Nice work @dpencil1 lots of people been asking that.

This is probably a bug.

If you try the opposite Infused on front bar, non infused on back bar your the result will be different.

If your weapon proc is first triggered by an AEO skill, like Elemental blockade.You weapon proc will use Thaumaturge as modifier to increase damage, and refresh at that damage during the fight.

If your weapon proc is first triggered by an Direct damage attack, Your weapon proc will use Master-at-Arms to modify the damage, and will refresh at that damage.

Same goes for your example.
If your first weapon proc hit is triggered by a infused weapon, it will continue to refresh at that damage during the fight. So if your weapon damage is triggered by an infused weapon, with elemental blockade on back bar. When you switch to your front bar, your frontbar proc is still modified by Thaumaturge, and infused...

So this is probably a bug and should be fixed.

@tunepunk
No. I think you misunderstand. Basically, if you have Wall of Elements on your vMA staff bar, when you cast Wall of Elements you also cast Crushing Wall. This is visible in cooldown trackers like Srendarr. So you will either have a more or less powerful Crushing Wall depending on Infused or non-Infused vMA. It's not a bug. If it didn't operate like this before HotR, THAT was a bug.

Another way to think of it would be like how single target dots continue to use the same stats as the bar they were cast on. The Crushing Wall dot is "cast" onto Wall of Elements. It's power is then independent of what bar you are on, just like a single target dot.

@dpencil1

I think you didn't really get what i mean? If you're using a shock enchant on your front, it will also get infused modifier after you switch back. And the shock enchant on front bar will also use thaumaturge as a modifier.

So basically:

If your first hit from back bar is from an infused weapon. (any enchant) your front bar enchant will also be refreshed using infused bonus.

So infused vMA backbar / infused front bar with shock enchant is the highest DPS?

@Asardes
Infused on vMA is the only "always on" trait, which is what makes it so powerful.
Infused Shock enchant is good for more Concussed uptime.

So in a lot of cases they are both quite powerful, but not nearly as far ahead as Sharp used to be compared to everything else. There are still lots of other good situational choices.

@s7732425ub17_ESO
Yes, exactly. Appearantly, there used to be a bug where it did not act the correct way. So I'm just confirming that it is working as intended. This was specifically in response to Gilliamtherogue, as he mentioned in his latest build video that while he thought this was fixed, he was not able to test it himself since he doesn't have an Infused vMA staff. He also said no one had posted confirmation on the forums yet. So...that's where I come in.

dpencil1 wrote: »

Data recorded on a static build. No other variables changed.

vMA Precise non-crit:

Backbar, NO Wall: 2062
Backbar, Wall: 3894
3894 - 2062 = 1832

Frontbar, NO Wall: 2202
Frontbar, Wall: 4035
4035 - 2202 = 1833

vMA Infused non-crit:

Backbar, NO Wall: 2097
Backbar, Wall: 4481
4481 - 2097 = 2384

Frontbar, NO Wall: 2202
Frontbar, Wall: 4586
4586 - 2202 = 2384

2384 - 1833 = 551 more damage from lightning staff heavy attack ticks

This confirms that the Infused enchant effect does carry over to the front bar.
@Gilliamtherogue

Ok I want to give some extra insight.

1. The enchant does carry over. I tested it as well.

2. If you use poisons someone told me that the 189 spell damage is removed from damage calculations , and only stays in your spell power stats as a display bug. This is not true! If you have a poison you still retain the 189 spell damage from the maelstrom staff only if the poison is on cooldown, so most of the time you have the extra spell damage.

Still confused, for my pet Sorc in Vma, Maelstrom infused staff is best but only if its a lighting staff? I have only a Maelstrom infused Fire staff, shall i use that instead of a set lighting staff?

And on front bar Infused or sharpened set piece staff?

Thanks.

@dpencil1, can you do a similar test that examines whether vMA staff enchantments are affected by torugs pact now? @ZoS_GinaBruno stated they are investigating this last month before HotR dropped, but I haven't seen anything in the patch notes...

dpencil1 wrote: »

@Masel92
Torugs Pact has NO EFFECT on the vMA enchant. Tested with the same methodology, damage remained unchanged when swapping out an identical armor piece from another set (negating the 5th piece bonus only).

Shame... I tested it a while back and am on vacation right now, thanks for confirming that it is still bugged.

tunepunk wrote: »

This is probably a bug.

If you try the opposite Infused on front bar, non infused on back bar your the result will be different.

If your weapon proc is first triggered by an AEO skill, like Elemental blockade.You weapon proc will use Thaumaturge as modifier to increase damage, and refresh at that damage during the fight.

If your weapon proc is first triggered by an Direct damage attack, Your weapon proc will use Master-at-Arms to modify the damage, and will refresh at that damage.

Same goes for your example.
If your first weapon proc hit is triggered by a infused weapon, it will continue to refresh at that damage during the fight. So if your weapon damage is triggered by an infused weapon, with elemental blockade on back bar. When you switch to your front bar, your frontbar proc is still modified by Thaumaturge, and infused...

So this is probably a bug and should be fixed.

No? Traits have always gone by cast bar, not current. Unless i am misunderstanding?