Need help deciding my mag dk set

Cameron991 · September 2017

I want good burst, sustain and of course tanky(pvp mostly). Now I need help with what sets work really well to achieve this. I was thinking shacklebreaker with spell weave. But I was told that sun with seducer was great also I was told Julianos etc. for those of you who are very successful pvp mag dk help a friend out thank you. I am xbox by the way

Cameron991 · September 2017

Any really talented mag dk?

ThulsaDoomDC · September 2017

Ive been playing mag dk exclusively for 2+ years now. A lot of it has to do with your playstyle and thats the biggest deciding factor with most mDK builds in my opinion. Some people like block cast mdk and some people like mobile burst mDK. Currently im playing a tank mDK but when I'm DPS i like to run Impreg all divines with sun and grothdar. Keep your dots up and the pressure is ridiculous. Also will add that max magicka with recovery to me is more important than 4000 spell damage. I have 41k magicka with 1800 recovery and its amazing.

I'm also Xbox NA
GT RobinSageOWI

Cameron991 · September 2017

ThulsaDoomDC wrote: »

Ive been playing mag dk exclusively for 2+ years now. A lot of it has to do with your playstyle and thats the biggest deciding factor with most mDK builds in my opinion. Some people like block cast mdk and some people like mobile burst mDK. Currently im playing a tank mDK but when I'm DPS i like to run Impreg all divines with sun and grothdar. Keep your dots up and the pressure is ridiculous. Also will add that max magicka with recovery to me is more important than 4000 spell damage. I have 41k magicka with 1800 recovery and its amazing.

I'm also Xbox NA
GT RobinSageOWI

Okay this sounds great I have a few questions, first are you able to tank/survive easy when you play bc I want to survive yet have great damage yanno, next are you running heavy bc I was kid of hoping to run heavy, and lastly does your whip and such do good damage bc I see builds that have great damage and I want that but I just can't decide on sets
@ThulsaDoomDC

Jjitsuboy98 · September 2017

ThulsaDoomDC wrote: »

Ive been playing mag dk exclusively for 2+ years now. A lot of it has to do with your playstyle and thats the biggest deciding factor with most mDK builds in my opinion. Some people like block cast mdk and some people like mobile burst mDK. Currently im playing a tank mDK but when I'm DPS i like to run Impreg all divines with sun and grothdar. Keep your dots up and the pressure is ridiculous. Also will add that max magicka with recovery to me is more important than 4000 spell damage. I have 41k magicka with 1800 recovery and its amazing.

I'm also Xbox NA
GT RobinSageOWI

What's your flame lash tooltip? I'm running 42 k Magicka, 20 k stamina, 26 k health and 2000 mag recovery set up. Light armor with skoria. Only 1900 spell damage though but it still is decent. Harder to kill Templars and shield stackers . Thought about using Sun and seeing if that help on in damage a bit.

Cameron991 · September 2017

Anyone else?

DRXHarbinger · September 2017

You know no set in the game offers all 3 combined. But as a half decent measure. 5 sun+5 Heavy torugs+ infused inferno (i use Prismatic as 90% of cyro is vamp)

Generally you can wind up a heavy and leap and whip / powerlash and kill most people if it all connects.

S+b is for gimps who never kill anything. You need those light and heavy attacks to magdk and actually make half decent AP.

Qbiken · September 2017

A funny setup I came across the other day was the following:

5 Desert Rose (Jewels + 2 Body)
5 Varen´s Legacy (Shield and board on frontbar and backbar + 3 body)
2 Bloodspawn (both in Heavy)

Invest a lot into blockcost reduction (by sturdy trait, enchantments on jewels and CP) and these 3 sets can synergies quite well. Not an expert at magDK but thought I write this to give you some inspiration. The pro with the build is that the gear is fairly easy to get. Varen´s Legacy is craftable (Crafting station found in Gold Coast), Desert rose jewels and body pieces is not that expensive to buy in guildstores. Only farm you need to do is Bloodspawn.

The tricky part with this setup is to get comfortable with using the Varen´s Legacy proc at the right moment.

ak_pvp · September 2017

Sustain: Alteration mastery, desert rose, seducer, syrabane, lich.

Utility/damage: Shackle, tavas, impregnable, Sun, bsw, spinners.

Monster set: Skoria/bloodspawn are both bis.

Combine sustain with utility/damage and a monsterset of choice.

