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Would Dwemer be more Stamina or Magicka based?

Waffennacht
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I was thinking about this.

Elves seem, in general, to have a natural affinity towards magic.

However, in every telling about Dwemer I have read, the stories are about physical exploits.

Like a Dwemer setting up a bunch of mundane objects in a bar and making a Nord, chimer, etc upset and kills them all with a quick move.

Or the Dwemer that dressed up like a Centurian and fought so well they thought he was a construct.

Both are mostly physical based and not magicka.

The idea they build machines and constructions seem to be a more physical nature (same with being underground)

But they also had like telepathy.

What's your opinion?
Edited by Waffennacht on August 29, 2017 5:51AM
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  • starkerealm
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    Stamina, with a focus in enchanting, and mysticism.
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  • Volsera
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    I like to see them as dwarves as in LOTR, small hairy sturdy people with an affinity towards constructing animunculi and huge underground cities. Needless to say that I think they will be definitely stamina based.
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  • Shardan4968
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    Magicka, because they were smart enough to create automatrons and they had best enchanters in all of Tamriel.
    Edited by Shardan4968 on August 29, 2017 7:56AM
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  • starkerealm
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    Volsera wrote: »
    I like to see them as dwarves as in LOTR, small hairy sturdy people with an affinity towards constructing animunculi and huge underground cities. Needless to say that I think they will be definitely stamina based.

    Yeah, that's actually incorrect, @Volsera. TES's dwemer are another race of elves. With a roughly similar height and appearance to High Elves. Dwemer actually means, "deep folk," or "deep ones," meaning "those weirdos digging out a new condo under their mom's basement."

    The, "dwarves," moniker comes from Giants, who the Dwemer traded with.

    But, no, the Dwemer were just another race of elves. Atheist elves. (Meaning they didn't believe the gods were inherently sacred, not that the Aedra and Daedra didn't exist.) But, still just elves.
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  • Volsera
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    I know you're right @starkerealm but I don't know, it's just the image stuck in my head that I can't get out hehe. :sweat_smile:

    Off-topic: a race of dwarves in ESO would be hella cool imo.
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  • DocFrost72
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    @starkerealm There were apatheist, they could care less about the gods. At least, that's how I read it :)

    And to answer your question OP, they would likely be a mix like the dunmer. I could see their passives as:

    Deep Folk: increase experience gained with destruction staves and heavy armor by 10%. When using a soul gem, you have a 5% chance to save the gem and return one empty soul gem to your inventory.

    Sturdy: increases max stamina and health by 2/4/6%

    Thinkers: increase max magicka by 4/7/10% and magicka regen by 2/4/6%.

    Tinkerers: Increases damage dealt with pets and quest companions by 5%.
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  • Waffennacht
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    Thanks! Every once in a while I think about making a "Dwemer" character (just all Dwemer styled stuff and hide the face) but I wasn't sure which race would be most efficient/accurate.

    Seems to me Dunmer and or Bosmer may be good choices (especially I think for height?)

    I wouldn't want to use a race of man
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  • DocFrost72
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    Dunmer for racials, altmer for looks. Altmer with the patriarch beard is almost perfect, pro tip :)
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    Glacius Cromeum: Imperial Stamina Templar 2H DPS
    Nivek the Shadow: Imperial Stamina Nightblade DPS
    Syldraaendril Nightwood: Bosmer Stamina Warden DPS
    Koht: Imperial (dremora) Dragonknight Tank
    Hailie Silverthorn: Bosmer Stamina Templar DPS
    Araenandriah Lyrovehkem: Bosmer Stamina Nightblade DPS
    Titus Morric Silverthorn: Imperial Stamina Dragonknight DPS
    Kartendor: Altmer Sorcerer Tank
    Sephy-Lemme-Smash: Argonian Warden Tank
    Aeris Silverthorn: Breton Templar Healer
    Ji'Vashi: Khajiit Stamina Nightblade 2H DPS
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  • ChibchanLawyer
    It would make sense to the lore if they were stamina-based. Orcs (Orsimer) are a subspecies of elves, so it's not unheard of that an elven race be oriented towards stamina rather tan magicka. And Dwemer could try to make up for their lesser affinity to magic with their constructs, any dwarven mechanism could do better than al Altmer mage, but it's the machines they built, not the dwemer themselves, who perform the feats. Affinity notwithstanding, there were, of course, dwarven mages and whatnot, just like there are altmer Warriors or Orcish thieves.

    As for the Role-Based passives from ESO, I'd agree with the setup proposed by @DocFrost72 .
  • starkerealm
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    It would make sense to the lore if they were stamina-based. Orcs (Orsimer) are a subspecies of elves, so it's not unheard of that an elven race be oriented towards stamina rather tan magicka.

    Also, just, you know, thinking: Bosmer.
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  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    I'd be inclined to think they were more Magicka-oriented, because they built constructs to do most of their physical work.

    We are, however, ignoring the possibility that they might have been HP-based. ;)
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  • starkerealm
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    I'd be inclined to think they were more Magicka-oriented, because they built constructs to do most of their physical work.

    We are, however, ignoring the possibility that they might have been HP-based. ;)

    We're also assuming that they used the tri-stat system instead of the eight attributes. :p
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