Tigeracer wrote: »

How on Earth is your recovery so high with those sets? I'm guessing you are a Bosmer?

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

That's a solid setup honestly. I'm not big on the senche set but I know people make it work.

I currently run 5 bone pirate 5 spriggans 1 kena 1 velidreth. Sitting at over 34k stamina, 3.9k weapon damage when enchant procs, 9k penetration, over 3k Stam recovery with a pot, 1.3 mag recovery but only 40% crit since I use immovable speed pots instead of crit pots.

I was thinking of making a build with nightmothers embrace. 1 stamina bonus, 1 stam recovery bonus, harder to find when hidden, reduced sneak cost, and 2 weapon damage bonuses. Second set I was thinking eternal hunt. Just trying to switch things up a bit.

Those are my suggestions for something new.

Jjitsuboy98 wrote: »

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

That's a solid setup honestly. I'm not big on the senche set but I know people make it work.

I currently run 5 bone pirate 5 spriggans 1 kena 1 velidreth. Sitting at over 34k stamina, 3.9k weapon damage when enchant procs, 9k penetration, over 3k Stam recovery with a pot, 1.3 mag recovery but only 40% crit since I use immovable speed pots instead of crit pots.

I was thinking of making a build with nightmothers embrace. 1 stamina bonus, 1 stam recovery bonus, harder to find when hidden, reduced sneak cost, and 2 weapon damage bonuses. Second set I was thinking eternal hunt. Just trying to switch things up a bit.

Those are my suggestions for something new.

I have tried Spriggans with bone pirate and then switched to bone pirate agility because I love using the bow. Then I switched to shackle breaker agility selenes because the extra sustain got magicka was well worth it.

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

Jjitsuboy98 wrote: »

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

That's a solid setup honestly. I'm not big on the senche set but I know people make it work.

I currently run 5 bone pirate 5 spriggans 1 kena 1 velidreth. Sitting at over 34k stamina, 3.9k weapon damage when enchant procs, 9k penetration, over 3k Stam recovery with a pot, 1.3 mag recovery but only 40% crit since I use immovable speed pots instead of crit pots.

I was thinking of making a build with nightmothers embrace. 1 stamina bonus, 1 stam recovery bonus, harder to find when hidden, reduced sneak cost, and 2 weapon damage bonuses. Second set I was thinking eternal hunt. Just trying to switch things up a bit.

Those are my suggestions for something new.

I have tried Spriggans with bone pirate and then switched to bone pirate agility because I love using the bow. Then I switched to shackle breaker agility selenes because the extra sustain got magicka was well worth it.

I use magicka and stamina recovery drink so my sustain is really good and goes well with one pirate. I thought about switching to shacklebreaker but over all the only way to have comparable damage would be to use something like dubious camoran throne for the extra stamina but I'd lose a ton of magicka recovery even with the little bit shacklebreaker gives.

I'd rather go bone pirate/agility if I had too. I used to run Selenes but ever since they increased the time it takes to do damage it so easy to dodge.

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

No way you get 3.5k recovery. I'm a wood elf and even using willows path I only get a little over 2k in medium armor.

Well he has a ss with stats but he is in IC when the pic was taken buffed up with a potion popped. Also looks like he just finished capturing one of the zones so I think he gets those pvp buffs to stats from the passives. Also by the very low health recovery he is a vamp so he gets 10% more mag and stam recovery.

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

Jjitsuboy98 wrote: »

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

That's a solid setup honestly. I'm not big on the senche set but I know people make it work.

I currently run 5 bone pirate 5 spriggans 1 kena 1 velidreth. Sitting at over 34k stamina, 3.9k weapon damage when enchant procs, 9k penetration, over 3k Stam recovery with a pot, 1.3 mag recovery but only 40% crit since I use immovable speed pots instead of crit pots.

I was thinking of making a build with nightmothers embrace. 1 stamina bonus, 1 stam recovery bonus, harder to find when hidden, reduced sneak cost, and 2 weapon damage bonuses. Second set I was thinking eternal hunt. Just trying to switch things up a bit.

Those are my suggestions for something new.