Personally I run a damage set up now with sun/shackle and use witchmothers

Oreyn_Bearclaw · September 2017

You arent going to get a "right" answer here. That said, if you look at all the answers, you will find some similarities. Most builds are going to run a DPS set, a sustain set, and a monster set. If you want to be a tanky DK, I am going to suggest double sword and board, or Sword and board/Destro.

Good DPS sets for a DK: Silks of the sun, Burning Spellweave, Rattlecage, Spinners, Kags/julianos/shacklebreaker (crafted), and there are more.

Do you want nice flat damage and dont like buffing yourself? Rattlecage is great and saves you a skill spot. Do you want to manage a proc for more burst, BSW might be right. Do you want your damage from penetration? maybe spinners is best. Do you want somehting that is easy to craft? Kags, Julianos, or shacklebreaker are all nice. Shacklebreaker is very strong, its kind of a mix between damage and sustain.

Good Sustain sets. Seducer, Black Rose, Desert Rose, Lich, Shacklebreaker, Alteration mastery.

Again, how do you want to manage your sustain? A proc based set like lich is very strong, but it makes planning your gear a little tricky. Seducer is great, especially considering it is craftable which makes weapons a none issue. Both of the roses are strong (not as much as they used to be), but they are a little more situational.

Monster sets: There are many to chose from. Want some burst? Skoria. Want to apply steady pressure? Grothdar. Want Ulti gain and resources? Bloodspawn. Want to stack mitigation? Pirate skeleton.

I would look to see what sets you can most easily combine from these lists and then simply start playing. Figure out where your weaknesses are and adjust accordingly. I would error non the side of being a little tanky at the start. Then you can look to add more damage.

My DK usually sits in Seducer, Bloodspawn, and Rattlecage. My damage is definitley not capped, but I can sustain for days. For dueling/small man, I will often switch to Seducer BSW and Skoria, where I want a little more burst to finish people off. If I am playing in a larger group, then I will often go 5 light and stack even more damage while using at least one destro staff.

Cameron991 · September 2017

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

You arent going to get a "right" answer here. That said, if you look at all the answers, you will find some similarities. Most builds are going to run a DPS set, a sustain set, and a monster set. If you want to be a tanky DK, I am going to suggest double sword and board, or Sword and board/Destro.

Good DPS sets for a DK: Silks of the sun, Burning Spellweave, Rattlecage, Spinners, Kags/julianos/shacklebreaker (crafted), and there are more.

Do you want nice flat damage and dont like buffing yourself? Rattlecage is great and saves you a skill spot. Do you want to manage a proc for more burst, BSW might be right. Do you want your damage from penetration? maybe spinners is best. Do you want somehting that is easy to craft? Kags, Julianos, or shacklebreaker are all nice. Shacklebreaker is very strong, its kind of a mix between damage and sustain.

Good Sustain sets. Seducer, Black Rose, Desert Rose, Lich, Shacklebreaker, Alteration mastery.

Again, how do you want to manage your sustain? A proc based set like lich is very strong, but it makes planning your gear a little tricky. Seducer is great, especially considering it is craftable which makes weapons a none issue. Both of the roses are strong (not as much as they used to be), but they are a little more situational.

Monster sets: There are many to chose from. Want some burst? Skoria. Want to apply steady pressure? Grothdar. Want Ulti gain and resources? Bloodspawn. Want to stack mitigation? Pirate skeleton.

I would look to see what sets you can most easily combine from these lists and then simply start playing. Figure out where your weaknesses are and adjust accordingly. I would error non the side of being a little tanky at the start. Then you can look to add more damage.

My DK usually sits in Seducer, Bloodspawn, and Rattlecage. My damage is definitley not capped, but I can sustain for days. For dueling/small man, I will often switch to Seducer BSW and Skoria, where I want a little more burst to finish people off. If I am playing in a larger group, then I will often go 5 light and stack even more damage while using at least one destro staff.

I have a shacklebreaker set crafted on my mag sorc but it's light, I want to run 5 heavy and 2 light with sword and shield I don't want light, I feel like it would be a waste of resources to craft another shacklebreaker set so in you opinion what 2 sustain and damage sets go well to have great dps and somewhat survivable in 1vx situations I like to solo pvp but I will join a random group here and there never with full group of friends I will be most likely going with skoria @Oreyn_Bearclaw

Jjitsuboy98 · September 2017

Cameron991 wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

You arent going to get a "right" answer here. That said, if you look at all the answers, you will find some similarities. Most builds are going to run a DPS set, a sustain set, and a monster set. If you want to be a tanky DK, I am going to suggest double sword and board, or Sword and board/Destro.

