Vma you can officialy rot in hell now

Ihatenightblades · September 2017

The last week i been farming a maelsrom bow because its the LAST maelstrom pc i needed.

I got every other pc i need
Dagger axe flame staff lightening staff and now i got the bow

BUT i must say vma is the most boring thing to do in this game. For me its a cake walk up until poison round. I wipe 5-6 times in poison round then the ONLY difficult part is the last stage.

No not because i dont got dps not because i dont know mechanics not because i didnt apply my shields not because a glitch no.

This stage is the most broken challenge in this game.

One of the problems is the daedroth. He does RIDICULOUS amount of damage and if you arent on a mag sorc shield stacking like i was GOOD LUCK.

Not only is the daedroth strong but he moves faster than anything iv seen in this game. Literally runs at you breathing fire 40 mph.

Anyways you can shield stack and interupt
Boss mechanic where he lifts staff and shoots skulls at you. Just gotta make sure to kill daedroth ASAP

The problem is once boss gets to 70 thats where it gets annoying any broken.

Once you reached time limit in portal he will knock you back down. You cant even avoid the knockback. And when you get knocked back YOU CANT BREAK FREE FFS and on top of that the daedroth randomly will be exactly where you fell and you cant break free so you have to sit there and die.. because you cant take the daedroth damage.

Sometimes the daedroth comes in portal i evej tried killing him everytime before i went up and he would still spawn on me when i fell !!

That isnt skill @zos thats you designing a broken stage and havint 0 competence to fox it.

Why should anybody attempt to get flawless conqueror if stupid mechanics like this exist?? Step it up zos for the sake of new players who want maelstrom weapons.

Anyways i kinda wanted to farm for a 2h nirn weapon but im not even gonna bother with that garbage.

That is all.

lauykanson · September 2017

when u are up the roof u need to hide behind shields to avoid the knockdown....roll dodge the skull attack as well..however u need to have enough dps to kill all 3 crystals before the shields move too fast. Sorry but its a L2P issue. That being said I don't appreciate the disgusting RNG in this place, be it combat or loot

Alpheu5 · September 2017

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

Not only is the daedroth strong but he moves faster than anything iv seen in this game. Literally runs at you breathing fire 40 mph.

Try kiting 4 OHKO-phase flesh atronachs while fighting Ibomez in vICP if you want to see fast NPCs that can destroy you.

sevomd69 · September 2017

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

Not only is the daedroth strong but he moves faster than anything iv seen in this game. Literally runs at you breathing fire 40 mph.

Try kiting 4 OHKO-phase flesh atronachs while fighting Ibomez in vICP if you want to see fast NPCs that can destroy you.

I despise that round... the main reason I hate doing vICP... so my magplar suffers in silence waiting for his purple Scathing neck...

Reedx · September 2017

Never done it before, what lvl (cp) do you guys usally go for it ?

Can you finish it at cp 160 with good gear or do you need to wait to cp 600?

Reedx · September 2017

And what is better

High dps or high sustain ?

Lexxypwns · September 2017

I think, If you can't destroy the crystals fast enough then you jump down on your own, melt the crematorium guard and clanfear then go back up.

Avran_Sylt · September 2017

What I generally do (since my dps isn't the highest, and I just casually do vMA), is top off my resources after I kill one crystal by HA the others, buff up, jump down, immobilize the clannfear, then block+heal through the crematorial flames before killing the guard. Honestly the only thing that kills me is those crystals popping up when I hit a lag spike.

lauykanson · September 2017

Skyper wrote: »

And what is better

High dps or high sustain ?

100% high DPS, everything in vma has low health but high damage, so they best way is to kill them ASAP rather than out-sustaining them

kojou · September 2017

I agree 100%...VMA is a miserable mess of content and I really hate the crematorium guards as well.

If I did it more I would be better at it, finish faster, etc, but I just can't stand it. It takes too long. They should at least cut it down to 3 rounds per stage... With the sustain changes it takes longer to do them now, so I am even less likely to put up with it.

