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What ruins pvp for you?

  • Trygdaer
    Trygdaer
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    1. Sorcs
    2. CP

    Sorcs: Way to overpowered.

    CP: If you're like a 275 Nightblade you won't have a chance to actually kill anyone.
  • WillhelmBlack
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    I'm genuinely surprised to see people saying lack of build diversity. I think this game is top notch for that! Lots of options and skills to choose from nowadays.

    Can anyone go into specifics on why you think there is a lack of choice? I feel absolutely spoilt for choice and fly through armour sets and mats trying new things and I've made 3 fantastic PvP builds for Magblade, Templar and Mag DK.

    You must not look at Kodi's Youtube and think 'this is the only build I must run on my Magplar, it is totally optimised'. It may not be for you or your group. In fact, the gear choice, mundus, everything could be far from what you need to do a similar job.
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  • Reverb
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    Game performance. The fights that should theoretically be the most fun, bring a 50/50 chance that my bars won't swap, that a gap closer snare will prevent me from using any skills (even after dying and respawning), that I won't be able to use doors, that my siege won't aim, that my ultimate won't fire until the 5th time I mash the button, that a load screen will hit mid-combat, etc etc.

    But in fairness I will say that it's much better than it used to be. It's rare in cyrodiil that my client crashes or totally locks up these days. It used to reliably happen several times a night. Performance is still the worst thing about ESO PvP for me, but at least it's not so bad anymore that I question why I still play the game.
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  • Belegnole
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    The people is what ruins PvP.
  • vamp_emily
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    Overall I think PvP is fun but a few things that I don' t like is.

    1. Players not defending keeps ( Groups not responding to UA ).
    2. Players not putting up sieges when attacking keeps.
    3. Players that think AvAvA is 1v1.
    4. Uneven population. I think 1 bar vs 3 bars isn't really fair for the under populated side.

    I love zerg vs zerg, small group fights and i understand players have their own reasons for playing the way they do but besides Uneven pop, what ruins my fun is some of the players.

    Edited by vamp_emily on September 17, 2017 4:29PM

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  • Eirella
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    Or all of the above..?
    Trygdaer wrote: »
    1. Sorcs
    2. CP

    Sorcs: Way to overpowered.

    CP: If you're like a 275 Nightblade you won't have a chance to actually kill anyone.

    People STILL think sorcs are overpowered!? Really?
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  • WillhelmBlack
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    Eirella wrote: »
    Trygdaer wrote: »
    1. Sorcs
    2. CP

    Sorcs: Way to overpowered.

    CP: If you're like a 275 Nightblade you won't have a chance to actually kill anyone.

    People STILL think sorcs are overpowered!? Really?

    Yeah. What makes them not over powered? What is Sorcs weakness?
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  • Master_Kas
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    inbalances between classes. Stamina NB and sorcerers are 90% of the top 10 players in EU servers... When 2 classes dominate so much, you now their is something wrong

    Corrected.

    But I agree

    Edit: #Nerf Sorc and all forms of stamina attacks
    Highly exploitable animation cancelling.

    Lmao exploitable, ZOS said it's intended and not an exploit, not even a bug. Learn what an exploit is :)

    Lmao ZOS said it's intended. @Master_Kas please learn what trying to cover your ass is since your a noob :D Cuz no matter what ZoS says, they stated the first time animation cancelling came around that it was NOT intended and they will look into it, found out, they cannot fix it due to having to either redesign the ENTIRE combat system, add a GCD to EVERYTHING, or make attacks that are cancelled do a portion to no damage, all three options being very bad for the game. So instead they decided to try and cover their arse and hope people will forget what they first stated on animation cancelling, that its an exploit, a very MACRO-ABLE exploit.

    Please dont tell me to learn anything, seeing as I played mmos 3x longer than you or anyone else from the WoW generation. Animation cancelling is what mostly killed DCUO, and its gonna continue to kill things for this game here as its causing more and more players to quit.