Good DPS sets for a DK: Silks of the sun, Burning Spellweave, Rattlecage, Spinners, Kags/julianos/shacklebreaker (crafted), and there are more.

Do you want nice flat damage and dont like buffing yourself? Rattlecage is great and saves you a skill spot. Do you want to manage a proc for more burst, BSW might be right. Do you want your damage from penetration? maybe spinners is best. Do you want somehting that is easy to craft? Kags, Julianos, or shacklebreaker are all nice. Shacklebreaker is very strong, its kind of a mix between damage and sustain.

Good Sustain sets. Seducer, Black Rose, Desert Rose, Lich, Shacklebreaker, Alteration mastery.

Again, how do you want to manage your sustain? A proc based set like lich is very strong, but it makes planning your gear a little tricky. Seducer is great, especially considering it is craftable which makes weapons a none issue. Both of the roses are strong (not as much as they used to be), but they are a little more situational.

Monster sets: There are many to chose from. Want some burst? Skoria. Want to apply steady pressure? Grothdar. Want Ulti gain and resources? Bloodspawn. Want to stack mitigation? Pirate skeleton.

I would look to see what sets you can most easily combine from these lists and then simply start playing. Figure out where your weaknesses are and adjust accordingly. I would error non the side of being a little tanky at the start. Then you can look to add more damage.

My DK usually sits in Seducer, Bloodspawn, and Rattlecage. My damage is definitley not capped, but I can sustain for days. For dueling/small man, I will often switch to Seducer BSW and Skoria, where I want a little more burst to finish people off. If I am playing in a larger group, then I will often go 5 light and stack even more damage while using at least one destro staff.

I have a shacklebreaker set crafted on my mag sorc but it's light, I want to run 5 heavy and 2 light with sword and shield I don't want light, I feel like it would be a waste of resources to craft another shacklebreaker set so in you opinion what 2 sustain and damage sets go well to have great dps and somewhat survivable in 1vx situations I like to solo pvp but I will join a random group here and there never with full group of friends I will be most likely going with skoria @Oreyn_Bearclaw

Need that light for extra damage. Magicka DKS already do not have an execute or burst like some classes. I run light shackle breaker. I have a heavy set of it as well.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · September 2017

Cameron991 wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

You arent going to get a "right" answer here. That said, if you look at all the answers, you will find some similarities. Most builds are going to run a DPS set, a sustain set, and a monster set. If you want to be a tanky DK, I am going to suggest double sword and board, or Sword and board/Destro.

Good DPS sets for a DK: Silks of the sun, Burning Spellweave, Rattlecage, Spinners, Kags/julianos/shacklebreaker (crafted), and there are more.

Do you want nice flat damage and dont like buffing yourself? Rattlecage is great and saves you a skill spot. Do you want to manage a proc for more burst, BSW might be right. Do you want your damage from penetration? maybe spinners is best. Do you want somehting that is easy to craft? Kags, Julianos, or shacklebreaker are all nice. Shacklebreaker is very strong, its kind of a mix between damage and sustain.

Good Sustain sets. Seducer, Black Rose, Desert Rose, Lich, Shacklebreaker, Alteration mastery.

Again, how do you want to manage your sustain? A proc based set like lich is very strong, but it makes planning your gear a little tricky. Seducer is great, especially considering it is craftable which makes weapons a none issue. Both of the roses are strong (not as much as they used to be), but they are a little more situational.

Monster sets: There are many to chose from. Want some burst? Skoria. Want to apply steady pressure? Grothdar. Want Ulti gain and resources? Bloodspawn. Want to stack mitigation? Pirate skeleton.

I would look to see what sets you can most easily combine from these lists and then simply start playing. Figure out where your weaknesses are and adjust accordingly. I would error non the side of being a little tanky at the start. Then you can look to add more damage.

My DK usually sits in Seducer, Bloodspawn, and Rattlecage. My damage is definitley not capped, but I can sustain for days. For dueling/small man, I will often switch to Seducer BSW and Skoria, where I want a little more burst to finish people off. If I am playing in a larger group, then I will often go 5 light and stack even more damage while using at least one destro staff.