I need the bow as well, but Al sums up my feelings about VMA pretty well:

"Weird Al" Yankovic - One More Minute

pdebie64b16_ESO · September 2017

Stage 7 boss is a pain, still didnt find a good strategy to beat it, Crematorial guards on the stage 9 boss round are also a pain because the have long range, high dps and are fast, what helps is fight those guards near the middle of the arena if you jump down to reset the second floor because the lava rng drops more on the outside in the arena.

I found out dps is key, kill before being killed so currently working on a higher dps build for my Sorc.

Vapirko · September 2017

lauykanson wrote: »

Skyper wrote: »

And what is better

High dps or high sustain ?

100% high DPS, everything in vma has low health but high damage, so they best way is to kill them ASAP rather than out-sustaining them

I agree with this partially. But this kind of dps is really only possible with BiS gear and at least gold weapons. If you're lacking these things it's important to be able to sustain in place of a little dps. For example running hundings and spriggans with blue jewelry on my stam sorc. Two cost reduction glyphs went a loooong way and didn't impact my dps much.

Ihatenightblades · September 2017

lauykanson wrote: »

when u are up the roof u need to hide behind shields to avoid the knockdown....roll dodge the skull attack as well..however u need to have enough dps to kill all 3 crystals before the shields move too fast. Sorry but its a L2P issue. That being said I don't appreciate the disgusting RNG in this place, be it combat or loot

Unfortunately you didnt read where my problem was even if you apply shield before he knocks

ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »

I agree 100%...VMA is a miserable mess of content and I really hate the crematorium guards as well.

If I did it more I would be better at it, finish faster, etc, but I just can't stand it. It takes too long. They should at least cut it down to 3 rounds per stage... With the sustain changes it takes longer to do them now, so I am even less likely to put up with it.

I need the bow as well, but Al sums up my feelings about VMA pretty well:

"Weird Al" Yankovic - One More Minute

I feel you and its sad the vma bow is literally bis by far for pve. And by

Vapirko wrote: »

lauykanson wrote: »

Skyper wrote: »

And what is better

High dps or high sustain ?

100% high DPS, everything in vma has low health but high damage, so they best way is to kill them ASAP rather than out-sustaining them

I agree with this partially. But this kind of dps is really only possible with BiS gear and at least gold weapons. If you're lacking these things it's important to be able to sustain in place of a little dps. For example running hundings and spriggans with blue jewelry on my stam sorc. Two cost reduction glyphs went a loooong way and didn't impact my dps much.

2 reduce cost glyphs costed you a little over 300 weapon dmg which is DEFINITELY impact dps BUT if you are running low on stam then i guess its better for you.

Hundings and spriggan should def do the job in vma i know people who did it with 5 hundings 3 agility 2 engine guardian and 2 random daggers lol.

SilverPaws · September 2017

I remember when he wanted to knock me down, i don't fell and was still up so i finished destroying 3 crystals and i didn't get knocked down even once lol my luckiest round on my squishy stam dk.

SirDopey · September 2017

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

The last week i been farming a maelsrom bow because its the LAST maelstrom pc i needed.

I got every other pc i need
Dagger axe flame staff lightening staff and now i got the bow

BUT i must say vma is the most boring thing to do in this game. For me its a cake walk up until poison round. I wipe 5-6 times in poison round then the ONLY difficult part is the last stage.

No not because i dont got dps not because i dont know mechanics not because i didnt apply my shields not because a glitch no.

This stage is the most broken challenge in this game.

One of the problems is the daedroth. He does RIDICULOUS amount of damage and if you arent on a mag sorc shield stacking like i was GOOD LUCK.

Not only is the daedroth strong but he moves faster than anything iv seen in this game. Literally runs at you breathing fire 40 mph.

Anyways you can shield stack and interupt
Boss mechanic where he lifts staff and shoots skulls at you. Just gotta make sure to kill daedroth ASAP

The problem is once boss gets to 70 thats where it gets annoying any broken.

