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When you see a non-Templar/Warden as a healer in dungeon finder (non-vet)
vpy
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As the question states 
Edited by vpy on September 10, 2017 2:34AM When you see a non-Templar/Warden as a healer in dungeon finder (non-vet) 115 votes
Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healing
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Vote for kick
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I will vote for kick if someone dies (doesnt matter who is at fault)...The point being I will be extra cautious with non-templar/warden heals
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Kaktus✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingI've had a healer leave during a non-vet pug, so I just took over healing with my stamblade. Really wasn't that bad1
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PurpleDrank✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingTo be honest, I probably wouldn't even bother kicking if they weren't a decent healer for most of the normal dungeons.1
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MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Non-templar/warden healers can heal vet dungeons just fine too.
The only content you don't want them in is vet trials.Edited by MLGProPlayer on September 10, 2017 3:21AM4 -
AbysmalGhul✭✭✭✭✭
✭OtherI would be extra dramatic and fall off of high places on purpose to see if their healing would feather my fall.
If they fail, I would go Gordon Ramsey , Simon Cowell, Ape, or HAM on their healings and feelings.4 -
The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭OtherNon Vet can be almost be soloed even by average players. So let them come and level up. What's the harm man?2 -
laissezfaire✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingIf you are using grouping tool, you should probably have a heal/shield on your bar.2
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max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingSelf healing tank here! Otherwise I'm on my healer character.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingEven for most vet dungeons it is not relevant their class. If a group is struggling with staying alive it is not necessarily the healers fault. Often cases it is not.
What I liked about ESO from the start is we all have the first responsibility to avoid the damage. Most deaths are due to ourselves, not the healer or tank. Ofc I am not talking about a bad tank or us sitting at half health for 5 minutes because the healer has not tried to heal us.0 -
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✭OtherI fake que on my DPS as heal/tank/DPS if I'm doing non vet,
So can't really kick myself.Xbox one EU
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Tucker3711✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingI have a nightblade tank that doesn't use a shield... Hasn't made much a difference...
I also have a character that can tank/dps/heal... It is possible!
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SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭the non templar and warden healers usually cant heal well. all i saw them do is spam regeneration/mutagen and maybe a healing springs here and there. its fine for normal dungeons but when it comes to the hard vet dungeons, not enough healing is being sent so ppl die. i find it hilarious when i see mag dks or magblades trying to heal. sorcs are also meh too
would not put up with that in vet trials at all0 -
bmannb16_ESO✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingI level all my mag builds via restro staff in non vet dungeons, gets me skill points and DPS into the dungeon faster. As long as your healing, this shouldn't even be a question.AD Six feet under (Sorc, Templar, Dragon Knight)
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Khenarthi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingI've ran with PUGs in vet dungeons where the healer was a NB, DK, or Sorc, and everything went fine.
It's the skill of the player behind the character that matters - not the class of their character. The class only influences some of the skills and passives that can be used.PC-EU2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingWhat kind of thread is this? Kick because wrong class? Ignorant, arrogant and childish behaviour.
Every class can make a good / great healer.Edited by Seraphayel on September 10, 2017 6:35AMPS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -6 -
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✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingWould not have mattered if it was Veteran either. Warden/Templar healers do not automatically make you a good healer, and yes its easier, as so many will probably say after, but they don't automatically qualify you as a good healer. Done plenty of vet dungeons with Sorcs or Nightblade healers, even done Trials with them, vet trials. People that would vote to kick in this scenario are really bad damage dealers or tanks, like really really really bad.7 -
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✭I took my level 32 magicka warden (healer) wearing all training gear into BC1 normal to get Undaunted started, decided to see what I could do and I killed the first keeper boss without a death. I quit after that because not wearing good gear means bad dps so it would take forever.
No reason whatsoever to kick a healer from a non vet dungeon, since you really don't even need a healer to begin with.2 -
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✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingMLGProPlayer wrote: »Non-templar/warden healers can heal vet dungeons just fine too.
The only content you don't want them in is vet trials.
Some can. Many heal terribly and need to learn to DPS or play a tank.
Edited to add: I actually feel low grade annoyed when someone is all 'Ungh I can't DPS/myDPS sucks so I'll just heal.'Edited by Mureel on September 10, 2017 6:24AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingthe non templar and warden healers usually cant heal well. all i saw them do is spam regeneration/mutagen and maybe a healing springs here and there. its fine for normal dungeons but when it comes to the hard vet dungeons, not enough healing is being sent so ppl die. i find it hilarious when i see mag dks or magblades trying to heal. sorcs are also meh too
would not put up with that in vet trials at all
As for the Warden healer they have been clearing HM trials paired with a Templar. Not really an issue. Also, few of the top healers use mutagen or regen in vet trials. Healing springs, Combat Prayer and Energy Orb are the three most important heals in the game. Pre-Morrowind Energy Orb often topped heals received by many dps in vMoL HM.
Also, the OP is talking about dungeons via GF so trials is irrelevant. Any class can do great healing a 4 man dungeon. It is very irrelevant what class they are on when it is just a 4 man group. If the group is taking a lot of damage, in most dungeons, then they are doing something wrong - not the healer.Edited by idk on September 10, 2017 6:32AM4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingin normal dungeons 95% of the time you don't even need a healer except maybe in the dlc dungeons where it helps (falkreath hold is just annoying due to all the knock backs that can stun lock you)...and where you do, a potato can heal you2 -
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✭✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingSeraphayel wrote: »What kind of thread is this? Kick because wrong class? Ignorant, arrogant and childish behaviour.
Every class can make a good / great healer.
^^^^
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✭✭✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingEvery class can heal most or all of vet content
If you need to kick a healer because he is not the class you want him to be, youre the problem ， not him Edited by Morgul667 on September 10, 2017 7:10AM6 -
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✭✭I have a templar healer but prefer to run dungeon PUGs with my Sorc healer. Higher burst heal and better resources. Hell, before the changes in resource costs I could spam twilight matriarch all day long with huge burst heals. You could even predict when somebody was gonna face plant into an insta-death and prevent it.
So OP, I flat out reject even the premise of your poll.All my housing builds are available on YouTube
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✭OtherOnly scrubs try to kick a healer based on class.Legendary Archer of ValenwoodBosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Templar's are evil..2 -
MinarasLaure✭✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingI don't care.
Even in vet dungeons.
One of the best healer I've ever ran with was a sorc.
Don't get me wrong, zero buffs from him, but his dps was crazy and all we really needed was the matriarch2 -
GiuEliN0✭✭✭Otherreally, i don't have any problem with a non-templar healer, vet or not vet.Beta-tester January 2014
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Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Non- Vet right...?...so who cares.. as long as he/she does not suck at healingI can carry literally any team through a Normal dungeon. I can complete all of them solo as well assuming a certain mechanic doesn't prohibit it.
Why would you kick someone from a Normal dungeon when they do nothing morally wrong?
The only person I would kick (and I have done this) is someone who queues for the wrong position purposely to jump ahead in group finder, such as a DPS queuing as a Tank, and they also show attitude toward the rest of the group. I can't stand people who do that. It takes a lot to get kicked from a Normal Dungeon.Edited by Vaoh on September 10, 2017 7:49AM4 -
CyborgPlatypus✭✭✭OtherI'm usually the healer. But I sometimes kick tanks if they aren't tanks and they run through content so the rest of the party gets killed by adds0
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eso_nya✭✭✭✭✭
✭OtherGroupfinder implies that u have a very high chance that 3/3 other group members r bad and/or unexperienced players.
U r better of with a spec that can carry whatever u get.0