I have a shacklebreaker set crafted on my mag sorc but it's light, I want to run 5 heavy and 2 light with sword and shield I don't want light, I feel like it would be a waste of resources to craft another shacklebreaker set so in you opinion what 2 sustain and damage sets go well to have great dps and somewhat survivable in 1vx situations I like to solo pvp but I will join a random group here and there never with full group of friends I will be most likely going with skoria @Oreyn_Bearclaw

I think seducer is really hard to beat for pure sustain, and it's is craftable, so it you can make weapons and any armor weight you need. The biggest problem with something like lich, is that you need weapons (which are a nightmare to grind) to make it work well. You typically only want the buff on your back bar so you can control the proc, which complicates things.

I have a light armor set of shacklebreaker for my sorc, and a set of heavy seducer for my DK. They both work really well. What I would do is make a set of seducer (Both S/B and three armor pieces, you definitely want heavy chest and legs), and then pair it with one of the three: BSW, Silks of the Sun, Rattlecage.

The first two are light sets so it requires a heavy monster set. Rattlcage is heavy, so you can run a light monster set if needed, or adjust your crafted pieces. Again, these all have their pros and cons. I think rattlecage is the easiest to play because you dont need to run a skill to give you major sorcery, but this will be the lowest damage. Silks of the sun is a little more damage, but you will need to run a skill (or potion) for major sorcery. BSW is perhaps the best, but the damage is proc based. Therefore you need to time both your proc and run your skill for major sorcery.

Silks is nice because you can buy it. Both Rattlecage and BSW require a grind. As you will want the jewelry (preferably in purple) it means a vet grind. Sidebar: Rattlecage is a heavy set so the jewelry is healthy. There are unique jewerly pieces that drop from the first couple of bosses in magic, which is better both for the trait and the grind.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · September 2017

Jjitsuboy98 wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

You arent going to get a "right" answer here. That said, if you look at all the answers, you will find some similarities. Most builds are going to run a DPS set, a sustain set, and a monster set. If you want to be a tanky DK, I am going to suggest double sword and board, or Sword and board/Destro.

Good DPS sets for a DK: Silks of the sun, Burning Spellweave, Rattlecage, Spinners, Kags/julianos/shacklebreaker (crafted), and there are more.

Do you want nice flat damage and dont like buffing yourself? Rattlecage is great and saves you a skill spot. Do you want to manage a proc for more burst, BSW might be right. Do you want your damage from penetration? maybe spinners is best. Do you want somehting that is easy to craft? Kags, Julianos, or shacklebreaker are all nice. Shacklebreaker is very strong, its kind of a mix between damage and sustain.

Good Sustain sets. Seducer, Black Rose, Desert Rose, Lich, Shacklebreaker, Alteration mastery.

Again, how do you want to manage your sustain? A proc based set like lich is very strong, but it makes planning your gear a little tricky. Seducer is great, especially considering it is craftable which makes weapons a none issue. Both of the roses are strong (not as much as they used to be), but they are a little more situational.

Monster sets: There are many to chose from. Want some burst? Skoria. Want to apply steady pressure? Grothdar. Want Ulti gain and resources? Bloodspawn. Want to stack mitigation? Pirate skeleton.

I would look to see what sets you can most easily combine from these lists and then simply start playing. Figure out where your weaknesses are and adjust accordingly. I would error non the side of being a little tanky at the start. Then you can look to add more damage.

My DK usually sits in Seducer, Bloodspawn, and Rattlecage. My damage is definitley not capped, but I can sustain for days. For dueling/small man, I will often switch to Seducer BSW and Skoria, where I want a little more burst to finish people off. If I am playing in a larger group, then I will often go 5 light and stack even more damage while using at least one destro staff.

I have a shacklebreaker set crafted on my mag sorc but it's light, I want to run 5 heavy and 2 light with sword and shield I don't want light, I feel like it would be a waste of resources to craft another shacklebreaker set so in you opinion what 2 sustain and damage sets go well to have great dps and somewhat survivable in 1vx situations I like to solo pvp but I will join a random group here and there never with full group of friends I will be most likely going with skoria @Oreyn_Bearclaw

Need that light for extra damage. Magicka DKS already do not have an execute or burst like some classes. I run light shackle breaker. I have a heavy set of it as well.

