't want game changes and evolution, don't play MMOS. As it's always part of the process. And if people wanted to waste their lives, time im vMA that's their problems, tons of threads have been around on the subjets of poor % drop rates etc.. here, and other forums.. and they still did it... so they got to deal with it... if they wanted to run 1 000 times, that'S their problems... i did it 87 times and got tired of it... if i ran it 87 times it's because i wanted to waste my time doing it, even though iV'e read about the drop rates. That's my opinion.
That's cool that you're okay with being slapped in the face.
Guess you're right, the only solution to the drop rate was to nerf the weapons so nobody would even want themI'm a PVE roleplayer concerned about my vampires stage 4 skin tone and keep getting load screens so I came here to distract people from major issues with a rant thread about my characters cosmetic appearance.5 -
thedude33✭✭✭✭✭They bring in trait change, then nerf the biggest set of weapons that people actually wanted to change traits on.
How ironic of ZoS, what a waste of people's lives.
To think the amount of people that have done VMA for their PVP builds, the countless, wasted hours.
What a disrespectful change.
ZOS wasting people's lives? Don't sell yourself short. You alone are responsible for all the wasted hours. Give yourself some credit.
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Right now you need 40 - count'em, 40 - transmutation crystals to transmute an item. They drop "occasionally".JamieAubrey wrote: »So now I can run vMA and take as long as I want in each stage and when IF I ever complete it I can just transmute the weaponPC NA, PC EU
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