    Didn't read this reply, well it's a part of the game and they haven't said its going anywhere. So it's not a exploit to use animationcancel. Otherwise people would get banned for it.

    And about the WoW-generation, I don't really care how long you've played MMO's as it brings nothing to this discussion really. Have a good day sir :trollface:
    Edited by Master_Kas on September 17, 2017 5:43PM
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  • altemriel
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    being a noon in PVP, which makes PVP a mount riding simulator for this one.... :(

    it goes like this:

    - port to cyrodiil
    - LFG, find a group
    - ride to crown
    - ride ride ride ride
    - one-shotted by ganker
    - ride ride ride ride
    - two-shotted by sorc
    - ride ride ride ride
    - port to keep
    - ride ride ride ride
    - one-shotted by ganker
    - ride ride ride ride
    - finds a friendly zerg, run with it a bit, find an enemy zerg, first shot: one-shotted
    - ride ride ride ride....
    Edited by altemriel on September 17, 2017 6:17PM
  • usmcjdking
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    A dedicated Retreating Manuevers spammer for large groups.

    This skill needs to be nerfed into the ground. The idea people can literally just run around with perfect mobility at no cost to themselves while doing damage (because it was activated before rapids applied) is absolutely ***. Solo players or small groups have absolutely 0 impact versus large groups because they simply cannot isolate anyone for no other fact than the larger group moves faster with a larger source of immunities (which makes no sense) than the solo/small group.

    Also, how are AOEs LESS effective versus the more people you target? Why does a 6 man group going up vs and 18 man group already have it's potential AOE damage literally cut in half?
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  • JumpAllOver
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  • k9mouse
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    Gankers
  • Biro123
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    Other (type reason please)
    Events, and the queues they bring.

    People stacking the winning side (why? The rewards are crap and you don't get any decent fights with uneven sides)
    Minalan owes me a beer.

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  • Cinbri
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    Lags is even worse than zergs, tho it bound.
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Zergs
    That 2 year old necro tho..
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  • Alpheu5
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    That 2 year old necro tho..

    I'm a little disappointed it took this long for someone to point it out.
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    Don't incorporate bugs into your builds, and you won't have [an] issue.
  • Tonturri
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    Extremely low build diversity, grind, lag, loading screens, horse simulator, removal of some nice things (using Nature's Embrace on the warden bear pet. Pls? Can have it back?), too much importance placed on racial passives.
  • CaliCrippy714
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    Oh man, where do i start? 1. I normally run solo but when i do decide to join a group i often get the "Usual long Loading screen". 2. Gap closiing into a loading screen. 3. Broken gap closers. 3.double and triple cc. Unable to mount even though I've been out of combat for minutes. 4. Poisons 5. Not being able to use pots on the fly, gotta stop pressing buttons for it to work. Theres plenty more issues with pvp i just cant think off the top of my head atm. I would like to add that im on ps4 so most of you might not run into some of thiese issues.
  • CyrusArya
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    Zergs
    First of all, this poll is 2 years old so it is insightful to see how some things have dramatically improved, i.e. Build diversity and gear grind. So good on you ZOS for that.

    That being said, somethings never change. The zergs are still awful and honestly it's worse now than ever before. There was a time when alongside the zergs you at least had many small groups and roaming solo players. Now everyone is just balled up and fighting at the same exact junctions. We need incentives to spread out and play the rest of the map ZOS!
    Yeah. What makes them not over powered? What is Sorcs weakness?

    Can't answer your first question because it's logically inconsistent. Burden of proof is on the claimant, you'd have to first establish sorc is op, which it isn't. Second one can be answered tho. Sorcs weaknesses are that it has the single most counterable damage scheme in the game, and that shields are the worst scaling defensive mechanic when outnumbered or focused. Sorc is completely one dimensional, in contrast to something like a warden that can utilize heals, shields/dodge and blocking at the same time. A magicka sorc being hard focused is the single most vulnerable spec in the game bar none- provided the opponents can stay on the Sorc.