If you want to play a tanky mDK, you certainly dont want to run 5 light. Not saying you cant, but it doesnt seem to be the playstyle that OP is after. I absolutely will go 5 light if I know I have good support, but for open world, i am not a fan of 5 light on a mDK.

Cameron991 · September 2017

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

You arent going to get a "right" answer here. That said, if you look at all the answers, you will find some similarities. Most builds are going to run a DPS set, a sustain set, and a monster set. If you want to be a tanky DK, I am going to suggest double sword and board, or Sword and board/Destro.

Good DPS sets for a DK: Silks of the sun, Burning Spellweave, Rattlecage, Spinners, Kags/julianos/shacklebreaker (crafted), and there are more.

Do you want nice flat damage and dont like buffing yourself? Rattlecage is great and saves you a skill spot. Do you want to manage a proc for more burst, BSW might be right. Do you want your damage from penetration? maybe spinners is best. Do you want somehting that is easy to craft? Kags, Julianos, or shacklebreaker are all nice. Shacklebreaker is very strong, its kind of a mix between damage and sustain.

Good Sustain sets. Seducer, Black Rose, Desert Rose, Lich, Shacklebreaker, Alteration mastery.

Again, how do you want to manage your sustain? A proc based set like lich is very strong, but it makes planning your gear a little tricky. Seducer is great, especially considering it is craftable which makes weapons a none issue. Both of the roses are strong (not as much as they used to be), but they are a little more situational.

Monster sets: There are many to chose from. Want some burst? Skoria. Want to apply steady pressure? Grothdar. Want Ulti gain and resources? Bloodspawn. Want to stack mitigation? Pirate skeleton.

I would look to see what sets you can most easily combine from these lists and then simply start playing. Figure out where your weaknesses are and adjust accordingly. I would error non the side of being a little tanky at the start. Then you can look to add more damage.

My DK usually sits in Seducer, Bloodspawn, and Rattlecage. My damage is definitley not capped, but I can sustain for days. For dueling/small man, I will often switch to Seducer BSW and Skoria, where I want a little more burst to finish people off. If I am playing in a larger group, then I will often go 5 light and stack even more damage while using at least one destro staff.

I have a shacklebreaker set crafted on my mag sorc but it's light, I want to run 5 heavy and 2 light with sword and shield I don't want light, I feel like it would be a waste of resources to craft another shacklebreaker set so in you opinion what 2 sustain and damage sets go well to have great dps and somewhat survivable in 1vx situations I like to solo pvp but I will join a random group here and there never with full group of friends I will be most likely going with skoria @Oreyn_Bearclaw

I think seducer is really hard to beat for pure sustain, and it's is craftable, so it you can make weapons and any armor weight you need. The biggest problem with something like lich, is that you need weapons (which are a nightmare to grind) to make it work well. You typically only want the buff on your back bar so you can control the proc, which complicates things.

I have a light armor set of shacklebreaker for my sorc, and a set of heavy seducer for my DK. They both work really well. What I would do is make a set of seducer (Both S/B and three armor pieces, you definitely want heavy chest and legs), and then pair it with one of the three: BSW, Silks of the Sun, Rattlecage.

The first two are light sets so it requires a heavy monster set. Rattlcage is heavy, so you can run a light monster set if needed, or adjust your crafted pieces. Again, these all have their pros and cons. I think rattlecage is the easiest to play because you dont need to run a skill to give you major sorcery, but this will be the lowest damage. Silks of the sun is a little more damage, but you will need to run a skill (or potion) for major sorcery. BSW is perhaps the best, but the damage is proc based. Therefore you need to time both your proc and run your skill for major sorcery.

Silks is nice because you can buy it. Both Rattlecage and BSW require a grind. As you will want the jewelry (preferably in purple) it means a vet grind. Sidebar: Rattlecage is a heavy set so the jewelry is healthy. There are unique jewerly pieces that drop from the first couple of bosses in magic, which is better both for the trait and the grind.

I not really familiar with proc sets I never have any luck with them I'm not sure ik how or when it procs, however I was trying to farm BSW and I haven't had much luck so I was thinking on going with sun but I still am not sure I think I will go with seducer but I'm not 100% sure

Cameron991 · September 2017

Jjitsuboy98 wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

You arent going to get a "right" answer here. That said, if you look at all the answers, you will find some similarities. Most builds are going to run a DPS set, a sustain set, and a monster set. If you want to be a tanky DK, I am going to suggest double sword and board, or Sword and board/Destro.

