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You Guys Could Nerf Soul Assault Anytime Zos!
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Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭mmolegends44 wrote: »@Mystrius_Archaion no you can't .. only way you can stay alive is if your a mag sorc shield stacking or being a tanky fool in general people abuses soul assault and it needs a nerf and needs to be interruptable.
Well...
It is affected by damage reduction and battle spirit.
It does leave them unable to do anything else such as heal themselves for 3-4 seconds.
It takes 3-4 seconds to do all that damage, so easy enough to heal through on top of damage reduction.
It can only be done once in a while due to ultimate needed.
Even in pve it only does about 40k damage and my character has over 20k health with an easy at least 25% damage reduction even without champion passives. Reduce that 40k to 20k in pvp with battle spirit and now you can survive it relatively easily.
Or is this another one of those "people abuse it by being coordinated and 3 of them using it on me at once" threads, while this can be done with a lot of other skills that are actually spammable?
It seems fine to me.0 -
DDuke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »mmolegends44 wrote: »@Mystrius_Archaion no you can't .. only way you can stay alive is if your a mag sorc shield stacking or being a tanky fool in general people abuses soul assault and it needs a nerf and needs to be interruptable.
Well...
It is affected by damage reduction and battle spirit.
It does leave them unable to do anything else such as heal themselves for 3-4 seconds.
It takes 3-4 seconds to do all that damage, so easy enough to heal through on top of damage reduction.
It can only be done once in a while due to ultimate needed.
Even in pve it only does about 40k damage and my character has over 20k health with an easy at least 25% damage reduction even without champion passives. Reduce that 40k to 20k in pvp with battle spirit and now you can survive it relatively easily.
Or is this another one of those "people abuse it by being coordinated and 3 of them using it on me at once" threads, while this can be done with a lot of other skills that are actually spammable?
It seems fine to me.
You get 100k+ (50k+ in PvP) tooltip easily on Soul Assault with a proper build.
A 5/1/1 medium armor user (19% spell resistance) with 7 impen takes an average 5k damage/second from that through block & Vigor. This means you take 15k damage minimum, no matter what you do (well, apart from cloak which can cut off around 5k worth of ticks if you're able to cloak).
I'd really like to see how you survive that when you add in the damage from DoTs (DK), Curse/Wrath (Sorc), Bird+Shalks (Warden), Sun Fire+Purifying Light & Unstable Core (Templar) or Crippling Grasp+Detonation (Magicka NB).
There's no way to survive that when it's properly combo'd with the other skills.
Press button & watch non S&B medium armor user die. Much balance, such wow.Edited by DDuke on September 16, 2017 10:38PM1 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »mmolegends44 wrote: »@Mystrius_Archaion no you can't .. only way you can stay alive is if your a mag sorc shield stacking or being a tanky fool in general people abuses soul assault and it needs a nerf and needs to be interruptable.
Well...
It is affected by damage reduction and battle spirit.
It does leave them unable to do anything else such as heal themselves for 3-4 seconds.
It takes 3-4 seconds to do all that damage, so easy enough to heal through on top of damage reduction.
It can only be done once in a while due to ultimate needed.
Even in pve it only does about 40k damage and my character has over 20k health with an easy at least 25% damage reduction even without champion passives. Reduce that 40k to 20k in pvp with battle spirit and now you can survive it relatively easily.
Or is this another one of those "people abuse it by being coordinated and 3 of them using it on me at once" threads, while this can be done with a lot of other skills that are actually spammable?
It seems fine to me.
You get 100k+ (50k+ in PvP) tooltip easily on Soul Assault with a proper build.
A 5/1/1 medium armor user (19% spell resistance) with 7 impen takes an average 5k damage/second from that through block & Vigor. This means you take 15k damage minimum, no matter what you do (well, apart from cloak which can cut off around 5k worth of ticks if you're able to cloak).
I'd really like to see how you survive that when you add in the damage from DoTs (DK), Curse/Wrath (Sorc), Bird+Shalks (Warden), Sun Fire+Purifying Light & Unstable Core (Templar) or Crippling Grasp+Detonation (Magicka NB).
There's no way to survive that when it's properly combo'd with the other skills.
Press button & watch non S&B medium armor user die. Much balance, such wow.
Now that proc sets got nerfed I don't feel right doin those combos (didn't feel right back on my Sorc with Curse unblockable)
You say 15k through block, well curse adds like another 8k to that because they're blocking and unable to counter Curse
Maybe interruptible in general would be fair. I mean proc sets did get nerfed... (For the most part, skoria meteor showers are everywhere now lol)Edited by Waffennacht on September 16, 2017 10:57PM1 -
Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »mmolegends44 wrote: »@Mystrius_Archaion no you can't .. only way you can stay alive is if your a mag sorc shield stacking or being a tanky fool in general people abuses soul assault and it needs a nerf and needs to be interruptable.
