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Think that its an dlc adds to the frequency its puged, many are in groups there not all have the dlc so they do the first dungeons in group and pug the dlc one.heartburnkid wrote: »Hah, add CoS to that. I kid you not it pop's every second random queue for me on my healer and tank, can get through it easy enough even with pugs but just sick of the repetition. =P
Been seeing that a ton too.
And thanks for actually reading the thread unlike the 'l2p moron' from above. It is not about difficulty, it's about repetition.
Edited by zaria on September 12, 2017 1:48PMGrinding just make you go in circles.
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✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »We really need to just quarentine off the DLC dungeons from random queueing.
Or at least have an option to take them off. So the carebears may finally quit moaning. I personally would like to keep them in the random queue though. As would most others who aren't terrible at the game.1 -
CrisXD✭✭✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »Lol. Word of advice: If you're having issue with WGT, don't even go near the door of the other DLC dungeons, and don't even mutter the name of the two in HoTR.
I know this thread is about WGT popping up so much for 'random dungeon' which I also think is so annoying especially when you're on your 3rd run in a row
but I have to agree with this. WGT is a laugh compared the two in HoTR... PS4 EU
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OC_Justice✭✭✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »Lol. Word of advice: If you're having issue with WGT, don't even go near the door of the other DLC dungeons, and don't even mutter the name of the two in HoTR.
Gonna have to agree with this. Everything in there hits so freaking hard.
So shouldn't there be like 2 or 3 levels of dungeons. Normal is easy enough on all, but when it comes to vet they are on different tiers. You can not compare CoH to ICP or WGT. Compare those to RoM, or CoS and you go up a little in difficulty.
Now add the new ones and the difficulty goes up a little more.
With CP points beginning to rise and the spread in CP increasing, shouldn't lower CP not be involved into the rotation of the DLC?
I ran a pug for 1st pledge a few days ago. We blew through it no death HM speed run, at that point we new we needed to stay together to finish the next. ICP was the DLC pledge. When we had done the "normal" vet dungeons I messaged "ICP?" in group chat. We were in agreement that we had the strength to do it and by it I mean HM. Well as we were zoning in we got the message one had to leave. Well crud, we had to pug one as we couldn't find help. We had to kick the next 2 players immediately because of CP. CP50 or CP90 will not have the hitting power or ability to stay up in that dungeon and we wanted HM.
My point is these dungeons need to have CP minimum. If it is normal then who cares. At the very minimum there should be warnings or strong suggestions on what level of CP might be able to complete each dungeon. And I for one would not mind allowing others to uncheck these for a rotation of random vet. A while back I was against that idea, but the more I play the more I see the need to not waste others times on such difficult content. Once a certain CP is reached these should not be able to be checked for removal of Random Vet rotation.
Just my thoughts on the DLC difficulty.
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Vet WGT is easy OP, you would have loved it when it first came out , way back in the mists of time, then it was actually hard, even with a good group lol.
it was actually easier... because when it came out you could synergize shards in the middle of the rotating lightning and clear the lightning.
edit - on kena fightEdited by Saint314Louis1985 on September 12, 2017 2:32PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭heartburnkid wrote: »I never said it was a difficulty issue. I am just sick of running it so much. It's not hard. Just pops WAY too much.
I agree with you. Sometimes I just want a quick dungeon run, no muss no fuss. Have 20 minutes before dinner is ready and just want a way to kill some time. I only get Vet DLC and Vet City of Ash II with my Randoms. It has gotten to the point that I just que for the Normal Dungeons.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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heartburnkid✭✭✭lol, sorry, i love spell power cure too much, no need to delete, just get betterMerlin13KAGL wrote: »Lol. Word of advice: If you're having issue with WGT, don't even go near the door of the other DLC dungeons, and don't even mutter the name of the two in HoTR.
Please learn to read. I never once said it was a difficulty issue. It just ques way too much. I would like them to look into the 'random' aspect and see if it is working as intended, because from where I sit it looks broken.
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✭✭✭I'd love to play it, but *** always boot me because I havent reached cp 160 yet with my main atm. I did that thing with 3 lvl 15s before no problem. I hate leet ppl.0 -
OC_Justice✭✭✭heartburnkid wrote: »lol, sorry, i love spell power cure too much, no need to delete, just get betterMerlin13KAGL wrote: »Lol. Word of advice: If you're having issue with WGT, don't even go near the door of the other DLC dungeons, and don't even mutter the name of the two in HoTR.
Please learn to read. I never once said it was a difficulty issue. It just ques way too much. I would like them to look into the 'random' aspect and see if it is working as intended, because from where I sit it looks broken.
Take difficulty into consideration, this is why it is on your rotation a lot. A lot of groups want to complete it and get half way through and then bail. Sometimes it is hard to fill or someone gets into that group of CP60s and says "NOPE!" and bails.