Good DPS sets for a DK: Silks of the sun, Burning Spellweave, Rattlecage, Spinners, Kags/julianos/shacklebreaker (crafted), and there are more.

Do you want nice flat damage and dont like buffing yourself? Rattlecage is great and saves you a skill spot. Do you want to manage a proc for more burst, BSW might be right. Do you want your damage from penetration? maybe spinners is best. Do you want somehting that is easy to craft? Kags, Julianos, or shacklebreaker are all nice. Shacklebreaker is very strong, its kind of a mix between damage and sustain.

Good Sustain sets. Seducer, Black Rose, Desert Rose, Lich, Shacklebreaker, Alteration mastery.

Again, how do you want to manage your sustain? A proc based set like lich is very strong, but it makes planning your gear a little tricky. Seducer is great, especially considering it is craftable which makes weapons a none issue. Both of the roses are strong (not as much as they used to be), but they are a little more situational.

Monster sets: There are many to chose from. Want some burst? Skoria. Want to apply steady pressure? Grothdar. Want Ulti gain and resources? Bloodspawn. Want to stack mitigation? Pirate skeleton.

I would look to see what sets you can most easily combine from these lists and then simply start playing. Figure out where your weaknesses are and adjust accordingly. I would error non the side of being a little tanky at the start. Then you can look to add more damage.

My DK usually sits in Seducer, Bloodspawn, and Rattlecage. My damage is definitley not capped, but I can sustain for days. For dueling/small man, I will often switch to Seducer BSW and Skoria, where I want a little more burst to finish people off. If I am playing in a larger group, then I will often go 5 light and stack even more damage while using at least one destro staff.

I have a shacklebreaker set crafted on my mag sorc but it's light, I want to run 5 heavy and 2 light with sword and shield I don't want light, I feel like it would be a waste of resources to craft another shacklebreaker set so in you opinion what 2 sustain and damage sets go well to have great dps and somewhat survivable in 1vx situations I like to solo pvp but I will join a random group here and there never with full group of friends I will be most likely going with skoria @Oreyn_Bearclaw

Need that light for extra damage. Magicka DKS already do not have an execute or burst like some classes. I run light shackle breaker. I have a heavy set of it as well.

How's your heavy shacklebreaker set? With tank and dps

Akinos · September 2017

Cameron991 wrote: »

I want good burst, sustain and of course tanky(pvp mostly). Now I need help with what sets work really well to achieve this. I was thinking shacklebreaker with spell weave. But I was told that sun with seducer was great also I was told Julianos etc. for those of you who are very successful pvp mag dk help a friend out thank you. I am xbox by the way

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371158/mighty-chudans-revenge-high-sustain-damage-tanky-magicka-dk-build/p1

Cameron991 · September 2017

Akinos wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

I want good burst, sustain and of course tanky(pvp mostly). Now I need help with what sets work really well to achieve this. I was thinking shacklebreaker with spell weave. But I was told that sun with seducer was great also I was told Julianos etc. for those of you who are very successful pvp mag dk help a friend out thank you. I am xbox by the way

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371158/mighty-chudans-revenge-high-sustain-damage-tanky-magicka-dk-build/p1

@Akinos that looked awesome few questions will it perform as well in heavy bc I really want heavy also I'm not on for poisons so would that build still kill people really fast without them?

Akinos · September 2017

Cameron991 wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

I want good burst, sustain and of course tanky(pvp mostly). Now I need help with what sets work really well to achieve this. I was thinking shacklebreaker with spell weave. But I was told that sun with seducer was great also I was told Julianos etc. for those of you who are very successful pvp mag dk help a friend out thank you. I am xbox by the way

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371158/mighty-chudans-revenge-high-sustain-damage-tanky-magicka-dk-build/p1

@Akinos that looked awesome few questions will it perform as well in heavy bc I really want heavy also I'm not on for poisons so would that build still kill people really fast without them?

Yeah it works in heavy, kill speed is dependent on who you are up against though as usual, but yes you can kill people with a heavy version of that build. I suggest dual wielding on the attack bar if you can also.

