Would Dwemer be more Stamina or Magicka based?

Waffennacht · August 2017

I was thinking about this.

Elves seem, in general, to have a natural affinity towards magic.

However, in every telling about Dwemer I have read, the stories are about physical exploits.

Like a Dwemer setting up a bunch of mundane objects in a bar and making a Nord, chimer, etc upset and kills them all with a quick move.

Or the Dwemer that dressed up like a Centurian and fought so well they thought he was a construct.

Both are mostly physical based and not magicka.

The idea they build machines and constructions seem to be a more physical nature (same with being underground)

But they also had like telepathy.

What's your opinion?

starkerealm · August 2017

Stamina, with a focus in enchanting, and mysticism.

Volsera · August 2017

I like to see them as dwarves as in LOTR, small hairy sturdy people with an affinity towards constructing animunculi and huge underground cities. Needless to say that I think they will be definitely stamina based.

Shardan4968 · August 2017

Magicka, because they were smart enough to create automatrons and they had best enchanters in all of Tamriel.

starkerealm · August 2017

Volsera wrote: »

I like to see them as dwarves as in LOTR, small hairy sturdy people with an affinity towards constructing animunculi and huge underground cities. Needless to say that I think they will be definitely stamina based.

Yeah, that's actually incorrect, @Volsera. TES's dwemer are another race of elves. With a roughly similar height and appearance to High Elves. Dwemer actually means, "deep folk," or "deep ones," meaning "those weirdos digging out a new condo under their mom's basement."

The, "dwarves," moniker comes from Giants, who the Dwemer traded with.

But, no, the Dwemer were just another race of elves. Atheist elves. (Meaning they didn't believe the gods were inherently sacred, not that the Aedra and Daedra didn't exist.) But, still just elves.

Volsera · August 2017

I know you're right @starkerealm but I don't know, it's just the image stuck in my head that I can't get out hehe.

Off-topic: a race of dwarves in ESO would be hella cool imo.

DocFrost72 · August 2017

@starkerealm There were apatheist, they could care less about the gods. At least, that's how I read it

And to answer your question OP, they would likely be a mix like the dunmer. I could see their passives as:

Deep Folk: increase experience gained with destruction staves and heavy armor by 10%. When using a soul gem, you have a 5% chance to save the gem and return one empty soul gem to your inventory.

Sturdy: increases max stamina and health by 2/4/6%

Thinkers: increase max magicka by 4/7/10% and magicka regen by 2/4/6%.

Tinkerers: Increases damage dealt with pets and quest companions by 5%.

Waffennacht · August 2017

Thanks! Every once in a while I think about making a "Dwemer" character (just all Dwemer styled stuff and hide the face) but I wasn't sure which race would be most efficient/accurate.

Seems to me Dunmer and or Bosmer may be good choices (especially I think for height?)

I wouldn't want to use a race of man

DocFrost72 · August 2017

Dunmer for racials, altmer for looks. Altmer with the patriarch beard is almost perfect, pro tip

ChibchanLawyer · August 2017

It would make sense to the lore if they were stamina-based. Orcs (Orsimer) are a subspecies of elves, so it's not unheard of that an elven race be oriented towards stamina rather tan magicka. And Dwemer could try to make up for their lesser affinity to magic with their constructs, any dwarven mechanism could do better than al Altmer mage, but it's the machines they built, not the dwemer themselves, who perform the feats. Affinity notwithstanding, there were, of course, dwarven mages and whatnot, just like there are altmer Warriors or Orcish thieves.

As for the Role-Based passives from ESO, I'd agree with the setup proposed by @DocFrost72 .

starkerealm · August 2017

ChibchanLawyer wrote: »

It would make sense to the lore if they were stamina-based. Orcs (Orsimer) are a subspecies of elves, so it's not unheard of that an elven race be oriented towards stamina rather tan magicka.

Also, just, you know, thinking: Bosmer.

WhiteCoatSyndrome · August 2017

I'd be inclined to think they were more Magicka-oriented, because they built constructs to do most of their physical work.

We are, however, ignoring the possibility that they might have been HP-based.

starkerealm · August 2017

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

I'd be inclined to think they were more Magicka-oriented, because they built constructs to do most of their physical work.

We are, however, ignoring the possibility that they might have been HP-based.

We're also assuming that they used the tri-stat system instead of the eight attributes.