    The counterable offense makes sorc sub optimal 1v1, the poor scaling defenses make it sub optimal 1vX. In raid groups it is outperformed as a dps spec by a bomblade. Really the only thing sorc does best is drop negates and execute at range with fury.
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Lag . I can handle everything else .
  • magicsprout
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    altemriel wrote: »
    being a noon in PVP, which makes PVP a mount riding simulator for this one.... :(

    it goes like this:

    - port to cyrodiil
    - LFG, find a group
    - ride to crown
    - ride ride ride ride
    - one-shotted by ganker
    - ride ride ride ride
    - two-shotted by sorc
    - ride ride ride ride
    - port to keep
    - ride ride ride ride
    - one-shotted by ganker
    - ride ride ride ride
    - finds a friendly zerg, run with it a bit, find an enemy zerg, first shot: one-shotted
    - ride ride ride ride....

    This......
  • Joy_Division
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    Eirella wrote: »
    Trygdaer wrote: »
    1. Sorcs
    2. CP

    Sorcs: Way to overpowered.

    CP: If you're like a 275 Nightblade you won't have a chance to actually kill anyone.

    People STILL think sorcs are overpowered!? Really?

    Yeah. What makes them not over powered? What is Sorcs weakness?


    Use defensive posture and 90% of sorcs won't be able to kill you. No other class has such predictable burst is easy to defend against.

    While not necessary a class weakness, the overconfidence on many sorc players is absolutely something else that is exploitable. They love their 7 divines/infused thinking their shields will save them against crits. No other class is as easy to kill by CC + burst.

    As for what ruins PvP for me: the apathy of ZoS.
    Edited by Joy_Division on September 17, 2017 9:07PM
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
  • FakeFox
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    Destrorage destroyed PvP in my opinion. It was a lot more fun before this ****** was introduced.
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  • Minyassa
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    Rude people.
  • Adernath
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    Reverb wrote: »
    Game performance. The fights that should theoretically be the most fun, bring a 50/50 chance that my bars won't swap, that a gap closer snare will prevent me from using any skills (even after dying and respawning), that I won't be able to use doors, that my siege won't aim, that my ultimate won't fire until the 5th time I mash the button, that a load screen will hit mid-combat, etc etc.

    But in fairness I will say that it's much better than it used to be. It's rare in cyrodiil that my client crashes or totally locks up these days. It used to reliably happen several times a night. Performance is still the worst thing about ESO PvP for me, but at least it's not so bad anymore that I question why I still play the game.

    So true!
  • SugaComa
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    For me it's two things

    Imbalance ... Either we outnumber them in which case cyrodil should just be a pve zone or they out number us and you just can't do anything other than ride die respawn repeat

    Second is length of campaigns ... I think 4 hour campaigns where after the map resets after completion
  • Telel
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    Derpwits in my own faction.

    Specifically the ones who fail on purpose no matter how you try to give them humble khajiit wisdom. Espccially the ones who know nothing of how to do simple things but accuse people of being Cyberpunk style hackers.
    Character: Telel
    Class: Night Blade-Werewolf-viking-ninja-catgirl-mallet wielder
    Past times: Refusing to go full magika spec, hitting things with a big hammer, sniping, and speaking in khajiit
    Also: Gelel the Derp Knight, Altsel the streaker, and Filafel the temp temp.

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  • Tucker3711
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  • Serjustin19
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    1. Having No Fun

    2. I Believe I'm A Traitor, To The Alliance I served longest (AD)

    3. Others Talking About Traitors in PvP Zone (1 and 2 plays part of 3)

    4. Others refusing to revive others (however lag is acceptable and other try again)

    5.Former Comrade teabag you, then pretend revive and teabag some more. Continues while 1 DC laugh and other Comrade watch. (One I Used To Admire) <-My YouTube video

    6. My Signature

    Edited by Serjustin19 on September 18, 2017 1:46AM
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  • Autumnhart
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    Loading screens and known but never-fixed bugs. Battles with 25fps.
    Shadow hide you.
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