Cameron991 · September 2017

Akinos wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

I want good burst, sustain and of course tanky(pvp mostly). Now I need help with what sets work really well to achieve this. I was thinking shacklebreaker with spell weave. But I was told that sun with seducer was great also I was told Julianos etc. for those of you who are very successful pvp mag dk help a friend out thank you. I am xbox by the way

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371158/mighty-chudans-revenge-high-sustain-damage-tanky-magicka-dk-build/p1

@Akinos that looked awesome few questions will it perform as well in heavy bc I really want heavy also I'm not on for poisons so would that build still kill people really fast without them?

Yeah it works in heavy, kill speed is dependent on who you are up against though as usual, but yes you can kill people with a heavy version of that build. I suggest dual wielding on the attack bar if you can also.

Poisons required?

Akinos · September 2017

Cameron991 wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

I want good burst, sustain and of course tanky(pvp mostly). Now I need help with what sets work really well to achieve this. I was thinking shacklebreaker with spell weave. But I was told that sun with seducer was great also I was told Julianos etc. for those of you who are very successful pvp mag dk help a friend out thank you. I am xbox by the way

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371158/mighty-chudans-revenge-high-sustain-damage-tanky-magicka-dk-build/p1

@Akinos that looked awesome few questions will it perform as well in heavy bc I really want heavy also I'm not on for poisons so would that build still kill people really fast without them?

Yeah it works in heavy, kill speed is dependent on who you are up against though as usual, but yes you can kill people with a heavy version of that build. I suggest dual wielding on the attack bar if you can also.

Poisons required?

Nope, not required.

Jjitsuboy98 · September 2017

Cameron991 wrote: »

Jjitsuboy98 wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

You arent going to get a "right" answer here. That said, if you look at all the answers, you will find some similarities. Most builds are going to run a DPS set, a sustain set, and a monster set. If you want to be a tanky DK, I am going to suggest double sword and board, or Sword and board/Destro.

Good DPS sets for a DK: Silks of the sun, Burning Spellweave, Rattlecage, Spinners, Kags/julianos/shacklebreaker (crafted), and there are more.

Do you want nice flat damage and dont like buffing yourself? Rattlecage is great and saves you a skill spot. Do you want to manage a proc for more burst, BSW might be right. Do you want your damage from penetration? maybe spinners is best. Do you want somehting that is easy to craft? Kags, Julianos, or shacklebreaker are all nice. Shacklebreaker is very strong, its kind of a mix between damage and sustain.

Good Sustain sets. Seducer, Black Rose, Desert Rose, Lich, Shacklebreaker, Alteration mastery.

Again, how do you want to manage your sustain? A proc based set like lich is very strong, but it makes planning your gear a little tricky. Seducer is great, especially considering it is craftable which makes weapons a none issue. Both of the roses are strong (not as much as they used to be), but they are a little more situational.

Monster sets: There are many to chose from. Want some burst? Skoria. Want to apply steady pressure? Grothdar. Want Ulti gain and resources? Bloodspawn. Want to stack mitigation? Pirate skeleton.

I would look to see what sets you can most easily combine from these lists and then simply start playing. Figure out where your weaknesses are and adjust accordingly. I would error non the side of being a little tanky at the start. Then you can look to add more damage.

My DK usually sits in Seducer, Bloodspawn, and Rattlecage. My damage is definitley not capped, but I can sustain for days. For dueling/small man, I will often switch to Seducer BSW and Skoria, where I want a little more burst to finish people off. If I am playing in a larger group, then I will often go 5 light and stack even more damage while using at least one destro staff.

I have a shacklebreaker set crafted on my mag sorc but it's light, I want to run 5 heavy and 2 light with sword and shield I don't want light, I feel like it would be a waste of resources to craft another shacklebreaker set so in you opinion what 2 sustain and damage sets go well to have great dps and somewhat survivable in 1vx situations I like to solo pvp but I will join a random group here and there never with full group of friends I will be most likely going with skoria @Oreyn_Bearclaw

Need that light for extra damage. Magicka DKS already do not have an execute or burst like some classes. I run light shackle breaker. I have a heavy set of it as well.

How's your heavy shacklebreaker set? With tank and dps

Sustain and damage are less. Tankiness is not that noticeable except for maybe the extra life. I play argonian DK though lately so my health is good. I mean I have 20 k stamina almost with shackle and if I'm in heavy or light, and outnumbered with no block I die. I really like being able to kill things and utilize mist for mobility. My resist with volatile are like 22500 physical resist and around 25 k spell. That's in light so it's not bad.