Once you reached time limit in portal he will knock you back down. You cant even avoid the knockback. And when you get knocked back YOU CANT BREAK FREE FFS and on top of that the daedroth randomly will be exactly where you fell and you cant break free so you have to sit there and die.. because you cant take the daedroth damage.

Sometimes the daedroth comes in portal i evej tried killing him everytime before i went up and he would still spawn on me when i fell !!

That isnt skill @zos thats you designing a broken stage and havint 0 competence to fox it.

Why should anybody attempt to get flawless conqueror if stupid mechanics like this exist?? Step it up zos for the sake of new players who want maelstrom weapons.

Anyways i kinda wanted to farm for a 2h nirn weapon but im not even gonna bother with that garbage.

That is all.

Try equipping Netch's touch, it'll really help you out in there

WhiteMage · September 2017

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc

Danksta · September 2017

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

lauykanson wrote: »

when u are up the roof u need to hide behind shields to avoid the knockdown....roll dodge the skull attack as well..however u need to have enough dps to kill all 3 crystals before the shields move too fast. Sorry but its a L2P issue. That being said I don't appreciate the disgusting RNG in this place, be it combat or loot

Unfortunately you didnt read where my problem was even if you apply shield before he knocks

ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »

I agree 100%...VMA is a miserable mess of content and I really hate the crematorium guards as well.

If I did it more I would be better at it, finish faster, etc, but I just can't stand it. It takes too long. They should at least cut it down to 3 rounds per stage... With the sustain changes it takes longer to do them now, so I am even less likely to put up with it.

I need the bow as well, but Al sums up my feelings about VMA pretty well:

"Weird Al" Yankovic - One More Minute

I feel you and its sad the vma bow is literally bis by far for pve. And by

Vapirko wrote: »

lauykanson wrote: »

Skyper wrote: »

And what is better

High dps or high sustain ?

100% high DPS, everything in vma has low health but high damage, so they best way is to kill them ASAP rather than out-sustaining them

I agree with this partially. But this kind of dps is really only possible with BiS gear and at least gold weapons. If you're lacking these things it's important to be able to sustain in place of a little dps. For example running hundings and spriggans with blue jewelry on my stam sorc. Two cost reduction glyphs went a loooong way and didn't impact my dps much.

2 reduce cost glyphs costed you a little over 300 weapon dmg which is DEFINITELY impact dps BUT if you are running low on stam then i guess its better for you.

Hundings and spriggan should def do the job in vma i know people who did it with 5 hundings 3 agility 2 engine guardian and 2 random daggers lol.

I thought you said you knew the mechanics. If you did you would know to hide behind the floating, rotating stone wall that he summons before he does his knockback.

Also, for the deadroths, just kill them before they do their fire breath. If that means saving ultimates for them then do it.

Drummerx04 · September 2017

Danksta wrote: »

I thought you said you knew the mechanics. If you did you would know to hide behind the floating, rotating stone wall that he summons before he does his knockback.

Also, for the deadroths, just kill them before they do their fire breath. If that means saving ultimates for them then do it.

This. planning and executing the dps is clearly more your issue. There is a floating green mystic rock wall that spawns on the second level for you to hide behind. You should be able to dps down one crystal, hide behind this thing, and then dps the other two crystals before getting knocked down.

Vapirko wrote: »

lauykanson wrote: »

Skyper wrote: »

And what is better

High dps or high sustain ?

100% high DPS, everything in vma has low health but high damage, so they best way is to kill them ASAP rather than out-sustaining them

I agree with this partially. But this kind of dps is really only possible with BiS gear and at least gold weapons. If you're lacking these things it's important to be able to sustain in place of a little dps. For example running hundings and spriggans with blue jewelry on my stam sorc. Two cost reduction glyphs went a loooong way and didn't impact my dps much.

You don't really need ultra super BiS gear to have good dps. I just cleared vMA with a 578k score running a no pet magsorc in julianos, 2 one piece mag monster sets, and moondancer jewelry + staff (which could have easily been replaced by willpower and setless staff to minimal if even noticeable difference in damage).