Dungeon Finder to you..."Random vet you say?" "Here you go WGT needs a filler."
If I go random vet it is always the more difficult dungeons I get placed in and typically it is as a replacement. So now I do not do random Vet.1 -
heartburnkid✭✭✭OC_Justice wrote: »heartburnkid wrote: »lol, sorry, i love spell power cure too much, no need to delete, just get betterMerlin13KAGL wrote: »Lol. Word of advice: If you're having issue with WGT, don't even go near the door of the other DLC dungeons, and don't even mutter the name of the two in HoTR.
Please learn to read. I never once said it was a difficulty issue. It just ques way too much. I would like them to look into the 'random' aspect and see if it is working as intended, because from where I sit it looks broken.
Take difficulty into consideration, this is why it is on your rotation a lot. A lot of groups want to complete it and get half way through and then bail. Sometimes it is hard to fill or someone gets into that group of CP60s and says "NOPE!" and bails.
Dungeon Finder to you..."Random vet you say?" "Here you go WGT needs a filler."
If I go random vet it is always the more difficult dungeons I get placed in and typically it is as a replacement. So now I do not do random Vet.
I didn't think of it that way. Maybe some people aren't good enough to complete it so everyone else has to struggle. Maybe it should be nerfed for the people that suck at the game can complete it and stop it from random popping so much.0 -
OC_Justice✭✭✭I'd love to play it, but *** always boot me because I havent reached cp 160 yet with my main atm. I did that thing with 3 lvl 15s before no problem. I hate leet ppl.
Normal to VET on all DLCs is not the same as normal to VET on other dungeons. The difficulty is greater and the mechanics are a pain. Teamwork has to be near flawless or you will fail. Once your CP is high enough, you are allowed a little error, but below 160 you better have it down to an art and NORMAL will in no way prepare you for the change in difficulty.Edited by OC_Justice on September 12, 2017 3:31PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭I have a better idea: delete all the nerfs over the last 2 years and return it to the way it was at launch.Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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GallantGuardian✭✭✭✭I love this dungeon and icp some of the best storywise in the game I get it's hard for people and that atronach fight is tough I tank it and my group has this strategy that sucks for me but we haven't found a better way
We basically let me die someone picks me up while someone else aggros boss I get up grab aggro again til fights done ... we complete it every time tho
Sadly there isn't enough people in my guild for me to run this all
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✭✭✭OC_Justice wrote: »I'd love to play it, but *** always boot me because I havent reached cp 160 yet with my main atm. I did that thing with 3 lvl 15s before no problem. I hate leet ppl.
Normal to VET on all DLCs is not the same as normal to VET on other dungeons. The difficulty is greater and the mechanics are a pain. Teamwork has to be near flawless or you will fail. Once your CP is high enough, you are allowed a little error, but below 160 you better have it down to an art and NORMAL will in no way prepare you for the change in difficulty.
I wasnt talking about vet , I was talking about normal. I get booted from WGT all the time because im not top lvl yet, its stupid. The dungeon is not difficult on normal at all. People are just leet nobs.0 -
OC_Justice✭✭✭OC_Justice wrote: »I'd love to play it, but *** always boot me because I havent reached cp 160 yet with my main atm. I did that thing with 3 lvl 15s before no problem. I hate leet ppl.
Normal to VET on all DLCs is not the same as normal to VET on other dungeons. The difficulty is greater and the mechanics are a pain. Teamwork has to be near flawless or you will fail. Once your CP is high enough, you are allowed a little error, but below 160 you better have it down to an art and NORMAL will in no way prepare you for the change in difficulty.
I wasnt talking about vet , I was talking about normal. I get booted from WGT all the time because im not top lvl yet, its stupid. The dungeon is not difficult on normal at all. People are just leet nobs.
Well that does stink then.2 -
heartburnkid✭✭✭OC_Justice wrote: »I'd love to play it, but *** always boot me because I havent reached cp 160 yet with my main atm. I did that thing with 3 lvl 15s before no problem. I hate leet ppl.
Normal to VET on all DLCs is not the same as normal to VET on other dungeons. The difficulty is greater and the mechanics are a pain. Teamwork has to be near flawless or you will fail. Once your CP is high enough, you are allowed a little error, but below 160 you better have it down to an art and NORMAL will in no way prepare you for the change in difficulty.
I wasnt talking about vet , I was talking about normal. I get booted from WGT all the time because im not top lvl yet, its stupid. The dungeon is not difficult on normal at all. People are just leet nobs.
Was in a group with a 660, level 30 dps and level 17 tank. Vote to kick came up and boom the 17 is gone (I voted no but majority rules) another person in level 10 and boom, he is gone. I asked why they keep stalling the instance (ICP) and he said he didn't want to carry noobs. I left the group after that.
