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Clockwork Increased gold tempers rumor circulating?
Mettaricana
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Several of my trading and social guilds are saying clockwork city is upping the gold tempers drop rates? Sounds a bit farfetched simce zos seems to be nerfing them every dlc. Is there any truth to this? If not put it to rest.
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Word on the street is rumor value is = or < n=m/M expelled in creation of said rumor .5
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Epona222✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Mettaricana wrote: »Several of my trading and social guilds are saying clockwork city is upping the gold tempers drop rates? Sounds a bit farfetched simce zos seems to be nerfing them every dlc. Is there any truth to this? If not put it to rest.
I haven't heard anything along those lines, are you sure this info is coming from the guild itself, and not just unscrupulous members trying to get you to drop your prices?GM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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✭✭✭There already going to kill the 300k weapon gold grind please don't mess with the mats as well0 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭1. They have never nerfed gold temper drop rates (they were always 5%)
2. Upping the drop rate would crash their prices even further (they're already cheap)2 -
Ashtaris✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I haven't heard anything along those lines, and furthermore, what would be the motivation to do so? There has been no announcement about gear levels increasing that would prompt a demand for new gear, so I just don't see it.0 -
The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭I haven't heard anything along those lines, and furthermore, what would be the motivation to do so? There has been no announcement about gear levels increasing that would prompt a demand for new gear, so I just don't see it.
Gear level has never been confirmed nor denied, it would be a welcome change for me, it's been a long time since we have been rocking cp160 gear. As a 9 trait crafter it would open up the market for me.0 -
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✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »1. They have never nerfed gold temper drop rates (they were always 5%)
2. Upping the drop rate would crash their prices even further (they're already cheap)
For me the gold tempers are super expensve. Everything depends on wich side of the wall you are.10 -
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✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »1. They have never nerfed gold temper drop rates (they were always 5%)
2. Upping the drop rate would crash their prices even further (they're already cheap)
Based on a lot of data, and I mean millions of each mat from several players, the drop rates are almost certainly not a flat 5% across all 4. Although if you have a reliable ZoS source for the 5% we'd be interested so we can stop collating data!
But based on what we have the rates are certainly between 4% and 6% across the 4 mats and appear to have remained pretty stable over the years.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Tavore1138 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »1. They have never nerfed gold temper drop rates (they were always 5%)
2. Upping the drop rate would crash their prices even further (they're already cheap)
Based on a lot of data, and I mean millions of each mat from several players, the drop rates are almost certainly not a flat 5% across all 4. Although if you have a reliable ZoS source for the 5% we'd be interested so we can stop collating data!
But based on what we have the rates are certainly between 4% and 6% across the 4 mats and appear to have remained pretty stable over the years.
5% is the average of 4-6%...
The odds roughly equate to 1 temper per stack (aka, 5%... or 4-6% if you prefer, it doesn't make a difference)Edited by MLGProPlayer on September 10, 2017 8:49AM0 -
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✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »Tavore1138 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »1. They have never nerfed gold temper drop rates (they were always 5%)
2. Upping the drop rate would crash their prices even further (they're already cheap)
Based on a lot of data, and I mean millions of each mat from several players, the drop rates are almost certainly not a flat 5% across all 4. Although if you have a reliable ZoS source for the 5% we'd be interested so we can stop collating data!
But based on what we have the rates are certainly between 4% and 6% across the 4 mats and appear to have remained pretty stable over the years.
5% is the average of 4-6%...
The odds roughly equate to 1 temper per stack (aka, 5%... or 4-6% if you prefer, it doesn't make a difference)
Lol, yeah I know the average of the 2 is that. I meant more, that for example, leather tends more towards the 4%, cloth and wood more towards 5% and metal a little higher at 5.5%. So yes 1 gold per stack is a decent rule of thumb.
I was just wondering if they'd ever come out and given an official number.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »1. They have never nerfed gold temper drop rates (they were always 5%)
2. Upping the drop rate would crash their prices even further (they're already cheap)
I mean if you call 9k per "cheap". They're only cheap if you're one of those who have millions rotting away in their Bank. To the average middle and lower class player, buying just a few if not a full 8 is costly.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭I'd prefer they reduce the ammount of gold tempers required to 6, rather than up the drop chance.
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✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »1. They have never nerfed gold temper drop rates (they were always 5%)
2. Upping the drop rate would crash their prices even further (they're already cheap)
I mean if you call 9k per "cheap". They're only cheap if you're one of those who have millions rotting away in their Bank. To the average middle and lower class player, buying just a few if not a full 8 is costly.
Im in this group been trying to become the rich group but that aside no one was discussing prices but 5 guilds and this topic has been going around all over the place id be ok with tempering alloys getting a drop buff since they needed for almost every weapon and heavy armor and we got one source ore while leather amd silk give us double chances via kills and harvesting. Rosin seems low drop given the 12k wood stacks i have0 -
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Interesting as prices on pc in 1000 gold equals the drop chances well.Tavore1138 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Tavore1138 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »1. They have never nerfed gold temper drop rates (they were always 5%)
2. Upping the drop rate would crash their prices even further (they're already cheap)
Based on a lot of data, and I mean millions of each mat from several players, the drop rates are almost certainly not a flat 5% across all 4. Although if you have a reliable ZoS source for the 5% we'd be interested so we can stop collating data!
