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Damage Shields - What determines the size?

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Darlgon
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My google / forum search foo is failing me, so I need some help.

Guildies are telling me the shield strength size for all damage shields is based off your magicka pool. I swore ZoS said it was based off your HP.

Anyone have the links for one way or the other?
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  • paulsimonps
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    It depends on the shield. Some are Magicka some are Health.
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  • paulsimonps
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    Sorcs Conjured Ward and its Morphs are magicka based.
    Light Armors Annulment and its Morphs are magicka based.

    DK's Obsidian Shield and its morphs are Health based.
    Undaunteds Bone shield and its morphs are health based.

    Other shields like the one from Brawler in the 2 Handed skill line is based on Weapon damage and Stamina.

    There are more shields than that but those are some very common shields.
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  • MisterBigglesworth
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    DK's Hardened Armor health based.
    Templar's Sun Shield and morphs is health based.
    Steadfast Ward (resto staff) is magicka + missing health based
    Edited by MisterBigglesworth on July 14, 2017 2:40AM
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  • Izaki
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    Dragonknight's Hardened Armor (morph of Spiked Armor) Shield is health based.

    Shields granted by armor sets don't scale with any stats, they are a set value that can be augmented by the Bastion CP star.

    I think we've done all the shields in the game, no?
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  • Koolio
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    IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »
    Dragonknight's Hardened Armor (morph of Spiked Armor) Shield is health based.

    Shields granted by armor sets don't scale with any stats, they are a set value that can be augmented by the Bastion CP star.

    I think we've done all the shields in the game, no?



    Enchant?
    Edited by Koolio on July 14, 2017 3:02AM
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    MisterBigglesworth wrote: »
    DK's Hardened Armor health based.
    Templar's Sun Shield and morphs is health based.
    Steadfast Ward (resto staff) is magicka + missing health based


    Max magic and spell damage. Only ward in the game that is not just health or max magic.
  • Sordidfairytale
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    Ferocious Leap 100%(?) max health

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    Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
    MisterBigglesworth wrote: »
    DK's Hardened Armor health based.
    Templar's Sun Shield and morphs is health based.
    Steadfast Ward (resto staff) is magicka + missing health based


    Max magic and spell damage. Only ward in the game that is not just health or max magic.

    Must've missed that in the user manual, right after the chapter about animation cancelling. :blush:
    Sordidfairytale wrote: »
    Ferocious Leap 100%(?) max health

    Oh, and the Magma Sell synergy! (HP)
    Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.
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    MisterBigglesworth wrote: »
    Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
    MisterBigglesworth wrote: »
    DK's Hardened Armor health based.
    Templar's Sun Shield and morphs is health based.
    Steadfast Ward (resto staff) is magicka + missing health based


    Max magic and spell damage. Only ward in the game that is not just health or max magic.

    Must've missed that in the user manual, right after the chapter about animation cancelling. :blush:
    Sordidfairytale wrote: »
    Ferocious Leap 100%(?) max health

    Oh, and the Magma Sell synergy! (HP)

    Back in the day when it was even less intuitive (e.g., weapon damage buffing magicka weapon skills) I mapped it all out in an excel file for my guild.

    Not long after that they changed everything....
  • Darlgon
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    Thanks for the answers.. I guess they want to add variety to how they are made.

    The tool tip for Harness Magicka reads like it has no physical damage protection, just magicka. Is this true? Are the others likewise only magicka or physical?
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    Where is the end game? You just played it.
    Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
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  • Reorx_Holybeard
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    Darlgon wrote: »
    Thanks for the answers.. I guess they want to add variety to how they are made.

    The tool tip for Harness Magicka reads like it has no physical damage protection, just magicka. Is this true? Are the others likewise only magicka or physical?

    It used to be only Magicka but they changed Harness a few major updates ago to be a regular damage shield. However, the magicka return portion of it only works against magicka attacks.
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  • Sordidfairytale
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    For completeness, Brands of Imperium while not a "skill" damage shield, appears to be only improved by gear quality or Bastion.
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    Sordidfairytale wrote: »
    For completeness, Brands of Imperium while not a "skill" damage shield, appears to be only improved by gear quality or Bastion.

    Any damage shield from a Armor set scale only from Quality and level as well as points into the Bastion CP. This includes Imperium, Lunar Bastion, Combat Physician and others.
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    IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »
    Dragonknight's Hardened Armor (morph of Spiked Armor) Shield is health based.

    Shields granted by armor sets don't scale with any stats, they are a set value that can be augmented by the Bastion CP star.

    I think we've done all the shields in the game, no?

    Does the Bastion CP star affect shields from skills as well? Just wanted to confirm :smiley:
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    Yamenstein wrote: »
    IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »
    Dragonknight's Hardened Armor (morph of Spiked Armor) Shield is health based.

    Shields granted by armor sets don't scale with any stats, they are a set value that can be augmented by the Bastion CP star.

    I think we've done all the shields in the game, no?

    Does the Bastion CP star affect shields from skills as well? Just wanted to confirm :smiley:

    Yes
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  • Tasear
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    A few more tidbits

    * Dragon Knights only have health based shields (there's 4)
    * Negate Magic ult is considered a shield and is effected by basition cp
    * Undaunted Bone Shield is effected by basition for yourself and shield you to give to allies

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    Tasear wrote: »
    A few more tidbits

    * Dragon Knights only have health based shields (there's 4)
    * Negate Magic ult is considered a shield and is effected by basition cp
    * Undaunted Bone Shield is effected by basition for yourself and shield you to give to allies

    @Tasear
    How and in what way? The base part of the ultimate does no damage and does no healing. Do you mean the healing morph gets increased by it?
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    paulsimonps wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    A few more tidbits

    * Dragon Knights only have health based shields (there's 4)
    * Negate Magic ult is considered a shield and is effected by basition cp
    * Undaunted Bone Shield is effected by basition for yourself and shield you to give to allies

    @Tasear
    How and in what way? The base part of the ultimate does no damage and does no healing. Do you mean the healing morph gets increased by it?

    Yes the healing morph does from what I have seen.
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    Tasear wrote: »
    paulsimonps wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    A few more tidbits

    * Dragon Knights only have health based shields (there's 4)
    * Negate Magic ult is considered a shield and is effected by basition cp
    * Undaunted Bone Shield is effected by basition for yourself and shield you to give to allies

    @Tasear
    How and in what way? The base part of the ultimate does no damage and does no healing. Do you mean the healing morph gets increased by it?

    Yes the healing morph does from what I have seen.

    Not sure if its a bug on live, but tested it on PTS and it didn't work.
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  • Tasear
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    paulsimonps wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    paulsimonps wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    A few more tidbits

    * Dragon Knights only have health based shields (there's 4)
    * Negate Magic ult is considered a shield and is effected by basition cp
    * Undaunted Bone Shield is effected by basition for yourself and shield you to give to allies

    @Tasear
    How and in what way? The base part of the ultimate does no damage and does no healing. Do you mean the healing morph gets increased by it?

    Yes the healing morph does from what I have seen.

    Not sure if its a bug on live, but tested it on PTS and it didn't work.

    Thanks for info, maybe it was a bug. It's been awhile since I tried.
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    Barrier - Alliance War ultimate that gives a 40k+ shield. Scales with either magicka or stamina, whichever is higher.
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