Well...
It is affected by damage reduction and battle spirit.
It does leave them unable to do anything else such as heal themselves for 3-4 seconds.
It takes 3-4 seconds to do all that damage, so easy enough to heal through on top of damage reduction.
It can only be done once in a while due to ultimate needed.
Even in pve it only does about 40k damage and my character has over 20k health with an easy at least 25% damage reduction even without champion passives. Reduce that 40k to 20k in pvp with battle spirit and now you can survive it relatively easily.
Or is this another one of those "people abuse it by being coordinated and 3 of them using it on me at once" threads, while this can be done with a lot of other skills that are actually spammable?
It seems fine to me.
You get 100k+ (50k+ in PvP) tooltip easily on Soul Assault with a proper build.
Does Oblivion's Foe affect it?! Otherwise, how the hell do you get that high?
I'm betting if they are doing that high then they're squishy as hell and you can charge them and beat them down, or your buddy will avenge you. If you're pvping alone then you really are asking for it. (Yes, I usually am alone when entering Cyrodiil for any reason and am asking for it by doing so, sadly.)0 -
DDuke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »mmolegends44 wrote: »@Mystrius_Archaion no you can't .. only way you can stay alive is if your a mag sorc shield stacking or being a tanky fool in general people abuses soul assault and it needs a nerf and needs to be interruptable.
Well...
It is affected by damage reduction and battle spirit.
It does leave them unable to do anything else such as heal themselves for 3-4 seconds.
It takes 3-4 seconds to do all that damage, so easy enough to heal through on top of damage reduction.
It can only be done once in a while due to ultimate needed.
Even in pve it only does about 40k damage and my character has over 20k health with an easy at least 25% damage reduction even without champion passives. Reduce that 40k to 20k in pvp with battle spirit and now you can survive it relatively easily.
Or is this another one of those "people abuse it by being coordinated and 3 of them using it on me at once" threads, while this can be done with a lot of other skills that are actually spammable?
It seems fine to me.
You get 100k+ (50k+ in PvP) tooltip easily on Soul Assault with a proper build.
Does Oblivion's Foe affect it?! Otherwise, how the hell do you get that high?
I'm betting if they are doing that high then they're squishy as hell and you can charge them and beat them down, or your buddy will avenge you. If you're pvping alone then you really are asking for it. (Yes, I usually am alone when entering Cyrodiil for any reason and am asking for it by doing so, sadly.)
Easy for any build running Alchemist or just otherwise lots of spell dmg - I believe someone even posted a picture of 116k tooltip above.
Even your usual Shadowrend Necropotence duel sorc (far from squishy...) gets a 90k buffed tooltip - and that skill scales significantly worse with max magicka than it does with spell dmg.0 -
Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »mmolegends44 wrote: »@Mystrius_Archaion no you can't .. only way you can stay alive is if your a mag sorc shield stacking or being a tanky fool in general people abuses soul assault and it needs a nerf and needs to be interruptable.
Well...
It is affected by damage reduction and battle spirit.
It does leave them unable to do anything else such as heal themselves for 3-4 seconds.
It takes 3-4 seconds to do all that damage, so easy enough to heal through on top of damage reduction.
It can only be done once in a while due to ultimate needed.
Even in pve it only does about 40k damage and my character has over 20k health with an easy at least 25% damage reduction even without champion passives. Reduce that 40k to 20k in pvp with battle spirit and now you can survive it relatively easily.
Or is this another one of those "people abuse it by being coordinated and 3 of them using it on me at once" threads, while this can be done with a lot of other skills that are actually spammable?
It seems fine to me.
You get 100k+ (50k+ in PvP) tooltip easily on Soul Assault with a proper build.
Does Oblivion's Foe affect it?! Otherwise, how the hell do you get that high?
I'm betting if they are doing that high then they're squishy as hell and you can charge them and beat them down, or your buddy will avenge you. If you're pvping alone then you really are asking for it. (Yes, I usually am alone when entering Cyrodiil for any reason and am asking for it by doing so, sadly.)
Easy for any build running Alchemist or just otherwise lots of spell dmg - I believe someone even posted a picture of 116k tooltip above.
Even your usual Shadowrend Necropotence duel sorc (far from squishy...) gets a 90k buffed tooltip - and that skill scales significantly worse with max magicka than it does with spell dmg.
Oh boy! I wish I had noticed that skill earlier than I did. I should be using that as my boss burner in pve. I just have to build differently since it's only about 40300 on my templar with the 4 second morph. I may have to just be happy with that for the hybrid tankiness I have to work still.0