But based on what we have the rates are certainly between 4% and 6% across the 4 mats and appear to have remained pretty stable over the years.
5% is the average of 4-6%...
The odds roughly equate to 1 temper per stack (aka, 5%... or 4-6% if you prefer, it doesn't make a difference)
Lol, yeah I know the average of the 2 is that. I meant more, that for example, leather tends more towards the 4%, cloth and wood more towards 5% and metal a little higher at 5.5%. So yes 1 gold per stack is a decent rule of thumb.
I was just wondering if they'd ever come out and given an official number.
My guess is that temper prices will rise as more players get bis gear and gold it. First you will have weapons, many run with out of set weapons.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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✭✭✭Man i wish 1 gold per stack was a rule.. refined 1200 rubedite not a single tempering got 12 honing stone and gems1 -
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✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »1. They have never nerfed gold temper drop rates (they were always 5%)
2. Upping the drop rate would crash their prices even further (they're already cheap)
I mean if you call 9k per "cheap". They're only cheap if you're one of those who have millions rotting away in their Bank. To the average middle and lower class player, buying just a few if not a full 8 is costly.
If on ps4 NA hit me up, I will show you how to make some gold. 9k is small change when you're making 100k+ a day...1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Rumors are just trash talk. Some people are just trolls and start such talk others believe it and perpetuate it. Unless Zos states it or it is in patch notes which have not been released it is worthless banter. Obviously we cannot test it since PTS is not even updated with it.1 -
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✭Mettaricana wrote: »Man i wish 1 gold per stack was a rule.. refined 1200 rubedite not a single tempering got 12 honing stone and gems
Thats some putrid RNG...0 -
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✭✭✭Mettaricana wrote: »Man i wish 1 gold per stack was a rule.. refined 1200 rubedite not a single tempering got 12 honing stone and gems
Thats some putrid RNG...
This is like since imperial city launch...
Back in before we got dlcs i had tons of temperings dreugh etc... now i can do the same writ 12 times on all my character not get a survey writ or temper refine 10000 ore in a week never see a temper... my hireling has had better drops than me0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »1. They have never nerfed gold temper drop rates (they were always 5%)
2. Upping the drop rate would crash their prices even further (they're already cheap)
@MLGProPlayer, I want to say they actually increased the gold temper drop rates back with 1.5 or 1.6. It went from, I think 2.5% to 5%.0 -
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✭✭✭Still recall getting more as a novice crafter than now as a master crafter.... i had 133 tempering when i transfered to ps4 dont think ive found 20 temperings since transfer its pathetic and all i get told is rng its like it shouldn't be possible to have thisbad of luck 24/7 bad traits no tempers no motifs nothing rng based ever drops for me0 -
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✭✭✭Mettaricana wrote: »Still recall getting more as a novice crafter than now as a master crafter.... i had 133 tempering when i transfered to ps4 dont think ive found 20 temperings since transfer its pathetic and all i get told is rng its like it shouldn't be possible to have thisbad of luck 24/7 bad traits no tempers no motifs nothing rng based ever drops for me
Same here with MW's as well my main craft has every single in game motif, all 9 traits, and still barely gets MW's at all and when she does its only 6-10 vouchers every single time.
Also yes I did notice a significant drop in daily writ legendaries as well I've gotten so many more before Morrowind came out doing writs I guess Morrowind did truely nerf themEdited by Cpt_Teemo on September 11, 2017 1:34AM1 -
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✭The_Protagonist wrote: »I haven't heard anything along those lines, and furthermore, what would be the motivation to do so? There has been no announcement about gear levels increasing that would prompt a demand for new gear, so I just don't see it.
Gear level has never been confirmed nor denied, it would be a welcome change for me, it's been a long time since we have been rocking cp160 gear. As a 9 trait crafter it would open up the market for me.
As someone who is a 9 trait crafter and someone who PVPs and PVEs, I could live without another Max Level increase ever again. You could already sink hours of your life into this game on a daily basis and still not have best in slot gear (thanks to the RNG Slot Machine approach to game design -and I don't just mean traits). There are dozens of sets, most of which are not crafted - resetting everyone's gear with a level increase would only force yet another gear grind on everyone and it would likely shrink the player base (again) which wouldn't be a good thing for ESO.
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chris25602✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »1. They have never nerfed gold temper drop rates (they were always 5%)
2. Upping the drop rate would crash their prices even further (they're already cheap)
@MLGProPlayer, I want to say they actually increased the gold temper drop rates back with 1.5 or 1.6. It went from, I think 2.5% to 5%.
not even a long time player but I agree with this line of the thread. I think people that have this problem just haven't figured out how to eso finance themselves.0