The game has become insta-kick unless you have a decent amount of cp. I finally hit 660 and don't get griefed but man it must suck to try and level and run stuff now. Without 'noobs' the game dies. We need to support growth.0 -
OC_Justice✭✭✭heartburnkid wrote: »OC_Justice wrote: »I'd love to play it, but *** always boot me because I havent reached cp 160 yet with my main atm. I did that thing with 3 lvl 15s before no problem. I hate leet ppl.
Normal to VET on all DLCs is not the same as normal to VET on other dungeons. The difficulty is greater and the mechanics are a pain. Teamwork has to be near flawless or you will fail. Once your CP is high enough, you are allowed a little error, but below 160 you better have it down to an art and NORMAL will in no way prepare you for the change in difficulty.
I wasnt talking about vet , I was talking about normal. I get booted from WGT all the time because im not top lvl yet, its stupid. The dungeon is not difficult on normal at all. People are just leet nobs.
Was in a group with a 660, level 30 dps and level 17 tank. Vote to kick came up and boom the 17 is gone (I voted no but majority rules) another person in level 10 and boom, he is gone. I asked why they keep stalling the instance (ICP) and he said he didn't want to carry noobs. I left the group after that.
The game has become insta-kick unless you have a decent amount of cp. I finally hit 660 and don't get griefed but man it must suck to try and level and run stuff now. Without 'noobs' the game dies. We need to support growth.
Agree. Popped into a random normal was CoS. 1st thing I read was please don't leave. They hadn't even started. I laughed and asked why I would leave. Their response was their CP wasn't high enough for a normal. We barreled through it really fast. They knew how to play and was a great group. I say people that demand high or any CP for any normal dungeon are not LEET, but weak.2 -
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✭Reading thru this thread leaves me shaking my head, the number of folks who just can't wait to wave their epeen around spouting l2p is nauseating. Trying to have a discussion here with these types is a futile effort, probably the same types that don't actually listen when having a conversation, they're just waiting for their turn to talk.
On topic, totally agree with you TC, I am so sick of this dungeon popping up when queuing for the daily random I've just stopped doing the daily random. They really need to add in an option to turn them off as I'm seriously considering canceling my sub just to not have to run this dungeon for the umpteenth time.There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
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✭OP's rage thread 1/10
forum users mis-understanding the reason behind rage thread 10/10Edited by bebynnag on September 12, 2017 6:38PM3 -
subtlezeroub17_ESO✭✭✭✭Tbh, WGT is pretty easy. I actually have more PUG issues with vCoA2 . WGT is easy peasy once you get on the microphone and just explain the mechanics.
vCoA2 is different. Mechanics aside, you need 2 average DPS for many of the bosses and too many randoms can't even do that. Granted, an end game vet geared and traited toon could probably make up for another bad dps but a mid-core player can't.Edited by subtlezeroub17_ESO on September 12, 2017 7:12PM0 -
heartburnkid✭✭✭puffytheslayer wrote: »OP's rage thread 1/10
forum users mis-understanding the reason behind rage thread 10/10Reading thru this thread leaves me shaking my head, the number of folks who just can't wait to wave their epeen around spouting l2p is nauseating. Trying to have a discussion here with these types is a futile effort, probably the same types that don't actually listen when having a conversation, they're just waiting for their turn to talk.
On topic, totally agree with you TC, I am so sick of this dungeon popping up when queuing for the daily random I've just stopped doing the daily random. They really need to add in an option to turn them off as I'm seriously considering canceling my sub just to not have to run this dungeon for the umpteenth time.
Thanks for actually reading and understanding lol. I'd hate to see someone cancel a sub over this though. Maybe the team can see this and fix the que system. Dc universe online has a good one in place even though the game sucks. They should ideally be by level and become unlocked when you hit certain milestones. That would fix some of the problems. Or let people use filters.0 -
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✭Yep, the worst part of being an ESO plus member is having the DLC dungeons show up so much in random dungeon finder. Totally agree with having an option to check a box or something.
Edit: also no one is reading the thread before commenting I seeEdited by grannas211 on September 12, 2017 7:57PM0 -
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✭The lack of reading comprehension in this thread truly saddens me...
It does seem to be a dlc dungeon more often than not, though I think I get prison more often than wgt myself.
Personally I don't mind the dungeon so it doesn't bother me.1 -
Blackleopardex✭✭✭✭Lucky you that always get WGT, I only get fungal grotto... -.- Once you get fungal it's hard to get rid of...Edited by Blackleopardex on September 12, 2017 8:11PM6 NB: Tank, Healer, Mag/Stam PVE&PVP.
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