I have tried Spriggans with bone pirate and then switched to bone pirate agility because I love using the bow. Then I switched to shackle breaker agility selenes because the extra sustain got magicka was well worth it.

I use magicka and stamina recovery drink so my sustain is really good and goes well with one pirate. I thought about switching to shacklebreaker but over all the only way to have comparable damage would be to use something like dubious camoran throne for the extra stamina but I'd lose a ton of magicka recovery even with the little bit shacklebreaker gives.

I'd rather go bone pirate/agility if I had too. I used to run Selenes but ever since they increased the time it takes to do damage it so easy to dodge.

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

I'm not saying Selenes is useless I just know it's extremely rare I'm hit by it and I consider myself pretty good in PvP. If I can dodge it, better players than me will also easily dodge it. I don't need it to kill a nub because they are easy enough to burst down without it. Going kena/veli gives more damage or even going 2 blood spawn for ult generation and a bit of extra protection.

3.5 stam recovery is doable for sure. Wood elf, Bone pirate, blue drink, serpent, continuous attack, and pot up. I hit 3.3 without a pot. I bet if I actually looked at my stats after using a pot it would be over 3.5. Honestly that's just way more recovery than needed so I plan on going with the warrior mundus instead. I'd use dubious but it only gives my tool tip on SA an increase of like 300ish damage and my magicka recovery is horrendous. At the moment I can cloak and shadow image all day with the blue drink.

My problem with bone pirate and agility is this. Compare all 5 piece bonuses for spriggans, 1096 x 2, 129 WD, 4K penetration to 1400 stamina, 186 WD. You end up with around 800 less stamina, only 50ish more WD but lose out on 4K penetration. Obviously certain modifiers change this like major brutality or undaunted passive but over all unless you have a VMA weapon for that extra WD it still isn't enough to match that penetration and only a tad bit more WD to go towards slightly better heals and slightly better against shields, and in this case I just put less into penetration and more into shattering blows to offset this. I'd also say using night mothers embrace instead of spriggans would still be better than agility because you get more weapon damage, a little less stamina but more recovery allowing you to easily use warrior over serpent for even more WD and a spiffy reduction to sneak cost.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

I'm not saying Selenes is useless I just know it's extremely rare I'm hit by it and I consider myself pretty good in PvP. If I can dodge it, better players than me will also easily dodge it. I don't need it to kill a nub because they are easy enough to burst down without it. Going kena/veli gives more damage or even going 2 blood spawn for ult generation and a bit of extra protection.

3.5 stam recovery is doable for sure. Wood elf, Bone pirate, blue drink, serpent, continuous attack, and pot up. I hit 3.3 without a pot. I bet if I actually looked at my stats after using a pot it would be over 3.5. Honestly that's just way more recovery than needed so I plan on going with the warrior mundus instead. I'd use dubious but it only gives my tool tip on SA an increase of like 300ish damage and my magicka recovery is horrendous. At the moment I can cloak and shadow image all day with the blue drink.

My problem with bone pirate and agility is this. Compare all 5 piece bonuses for spriggans, 1096 x 2, 129 WD, 4K penetration to 1400 stamina, 186 WD. You end up with around 800 less stamina, only 50ish more WD but lose out on 4K penetration. Obviously certain modifiers change this like major brutality or undaunted passive but over all unless you have a VMA weapon for that extra WD it still isn't enough to match that penetration and only a tad bit more WD to go towards slightly better heals and slightly better against shields, and in this case I just put less into penetration and more into shattering blows to offset this. I'd also say using night mothers embrace instead of spriggans would still be better than agility because you get more weapon damage, a little less stamina but more recovery allowing you to easily use warrior over serpent for even more WD and a spiffy reduction to sneak cost.

Spriggan vs BP you're not mentioning the much better sustain of BP.

Vapirko wrote: »

No way you get 3.5k recovery. I'm a wood elf and even using willows path I only get a little over 2k in medium armor.

runningtings wrote: »

i like it, am going to try this out myself, impressive stats.

Malyck wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

runningtings wrote: »

i like it, am going to try this out myself, impressive stats.

It's a very fun set up as well if you want to know the CP set up as well just let me know

I would be interested in your CP setup, could you please post it if you get a chance?