Cameron991 · September 2017

Akinos wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

I want good burst, sustain and of course tanky(pvp mostly). Now I need help with what sets work really well to achieve this. I was thinking shacklebreaker with spell weave. But I was told that sun with seducer was great also I was told Julianos etc. for those of you who are very successful pvp mag dk help a friend out thank you. I am xbox by the way

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371158/mighty-chudans-revenge-high-sustain-damage-tanky-magicka-dk-build/p1

@Akinos that looked awesome few questions will it perform as well in heavy bc I really want heavy also I'm not on for poisons so would that build still kill people really fast without them?

Yeah it works in heavy, kill speed is dependent on who you are up against though as usual, but yes you can kill people with a heavy version of that build. I suggest dual wielding on the attack bar if you can also.

Poisons required?

Nope, not required.

Sorry I got another question bc I was looking at your build stats and such and that looks super good I was curious is that buffed?

Akinos · September 2017

Cameron991 wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

I want good burst, sustain and of course tanky(pvp mostly). Now I need help with what sets work really well to achieve this. I was thinking shacklebreaker with spell weave. But I was told that sun with seducer was great also I was told Julianos etc. for those of you who are very successful pvp mag dk help a friend out thank you. I am xbox by the way

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371158/mighty-chudans-revenge-high-sustain-damage-tanky-magicka-dk-build/p1

@Akinos that looked awesome few questions will it perform as well in heavy bc I really want heavy also I'm not on for poisons so would that build still kill people really fast without them?

Yeah it works in heavy, kill speed is dependent on who you are up against though as usual, but yes you can kill people with a heavy version of that build. I suggest dual wielding on the attack bar if you can also.

Poisons required?

Nope, not required.

Sorry I got another question bc I was looking at your build stats and such and that looks super good I was curious is that buffed?

Not buffed.

Gorrest · September 2017

There there is me who forgoes normal setups and runs one shot builds.

This is buffed minus Berserk Weapon Enchant. So I have this tooltip pretty much that high 100% of the time.

Cameron991 · September 2017

Gorrest wrote: »

There there is me who forgoes normal setups and runs one shot builds.

This is buffed minus Berserk Weapon Enchant. So I have this tooltip pretty much that high 100% of the time.

Woah!!! Are you tanky and sustained??? @Gorrest

Gorrest · September 2017

Cameron991 wrote: »

Gorrest wrote: »

There there is me who forgoes normal setups and runs one shot builds.

This is buffed minus Berserk Weapon Enchant. So I have this tooltip pretty much that high 100% of the time.

Woah!!! Are you tanky and sustained??? @Gorrest

Sustained can be easily done if you manage your resources and fairly tanking, but you can get more takininess by running 1 Chudan/1 Pirate instead of what I am running. Due note its not a 1H/S builds its a destro build similar how a Mag Sorc will play.

Cameron991 · September 2017

Gorrest wrote: »

Cameron991 wrote: »

Gorrest wrote: »

There there is me who forgoes normal setups and runs one shot builds.

This is buffed minus Berserk Weapon Enchant. So I have this tooltip pretty much that high 100% of the time.

Woah!!! Are you tanky and sustained??? @Gorrest

Sustained can be easily done if you manage your resources and fairly tanking, but you can get more takininess by running 1 Chudan/1 Pirate instead of what I am running. Due note its not a 1H/S builds its a destro build similar how a Mag Sorc will play.

Sounds quite interesting

sneaky_t · September 2017

5 seducer, 5 bloodthorn, 2 skoria or bloodspawn, 5 heavy 1 medium 1 light, double sword and board. Nice balanced setup

Cameron991 · September 2017

sneaky_t wrote: »

5 seducer, 5 bloodthorn, 2 skoria or bloodspawn, 5 heavy 1 medium 1 light, double sword and board. Nice balanced setup

Can you 1v1 and kill someone easily and survive 1vx situations @sneaky_t

DRXHarbinger · September 2017

Cameron991 wrote: »

sneaky_t wrote: »

5 seducer, 5 bloodthorn, 2 skoria or bloodspawn, 5 heavy 1 medium 1 light, double sword and board. Nice balanced setup

Can you 1v1 and kill someone easily and survive 1vx situations @sneaky_t

Tbh it depends entirely on you and the other person. Simply put a better player will rek you regardless of what you are wearing.

But OT Seducer and bloodthorn are perfectly fine for all heavy armor Magdk'ing.